Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

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hefdaddy42

Quote from: Stadler on June 04, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
Here's a novel idea:  let them put out the album they want to put out.
Now you're just being irrational.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

bosk1

Quote from: emtee on June 04, 2015, 11:05:57 AMWhat do you think this next album means to DT?
I would assume:
Quote from: emtee on June 04, 2015, 11:05:57 AM-Nothing more than any other album in their past. Everything is fine. Nothing to prove. Just try to make music they are happy with.
I don't know that there is good reason to assume otherwise.

Lucien

Quote from: emtee on June 04, 2015, 11:05:57 AM
I thought about asking this question in a dedicated thread but instead will ask here.

What do you think this next album means to DT?

-Nothing more than any other album in their past. Everything is fine. Nothing to prove. Just try to make music they are happy with.
-Needs to make a statement. Attendance trending slightly down. Album sales trending slightly down.
-Want to make a significant artistic statement late in career. Nothing else is more important.

I want 3, probably 1 though

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 04, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: Stadler on June 04, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
Here's a novel idea:  let them put out the album they want to put out.
Now you're just being irrational.

Is it the album they want to put out, or the album they think they should put out?

cramx3

I honestly dont care what kind of album it is or what it means to them.  DT have a history or consistently releasing good music.  If they change things up, I expect it will still be good.  If they do things similar, it will still be good.  DT is one band that I have complete faith in that whatever they release, will be good music to my ears.  I want DT to release an album that they want to release.

wasteland

I think they might want to do something different, but not out of any external pressure. I believe they are extremely fine with the way their career is evolving in the second half of their life, so whatever change might come musically with DT13 will exclusively stem from artistic reasons only.

JediKnight1969

At this point I don't care if they release a Beach Boys tribute album called "Boogie-Boogie Jamboree". Just release something!

RaiseTheKnife

Quote from: CharlesPL on June 03, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
27th June will be the star of Metal Hammer Festival in Katowice "Spodek".You play something new?

JP : No I don't think so. This year marks the thirtieth anniversary of our existence and rather, we will present our older songs also those whose long or almost never played.


This is great news.  I love it when DT dusts off the older neglected material and breathes new life into those tunes.  I hope the U.S. will get to see some of these obscure tracks in due course. 

ResultsMayVary

For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.

RaiseTheKnife

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.

Doubt they'd squeeze Octavarium into a festival set, but maybe on a DT headlining tour.  Medleyvarium perhaps?

ResultsMayVary

Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on June 04, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.

Doubt they'd squeeze Octavarium into a festival set, but maybe on a DT headlining tour.  Medleyvarium perhaps?
I doubt it. JP always said he doesn't like medleys all that much. And Octavarium could totally be possible for a festival headlining set, provided they don't play any other 15+ minute tunes in the set. The typical DT festival headliner is something near 80-ish minutes, right?

Songs that stick out to me initially as "long or almost never played" are songs like Octavarium, The Mind Beside Itself suite songs, Disappear, The Great Debate, Repentance, New Millennium, etc. That's without mentioning b-sides and cleaning out the closet songs. Raise The Knife is another that they should play occasionally, because it is just so good.

Voices

I hope JP was referring to A Change Of Seasons and The Glass Prison...specially the first one.

But again, I am pretty sure they'll be playing Blind Faith. Mark my words  :metal 

RaiseTheKnife

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on June 04, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.

Doubt they'd squeeze Octavarium into a festival set, but maybe on a DT headlining tour.  Medleyvarium perhaps?
I doubt it. JP always said he doesn't like medleys all that much. And Octavarium could totally be possible for a festival headlining set, provided they don't play any other 15+ minute tunes in the set. The typical DT festival headliner is something near 80-ish minutes, right?

Songs that stick out to me initially as "long or almost never played" are songs like Octavarium, The Mind Beside Itself suite songs, Disappear, The Great Debate, Repentance, New Millennium, etc. That's without mentioning b-sides and cleaning out the closet songs. Raise The Knife is another that they should play occasionally, because it is just so good.

I'm thinking Wither, Disappear, Anna Lee and Only a Matter of Time.


ResultsMayVary


bosk1

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
Explain.

Well, see, when you take one of those out of the rack, fret notes with your left hand, and simultaneously strike the strings with the right hand, while the instrument is plugged in, it makes cool sounds.

Hope that helps!  :D

?

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.
The translation is a little ambiguous, but I read it as "songs that haven't been played in a long time, if ever".

cramx3

Quote from: ? on June 04, 2015, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on June 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
For some reason, his quote about "long or almost never played" songs makes me think Octavarium might be making a comeback.
The translation is a little ambiguous, but I read it as "songs that haven't been played in a long time, if ever".

Yea thats what I thought too, although if they did mean long and not played, then my guess and hope is for A Change of Seasons.  While they could fit one of those songs into a headlining festival gig (Wacken they only get 75 minutes) I doubt they go with Octavarium just because the first 5 minutes are all JR and that is not the type of music to play in a festivals IMO, you'd want a rocker all the way through like ACoS, but that's just my opinion.

