Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

[SuperTaco]

HEY EVERYONE !! IT'S TIME FOR :

" What Would Dream Theater name their 13th album if it was a triple concept album ? "

Metropolis Part III : Scenes From A Trilogy

Or, in the style of the most recent pages in this thread:

Metropolis part WDADU: Re-recordings from a Memory

[Skeever]

Looks like I missed a lot of convo about rerecordings so I only one comment: Iced Earth. Perfect example of why you simply do not want to rerecord things just because you have a new lineup.

[Setlist Scotty]

Looks like I missed a lot of convo about rerecordings so I only one comment: Iced Earth. Perfect example of why you simply do not want to rerecord things just because you have a new lineup.

For those of us who don't follow Iced Earth at all, care to give us the Cliff-notes version of why they are an example of why it's best not to re-record tracks because of a new lineup?

[Kotowboy]

Can you imagine if Oasis re-formed without Noel and decided to re-record Definitely Maybe and Whats The Story Morning Glory with the new line up ?

I can't imagine those turning out very well.

[sneakyblueberry]

Can you imagine if Oasis re-formed without Noel and decided to re-record Definitely Maybe and Whats The Story Morning Glory with the new line up ?

I can't imagine those turning out very well.

Well you can't polish a turd, as they say.

[Kotowboy]

I've never tried. However i did used to polish my CDs back in the day and I swore it made them sound clearer

I didn't know about digital. I was coming from the cassette era where tapes fade over time.

[hefdaddy42]

Can you imagine if Oasis re-formed without Noel and decided to re-record Definitely Maybe and Whats The Story Morning Glory with the new line up ?

I can't imagine those turning out very well.

Well you can't polish a turd, as they say.

Another reason to leave the Majesty Demos in the past.

Having said that, obviously some people really like them.

My point isn't "Why would the people who like them want to see them re-recorded" but rather "Why would the band want to such a thing?"

[Viking of the Sagas]

I'm very excited. Just thinking what they've come up with. Hopefully something exciting. Like Dream Theater feat. Toehider.

[Madman Shepherd]

Looks like I missed a lot of convo about rerecordings so I only one comment: Iced Earth. Perfect example of why you simply do not want to rerecord things just because you have a new lineup.

For those of us who don't follow Iced Earth at all, care to give us the Cliff-notes version of why they are an example of why it's best not to re-record tracks because of a new lineup?

I for one think what Iced Earth did was the right way to rerecord.  They released a "greatest hits" of sorts and added some tracks with new drums and vocals.  The originals still exist and are readily accessible if you want to find them.  In fact, you would need to try harder to find the Days of Purgatory collection with the rerecorded songs. 

Iced Earth didn't do full rerecordings though.  They only wanted to fix the elements that they thought were poorly done the first time.  The vocals, which I think were fine the first time, were definitely more raw.  The original vocalist didn't have any formal training and had a more raspy tone with little melody.  They rerecorded it with Barlow that had an excellent range and skilled voice. 

[rumborak]

"Iced Earth wanted to redo the parts that were poorly done" ... so they did record the whole thing then?

[genome]

This has probably already been posted as the video is 3 weeks old, but sounds like a new riff right at the end of this interview with JP (10:35).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9JIdNXJ5Q

If it is, we're in for a heavy album...

[YtseJamittaja]

hmmm, why I think I have heard that riff also on some his other PR videos... I might be wrong though.

[SuperTaco]

This has probably already been posted as the video is 3 weeks old, but sounds like a new riff right at the end of this interview with JP (10:35).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9JIdNXJ5Q

If it is, we're in for a heavy album...

On a related note, DAYUM those are some juicy pinch harmonics.

[BlackInk]

That's a good riff, but that sound is really... Not what I would call good.

[GasparXR]

This has probably already been posted as the video is 3 weeks old, but sounds like a new riff right at the end of this interview with JP (10:35).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9JIdNXJ5Q

If it is, we're in for a heavy album...

I love that C tuning. I've been trying to learn some of DT's C-tuned songs lately (ITNOG, ANTR), and this gives me a little bit of hope that perhaps there's another long heavy epic coming. I wouldn't put too much stock into one riff, though It creates the opportunity to be let down.

On a related note, DAYUM those are some juicy pinch harmonics.

That's his seven-string in B actually, but you were very close! I do enjoy the C tuning though, especially at parts like the solos in ANTR, that tone is soo good!

[rumborak]

That's a good riff, but that sound is really... Not what I would call good.

Had the same reaction, totally. I wish he returned to his straightforward sound.

Totally random comment also, bummer he mispronounces piezo, given how he's been using it for the last 20 years or so.

