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Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
If they do decide to do another concept album, I'm sure it will be great, but I hope they don't do Metropolis Pt. 3 because Part 2 is already perfect.

Well, I do agree with you on that.

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.

I wouldn't call it "fact". In my opinion, third one isn't even getting close to the brilliance of first two.

Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

AngelBack

I don't see a full blown Met3 concept album, but I can a song that in some way would keep the story alive or end it.  Would be especially nice if it weren't blatantly obvious and then DTF could argue for ages to come over what it meant and whether it was indeed Met3.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

King Postwhore

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.

I almost typed the same response myself.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Mosh

Quote from: AngelBack on February 23, 2015, 11:12:46 AM
I don't see a full blown Met3 concept album, but I can a song that in some way would keep the story alive or end it.  Would be especially nice if it weren't blatantly obvious and then DTF could argue for ages to come over what it meant and whether it was indeed Met3.
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:

Randaran

Quote from: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:

But they have not copied FII yet! :biggrin:

?

So... at least Jordan is in the studio now: https://www.facebook.com/jordanrudessofficial/photos/a.10151821986107989.1073741826.8717682988/10152773698542989/?type=1

Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?

DarkLord_Lalinc

Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.

Another_Won

Quote from: ? on February 24, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
So... at least Jordan is in the studio now: https://www.facebook.com/jordanrudessofficial/photos/a.10151821986107989.1073741826.8717682988/10152773698542989/?type=1

Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 01:17:24 PM
Yes, that's true. 

Interestingly enough, it is beginning to sound more and more like DT will only be doing the summer European festival circuit this year.  That is kind of interesting news.  That means that they may not have an artificially imposed deadline to finish the new album - they will write/record for a few months, then get ready for the live shows, play them, and then they could come back and finish up the album.

The quote here from Hef came from the "That Metal Show" thread.

I like the idea that they're not rushing to finish.  I know some people were concerned about that.

Mladen

Quote from: ? on February 24, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?
That would be great, they could indulge in it as much as they want, they don't need to hurry.

kirksnosehair

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.


100 million monkeys x 100 million typewriters x 100 million years = "Hamlet" ?   :P   ;)

hefdaddy42

I don't think it is quite that drastic.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

YtseJamittaja

That Jordan's picture is hurting my brains. :puke:


ReaPsTA


erwinrafael

Quote from: Randaran on February 23, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:

But they have not copied FII yet! :biggrin:

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!

Also, it's my first time to watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdBeeph0aFM
I did not know that they already did Peruvian Skies with Mangini!

Eldomm

Quote from: erwinrafael on February 24, 2015, 11:43:36 PM

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!


..but they already did it with Endless Sacrifice!!!  :P

erwinrafael

Quote from: Eldomm on February 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on February 24, 2015, 11:43:36 PM

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!


..but they already did it with Endless Sacrifice!!!  :P

You have a point.  :lol

Kotowboy

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 24, 2015, 09:06:07 AM
Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.

::) Seriously. It's like he's got this image of being a wizard and a master of technology so he can't just post a pic without fucking it up.

?


Kotowboy

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 23, 2015, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.

I almost typed the same response myself.

Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.

ariich

I like Unforgiven III. Though it's probably not quite as good as the other two.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Prog Snob

I've never even heard it.  Should I even bother?  I thought Unforgiven II was terrible.

JayOctavarium

I don't mind Unforgiven III. But it is also not a song that I'd listen to outside of the context of the album.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Another_Won

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 02:48:45 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 24, 2015, 09:06:07 AM
Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.

::) Seriously. It's like he's got this image of being a wizard and a master of technology so he can't just post a pic without fucking it up.

He has to or we'll transcribe the new music in the background and release it before the album  :biggrin:

Randaran

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 03:46:31 AM
Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.

Though the song itself is not that great, it had the best solo on the album. Though that is not an impressive accomplishment, considering how most of them are terrible.

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: Randaran on February 25, 2015, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 03:46:31 AM
Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.

Though the song itself is not that great, it had the best solo on the album. Though that is not an impressive accomplishment, considering how most of them are terrible.

I love all 3 of those songs. I read that TU3 was the only song that James was fighting for to have a place on the album, cuz he wanted to complete the trilogy and it's personal to him.

425

See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.

Rodni Demental

Quote from: 425 on February 25, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.

Thank you, glad someone else thinks this! ;D
I completely agree. I think they're all not too bad in their own right. Maybe they're all just living in the shadow of the first one and you probably can't beat the nostalgic associations and the reputation of the first one; but the second and third are still solid tracks in their own regard. Not to mention the Unforgiven series can be a nice change of pace for Metallica.

MirzekDT

Quote from: Rodni Demental on February 25, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: 425 on February 25, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.

Thank you, glad someone else thinks this! ;D
I completely agree. I think they're all not too bad in their own right. Maybe they're all just living in the shadow of the first one and you probably can't beat the nostalgic associations and the reputation of the first one; but the second and third are still solid tracks in their own regard. Not to mention the Unforgiven series can be a nice change of pace for Metallica.

I like Unforgiven III as well. It's definitely in top half and one of the more interesting tracks of Death Magnetic for me.

Kotowboy

:emo: Unforgiven II is actually my favourite.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 05:15:45 PM
:emo: Unforgiven II is actually my favourite.

Mine too. :hifive:
I recall Hetfield has said Unforgiven 3 shouldn't have been named Unforgiven, and it was an afterthought to do so. I think it would also be a huge mistake for DT to do a Metropolis pt 3. I don't know why either discussion has come up.

ThatOneGuy2112

Because there's little to no news yet and everyone's bored. :lol

Prog Snob

Blob does have a point though.  We resorted to talking about crappy Metallica songs.   Why don't we try and figure out how many songs are going to be on the album or how many instrumentals, if any?  Will there be a John Myung lyric again?  Will there be more Jordan on the CD?