It could also mean say TGP which would be suitable and awesome.

JiM-Xtreme

Hmm... long or almost never played?

How about...

A Vision
Light Fuse and Get Away
Voices
You Not Me/You Or Me
Burning My Soul (original arrangement i.e. with Hell's Kitchen in the middle)
Anna Lee
Raise the Knife
Through Her Eyes
The Glass Prison/This Dying Soul (back-to-back i.e. like on the 20th Anniversary tour)
In The Name of God
The Answer Lies Within (has this ever actually been played live???)
Repentance
The Bigger Picture
Behind the Veil
Surrender to Reason

BlobVanDam

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on June 05, 2015, 04:51:53 AM
The Answer Lies Within (has this ever actually been played live???)

It was played a few times on the Octavarium tour (including Score), but not since.


As usual, I don't read too much into translated interviews.

cramx3

Voices has seen a lot of play time over the last bunch of years, I think I've seen it 3 times since 2007.

ariich


Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

SuperTaco

Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 04, 2015, 08:12:25 AM

Yeah...it was part of the drummer audition tapes. He said that he and JP had sat down and wrote songs together in the way they used to earlier in their career for ADTOE....and that he liked that format and hoped to keep doing it. Not sure if that's how they wrote DT but I do recall him saying that.

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 04, 2015, 09:22:18 AM

The music is still produced basically the same way (jamming together); the only difference is that now they wait to do most of their jamming/writing until they get into the studio.  So before, it was jam/write THEN studio; now it is jam/write IN studio (and has been, for the most part, since SFAM).

Thank you guys :) I was having the damnedest time trying to find that. It probably takes the band a lot less time to write an album than it used to. (Then again, we're seriously lacking news about this upcoming album.. I hope it means an even better album this time around :) )

rumborak

Any bets on how many pages for this thread before any actual news? Now that JP confirmed they won't play anything live, I'll bet on the round number 100.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on June 05, 2015, 04:51:53 AM
The Answer Lies Within (has this ever actually been played live???)
Unfortunately, yes.

Quote from: ariich on June 05, 2015, 05:44:22 AM
Never played?

RAW DOG!
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

RodrigoAltaf

I think 99% from the debut up to the latest has been played. The exceptions are: The Best of Times, Surrender to Reason, The Bigger Picture and Behind the Veil. If I was to bet, I think they'll play The Bigger Picture.

TAC

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 05, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
  If I was to bet, I think they'll play The Bigger Picture.
That'd be awesome. I hope you're right.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

goo-goo

Quote from: rumborak on June 05, 2015, 06:07:20 AM
Now that JP confirmed they won't play anything live, I'll bet on the round number 100.

So you are saying, JP will be playing air guitar?   ??? ;)

Zydar

Quote from: goo-goo on June 05, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: rumborak on June 05, 2015, 06:07:20 AM
Now that JP confirmed they won't play anything live, I'll bet on the round number 100.

So you are saying, JP will be playing air guitar?   ??? ;)

I guess they'll just be standing there on stage, doing nothing.

rumborak

Me prediction: JP's beard will be gone.

TheCountOfNYC

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 05, 2015, 06:12:08 AM
Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on June 05, 2015, 04:51:53 AM
The Answer Lies Within (has this ever actually been played live???)
Unfortunately, yes.

Quote from: ariich on June 05, 2015, 05:44:22 AM
Never played?

RAW DOG!
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

I think Raw Dog would actually work well live. It's a high energy song and those type of songs are usually well suited for a live setting.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2024, 10:37:36 AMIn Stadler's defense, he's a weird motherfucker

rumborak

I actually agree. I don't particularly like Enigma Machine as an album track, but live it's much more entertaining.

mike099

Quote from: rumborak on June 05, 2015, 06:07:20 AM
Any bets on how many pages for this thread before any actual news? Now that JP confirmed they won't play anything live, I'll bet on the round number 100.

Thread renamed - Dream Theater back in the Studio February 2016.

Octavarious

Quote from: goo-goo on June 05, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: rumborak on June 05, 2015, 06:07:20 AM
Now that JP confirmed they won't play anything live, I'll bet on the round number 100.

So you are saying, JP will be playing air guitar?   ??? ;)
:rollin
That would be the coolest thing ever, especially if he pretends to sing too...
Maybe the festival crowd is not the best choice for such test, but I would give it a try after 2:00 AM with everyone in the audience more than drunk or definitely sick.

Sycsa

Quote from: Octavarious on June 05, 2015, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: goo-goo on June 05, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
So you are saying, JP will be playing air guitar?   ??? ;)
:rollin
That would be the coolest thing ever, especially if he pretends to sing too...
Well, he already kinda does that.

TAC

Quote from: Sycsa on June 05, 2015, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Octavarious on June 05, 2015, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: goo-goo on June 05, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
So you are saying, JP will be playing air guitar?   ??? ;)
:rollin
That would be the coolest thing ever, especially if he pretends to sing too...
Well, he already kinda does that.
:lol
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.