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Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

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Kotowboy


JediKnight1969


Setlist Scotty

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P


rumborak


Bertielee

Quote from: rumborak on April 20, 2015, 06:23:52 AM
Isn't MM going on tour tomorrow?

Yep, UK's final tour apparently begins April 21st.

B.Lee

rumborak

Only somewhat related, but just found this sweet video of Marco Minnemann playing on the UK Reunion tour in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmVLp0PU93Y


erwinrafael

MM's update:

"I'm on a slight break from DT fun and played the 1st show with U.K. tonight in San Francisco. It was a great time; fun playing a small kit too. Hope to see people in Philadelphia, New York, then Osaka and Tokyo. It is a major honor for me to play the last UK shows ever."

I laughed when I read his comment about the kit.  :lol

countoftuscany42

Thank god for friends who work at venues, just scored free tickets to the UK gig in philly and just met Mangini on their way in!  :metal
Signed my dt12 vinyl and LALP book  :tup

SuperTaco

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on April 23, 2015, 02:42:52 PM
Thank god for friends who work at venues, just scored free tickets to the UK gig in philly and just met Mangini on their way in!  :metal
Signed my dt12 vinyl and LALP book  :tup

Congrats man :metal

That would be a highlight of my life if that ever happened to me.

OpenYourEyes311

Quote from: SuperTaco on April 23, 2015, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: countoftuscany42 on April 23, 2015, 02:42:52 PM
Thank god for friends who work at venues, just scored free tickets to the UK gig in philly and just met Mangini on their way in!  :metal
Signed my dt12 vinyl and LALP book  :tup

Congrats man :metal

That would be a highlight of my life if that ever happened to me.

That is awesome! A similar thing happened to me when I met Mangini at the Dedham, MA cinema when they showed Live at Luna Park. He was just there to watch the movie, but stayed afterwards to take pictures with the few fans that came out to the show. Very down to Earth, very nice and personable. Congrats on getting to meet him and siggies! ;D

goo-goo

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on April 23, 2015, 02:42:52 PM
Thank god for friends who work at venues, just scored free tickets to the UK gig in philly and just met Mangini on their way in!  :metal
Signed my dt12 vinyl and LALP book  :tup

No studio update?  :lol


dream416


erwinrafael

#1378
Here's Mangini doing great with UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMWpw_-pyGs

This has clearer drums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9E_7q0w5mk

There were some hits where I felt some bit of tentativeness or restraint in terms of fills, then I listened to the studio version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRkkJKf-hnA

MM was actually replicating the fills of Bill Bruford including the fills that sound restrained. MM the chameleon is again at work here. Even the drum kit sounds a bit retro. (He did play more Mangini-esque in the end. You can hear him following the instruments in the final movement, for example.).

It's a different approach from Virgil Donati, who, you could hear from this link, sounds very Donati-esque in his interpretation of the same song.

https://youtu.be/TlunvUSOaIs?t=1h8m11s

There's also a Minnemann version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na4aBPLxf_w

This is like watching the DT drummer auditions, I love it.  :rollin We can actually see the same differences in styles noted by DT when they assessed these drummers. Mangini is most faithful to the source, Donati is the most stylish, while Minnemann is the most...joyful? :p

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

devieira73

erwinrafael, thank you for the links! :tup

devieira73

#1381
sorry, double post!  :facepalm:
And yes, very cool post!

rumborak

Of the three drummers,  Minnemann (as usual) is my favorite version. Donati has a tendency to make drum fills these "artful bursts outside time", which sounds weird. Mangini's version, maybe it's just the camera audio, but it sounds like he's hammering the snare to death.

Sycsa

Loving how frisky Minnemann is with the bass drum in his fills.

devieira73

For the last posts, DT drummer auditions all over again and again...  :lol Like, Minneman is my favorite for UK, but Mangini is truly great on UK, although personally I really would like to see Gavin Harrison or Bobby Jarzombek on UK :rollin
Anyway, I found a sequence of good videos of Mangini on UK: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=UK+Live+%40+The+Highline+Ballroom+NYC.+4%2F24%2F15

erwinrafael

The Minnemann video seems to be a professional recording, so the sound is much better. Maybe if we cam get a better sounding audio of Mangini, we could hear more of the bass work. I assume that Minnemann's would sound more impressive because Mangini is trying to stay as close to Bruford.

Kotowboy

Back when Mangini first joined Dream Theater - it was nigh on impossible to find a video clip of him playing or soloing on YouTube that wasn't diabolical audio.

erwinrafael


rumborak

You didn't know this? How do you think they came up with the solo in Trial of Tears?

Progressive Metal Fusion

I prefer Donati's interpretation. I still think that DT would have done a huge step forward with him on drums, but nevermind.

Anyway, we're almost in May, it's time for some official news?

hefdaddy42

Quote from: rumborak on April 30, 2015, 08:22:22 AM
You didn't know this? How do you think they came up with the solo in Trial of Tears?
Yeah, no kidding.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

FLEEBS

Quote from: Progressive Metal Fusion on April 30, 2015, 08:36:35 AM

Anyway, we're almost in May, it's time for some official news?

Seriously. This is getting ridiculous.

BlackInk

Even though I usually prefer the regular studio-videos and updates routine, I must say I'm digging this secretive approach at the moment.

Dani Helios

Quote from: BlackInk on April 30, 2015, 09:30:29 AM
Even though I usually prefer the regular studio-videos and updates routine, I must say I'm digging this secretive approach at the moment.
So am I. I think it's interesting

hefdaddy42

Um, yeah, I guess.  Doesn't bother me either way.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

rumborak

Dunno, I personally don't think it's the greatest PR move. It's not as if DT is in a stage of their career where hordes of people are sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for the next release. If that was the case, radio silence could build suspense. But right now, frankly, the DT section has tumbleweed rolling through it.

CodyWanKenobi

The lack of updates makes it easier to kinda 'forget' there's a new album coming, therefore the anticipation isn't driving me fuckin nuts. haha
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Scorpion

Quote from: rumborak on April 30, 2015, 11:32:11 AM
Dunno, I personally don't think it's the greatest PR move. It's not as if DT is in a stage of their career where hordes of people are sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for the next release. If that was the case, radio silence could build suspense. But right now, frankly, the DT section has tumbleweed rolling through it.

But DT also have quite a devoted fanbase who will probably buy the new album when it comes out, regardless of how many updates they gave on its creation. And while I don't really care all that much, I do prefer this approach to just spamming us with videos that don't contain any content beyond "This album is going to be good." because they feel obligated to do so.

rumborak

I don't know, don't you get the impression that the die-hards are dwindling too?

And maybe it's just me, seeing some studio footage always excites me, particularly when it has a few snippets of music in it. Steven Wilson's studio vignettes were freaking awesome.

Dani Helios

Quote from: rumborak on April 30, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
I don't know, don't you get the impression that the die-hards are dwindling too?

And maybe it's just me, seeing some studio footage always excites me, particularly when it has a few snippets of music in it. Steven Wilson's studio vignettes were freaking awesome.
I partially agree with you. I wouldn't say that the die-hard fans are dwindling, but I do love seeing studio updates. I think it's really just about getting a balance between keeping people happy and keeping it "shrouded in mystery." I think that at the moment, they're perhaps doing a little too much of the latter, however.