Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

[The Trooper]

  Sorry have not had my coffee yet brotha.

[Prog Snob]

Not a problem.   

[madscot]

I'm hoping for a full on concept album, 70 minutes with a full orchestra, mind-blowing thought

[the_silent_man]

So... Does anyone remember the date we first had any news about DT12? Just wondering as thing have been very quiet...

[Onno]

I'm hoping for an album where they don't focus that much on what they want to write or want to create and instead just start playing/jamming and draw their inspiration from that. DT12 felt very... calculated to me.

I'm also hoping for a sonically better album than DT12. The times that I actually do listen to it, I listen to the HDTracks Version, which sounds ok. I hate the CD master.

[JediKnight1969]

I'm hoping for something like this:

1- Trial of tears
2- Breaking all illusions
3- Wait for sleep
4- Learning to live
5- Metropolis pt. 1
6- A change of seasons

Just sayin'...

[The Presence of Frenemies]

I'm hoping for something like this:

1- Trial of tears
2- Breaking all illusions
3- Wait for sleep
4- Learning to live
5- Metropolis pt. 1
6- A change of seasons

Just sayin'...

We were once told we were getting something like that...

[SystematicThought]

And as I normally never give away song descriptions, titles, lengths, etc....I will say just this:

Imagine a DT album with A Change Of Seasons, Octavarium, Learning To Live, Pull Me Under and The Glass Prison....all on one album....
 
COULD YOU HANDLE IT???

MP 
 

[fischermasamune]

Let me guess: it was BC&SL?

[SystematicThought]

Haha, yeah. I mean, he was right in a sense--song lengths alone.

[JediKnight1969]

I'm hoping for something like this:

1- Trial of tears
2- Breaking all illusions
3- Wait for sleep
4- Learning to live
5- Metropolis pt. 1
6- A change of seasons

Just sayin'...

We were once told we were getting something like that...

I remember... 

[Lumiukko]

I remember that was a little misleading at the time. haha

Comparing to this MP statement, I rather have the silent treatment.

[Dream Team]

And as I normally never give away song descriptions, titles, lengths, etc....I will say just this:

Imagine a DT album with A Change Of Seasons, Octavarium, Learning To Live, Pull Me Under and The Glass Prison....all on one album....
 
COULD YOU HANDLE IT???

MP 

This was a far worse offense than his recent facebook rant.

[SuperTaco]

And as I normally never give away song descriptions, titles, lengths, etc....I will say just this:

Imagine a DT album with A Change Of Seasons, Octavarium, Learning To Live, Pull Me Under and The Glass Prison....all on one album....
 
COULD YOU HANDLE IT???

MP 

I remember this clearly. MP really hyped that album. The expectation level was so high that it was very difficult to live up to the billing. I like the production on the album, and the combo of ANTR/ACOT is terrific, but it doesn't come close to the impact that those five songs have.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Posted this on Mangini's page. Looks like our prayers have been answered! (sorry about the image size)

[hefdaddy42]

Can't see anything.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Oh. Well basically, on his FB page I posted "Mangini, I love you man, I really do, but your snare sound is just so..."
And he replied "Changed. "

Pretty sure that means they changed his snare sound for this record. hahaha.

[fadetoblackdude7]

That's cool.....but I'm confused, does this mean he's there in the studio with them, or is he still snowed in at home?

[fischermasamune]

Posted this on Mangini's page. Looks like our prayers have been answered! (sorry about the image size)

Image is really small. I can see the mountain, but who's there in the picture? Mangini?

[King Postwhore]

Can't see anything.

*Ahem*

[CodyWanKenobi]

How about this one?

[Zydar]

Posted this on Mangini's page. Looks like our prayers have been answered! (sorry about the image size)

[SuperTaco]

How about this one?

Just that one word gives me more hope

[King Postwhore]

I can see it Cody.




PROOF!

[TAC]

That's cool.....but I'm confused, does this mean he's there in the studio with them, or is he still snowed in at home?

I believe he's in the studio.

[Voices]

I remember that was a little misleading at the time. haha

Comparing to this MP statement, I rather have the silent treatment.

This!

[Calvin6s]

Oh. Well basically, on his FB page I posted "Mangini, I love you man, I really do, but your snare sound is just so..."
And he replied "Changed. "

Pretty sure that means they changed his snare sound for this record. hahaha.

And this might be an example where the bitching helped Mangini.  Perhaps he was already having this conversation the previous albums and getting vetoed.  DT and the people in the studio see the bad fan response and give in saying "ok, Mike.  Let's try it the way you've been talking about."

Who knows?  The point is simply that not all bitching is done with vindictive intent.

[rumborak]

I'll believe it when I hear it tbh. DT12 was supposed to have chocolate cake guitars and MM unleashed, neither of which really happened.

[nobloodyname]

...and, of course, the dynamics on a couple of recent albums were supposed to have been better. 'Better' is relative so in that regard it could be said they were indeed 'better' but the dynamics on the standard releases have been sorely lacking.

[JiM-Xtreme]

Oh. Well basically, on his FB page I posted "Mangini, I love you man, I really do, but your snare sound is just so..."
And he replied "Changed. "

Pretty sure that means they changed his snare sound for this record. hahaha.

Or he could just be messing with you, since you publicly criticized him (sort of). 

[SuperTaco]

I'll believe it when I hear it tbh. DT12 was supposed to have chocolate cake guitars and MM unleashed, neither of which really happened.

I agree with you regarding MM, and perhaps I'm not that educated on toooone, but JP's guitars sure sounded thick and cakey to me. Is there a better example of chocolate cake guitars that you know of? I would love to listen to it 

[rumborak]

For example his SFAM tone I would classify as much more chocolate cake. I mean, it's not terrible on DT12 by any means (LALP has an awful guitar tone), but just not really wowing in any sense.

[Voices]

I really enjoyed JP's tone in DT12, but it doesn't sound the same he used in BTFW. It sounds way more dirty, and not as clear as in DT12, although I liked it too.
But speaking of MM's tooooone, the one he used in BTFW is way better than DT12. I don't know if it's just a matter of production, but the tone itself sounded way better in the live record. Let's wait to see what will change this time around.

[mikemangioy]

SIGNS OF LIFE

[Marion Crane]

I just hope there are at least some redeeming qualities about this next record, but DT12 did absolutely nothing for me