[SuperTaco]

That's his seven-string in B actually, but you were very close! I do enjoy the C tuning though, especially at parts like the solos in ANTR, that tone is soo good!

I just realized that xD I had my guitar tuned to B and I forgot.. anywho... moving on xD

[BlobVanDam]

That's a good riff, but that sound is really... Not what I would call good.

Had the same reaction, totally. I wish he returned to his straightforward sound.

Totally random comment also, bummer he mispronounces piezo, given how he's been using it for the last 20 years or so.

Oh good, when I saw that I was wondering if I was mispronouncing it all this time, because I would expect that someone like JP would surely say it right.

[Kotowboy]

Especially since he's part Italian.

Every time I watch a guitar video and someone says " PIE - zoh " I squirm.

It's like " Noter Dame " or " N Rowt " or " Van Go "




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLTQv8RH1TE

[Onno]

Pronouncing Van Gogh as 'Van Go' makes me cringe everytime 

[Zydar]

Is it pronounced Van Goff?

[Kotowboy]

Is it pronounced Van Goff?

Apparently it's more gutteral than that like a clearing of the throat sound. Van Hocccchhhh . Like Klingon


Freedom Fries is the funniest one.

" You won't help us invade Iraq because you don't agree with our illegal war ? Well....wel'll call French Fries Freedom Fries from now on ! "

[Cyclopssss]

Yeah, the G is pronounced harsh. Goggggghhhh. Untill your throat bleeds...

[rumborak]

Especially since he's part Italian.

Well, it's a Greek word, but I know what you mean
That said, I doubt he actually speaks any Italian. Other than a few culturally-inherited phrases and words.

Like Klingon

Funnily enough, Klingon's favorite dish, Gagh, gets very close in pronunciation to the word. Replace the "a" with an "o" sound, and you're there.

[Octavarious]

Especially since he's part Italian.

Well, it's a Greek word, but I know what you mean
That said, I doubt he actually speaks any Italian. Other than a few culturally-inherited phrases and words.

I think you are right. But I think he understands more than what he is able to articulate. This was my impression when I met him last year during the meet & greet here in Rome.

[wasteland]

You tried some italian with him? You were brave, I was afraid of wasting the few seconds of chat we had after the last two shows in Italy babbling some nonsensical words in a language incomprehensible to him. Which is why I just babbled some nonsensical words in my best excuse for the English language.

[JayOctavarium]

[Octavarious]

You tried some italian with him? You were brave, I was afraid of wasting the few seconds of chat we had after the last two shows in Italy babbling some nonsensical words in a language incomprehensible to him. Which is why I just babbled some nonsensical words in my best excuse for the English language.

No, I talked in English with them, but other folks spoke in Italian to our 5 heroes (yes to JMX too but anyway his expression wouldn't change) and sometimes he gave me the impression to understand more than "ciao, grazie".

Anyway, it's 4 weeks now for their 1st show on the European Tour in Poland, and still not a word about the album, no rumors of any single release before the tour (I thought they were planning it but probably I was wrong), and... Where are they now? I cannot believe they're still in studio recording, they should be planning the 2015 setlist and presumibly starting rehearsals for the show...
I cannot see them improvising "well guys, what are we going to play tonight? Ideas?"
By the way, Wasteland, are you coming to Pistoia?

[CharlesPL]

1st Belarus now, im going on 4 DT shows on this summer, in polish magazine JP said that the album will be next year...

[Frank]

1st Belarus now, im going on 4 DT shows on this summer, in polish magazine JP said that the album will be next year...

Source?

[CharlesPL]

Latest issue

[VincentMDO]

Jordan said on his live seaboard class that he'll still be doing some touchs on his keyboard parts with the seaboard on DT's new album, at the studio. Which means the album is not finished yet. Which means we ain't gonna get the same schedule as the last two in terms of months. 

[BlackInk]

That only makes me feel better about things, makes it feel less lile a corporate product.

[ResultsMayVary]

Would love to hear something form a more credible source (no offense to a few words posted on a forum) about a release date. Would love to see something in 2015, which would be totally possible if they finished the album prior to their show obligations starting in July.

That only makes me feel better about things, makes it feel less lile a corporate product.

Since when has a Dream Theater been a corporate product? Since FII, at least.

[BlackInk]

Not saying the albums themselves feel like corporate products, just that the process has felt very machine-like for the past few years. If that means we get a new album every other year, then fine. But I'm all for a more organic schedule. Plus, this makes it feel like they're taking their time to craft something special. We'll have to wait and see if that's the case, but for what it's worth, 'album not until next year' gives me a good feeling.