Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

[jmasterx]

My personal feeling of the Mangini era albums is they lack experimenting. The songs feel safe IMO. I want them to try new things, and really use Mangini for what he can really do; I want to hear crazy stuff.

MP worked with NM recently on an album called The Grand Experiment and I really liked it. Especially The Call. That song has a nice DT-ish vibe for me that's experimental and really interesting to me. Plus I obviously love the sound of MP's drums. But I just want to hear that from DT, and I want MM to take control of the drum production, but MM is too much of a team player to ever say, hey, mr engineer, I don't want my snare sounding like st anger, fix it!

I really hope this new DT album will bring something fresh and new and experimental. A bit like the jam the band had with Mangini during his audition, I really enjoyed that.

[hefdaddy42]

Depends on how quickly they move through writing and recording.  If they absolutely flew through it, it would be kind of cool to just get the news that they are done, and it will be out soon.

Personally, I think it would be better if they don't 'fly thorough' the writing and recording.  IMHO that's what a lot of their albums end up sounding like - jam, record it, jam, record it, mix it together into a song - repeat.  I haven't felt like an album was really 'crafted' since 6DOIT, although I did enjoy the last two albums more than the four that preceeded them.

I wasn't recommending that they fly through it.  Although given their touring commitments, they may do some version of that.

[The Presence of Frenemies]

Weren't there very few announcements of Scenes before release because they wanted to keep the story under wraps? If the rumors of a concept album happen to be true, couldn't we be in for something similar? Granted, the proliferation of online media over the last 15+ years certainly changes the landscape, but who knows.

[Implode]

metropolis 3 confirmed

[Prog Snob]

metropolis 3 confirmed

Well then it's going to be a prequel because they're mostly dead.   

[BlobVanDam]

metropolis 3 confirmed

Well then it's going to be a prequel because they're mostly dead.   

It can be a sequel. What part of reincarnation don't you get?

[Prog Snob]

metropolis 3 confirmed

Well then it's going to be a prequel because they're mostly dead.   

It can be a sequel. What part of reincarnation don't you get?

   Lay off man. I lack sleep and things are moving that shouldn't be.

[Bolsters]

Metropolis part 3: The Miracle and the Rehash

[YtseJamittaja]

Metropolis pt.3: Victoria's Secret

[Kotowboy]

Metr0pol15 prt le 3 : There we fick'n did it - now will you all shut up ? And no - there isn't going to be a pt 4 in another 15 years. Jordan is already like 60 or whatever.

[hefdaddy42]

Metropolis pt.3: Victoria's Secret

Oh God I hope so

[BlackInk]

^I'm not sure how exciting that would be on an audio only album though..

[the_silent_man]

If they were to a do a concept album, which would be wicked, I wouldn't want Metropolis Part 3 but something different with a new story.

Let's face it, they won't ever make Metropolis Part 3, because the story is complete and also it will never live up to Part 2. It will constantly be compared to it. It's a terrible idea as it'll never live up to the hype.
All up for another concept album, though!

More than anything, I would just like the album to be more progressive this time. The last album was great, but it was very safe for DT (granted that was their plan) and I'd like to see an album with longer songs, such as ADTOE but with less ballads.

[The Presence of Frenemies]

Yeah, if they are doing a concept, the odds that it's M3 are...maybe 10% at best.

[BlackInk]

No, it's 0%. At least I hope it is. SFaM is a great album, but I sincerely hope the guys in DT are imaginative enough to come up with something new.

[rumborak]

As awesome as the album is, the concept itself was kinda campy. Doing another sequel would just be bound to step into awful territory.

[The Presence of Frenemies]

As awesome as the album is, the concept itself was kinda campy. Doing another sequel would just be bound to step into awful territory.

Yeah. You'd hope that the band, if they went the concept route, had something a bit more fresh.

[PetFish]

Let's face it, they won't ever make Metropolis Part 3, because the story is complete and also it will never live up to Part 2.

But it's not complete.  The villain gets away with it... twice (thrice).  Just cuz we now know the truth and Victoria can finally smile (and be in colour) doesn't make the story complete.  Far from it, actually, since Nicholas never had a chance to actually tell anyone what really happened before he was murdered himself and so there's no justice for anyone other than Edward The Killer.

If there's one general constant in storytelling is that the good guy(s) win in the end.  People like a happy ending.  This guy got away with three murders in two different time periods.  I would have no problem if they did a third act and the good guy(s) win.

Saying it will never live up to Part 2 is rather dismissive as well.  How can you assume and say that without actually experiencing it?

Plus trilogies.

[BlackInk]

No, good guy winning does not equal 'complete story'. The story of 'Metropolis' is completely concluded in my mind, there is no need for more.

[YtseJamittaja]

That Metropolis pt.3 discussion will never end. Then if they choose to do it, we will discuss about Metropolis 4. I hope they don't do it. It's like The Unforgiven. Two is enough.

[Prog Snob]

That Metropolis pt.3 discussion will never end. Then if they choose to do it, we will discuss about Metropolis 4. I hope they don't do it. It's like The Unforgiven. Two is enough.

Or they will make Metropolis 3 and everyone will complain about it in some way.  Or go right to Metropolis 4: The Search For 3. 

[YtseJamittaja]

Maybe we should do a poll who really wants Metropolis pt.3.

[Calvin6s]

There is no way they are doing Metropolis Part 3.

They are renaming Part 1 & 2 to Part 3 & 4 and are doing the prequel.  It will be about the parents of Julian and Victoria, who it turns out, are twins ... making their affair extra gross.

It will also reinvent Edward's character as the hero.

[Prog Snob]

There is no way they are doing Metropolis Part 3.

They are renaming Part 1 & 2 to Part 3 & 4 and are doing the prequel.  It will be about the parents of Julian and Victoria, who it turns out, are twins ... making their affair extra gross.

It will also reinvent Edward's character as the hero.

I still want to know what the gift is that she is carrying from her home.  Is the "she" Victoria?  The dawn? 

[Kotowboy]

That Metropolis pt.3 discussion will never end. Then if they choose to do it, we will discuss about Metropolis 4. I hope they don't do it. It's like The Unforgiven. Two is enough.

It is. Unforgiven III is by far the worst song on Death Magnetic and a HUGS drop off in quality from the first two.


( with II being my personal favourite ) .

[jonnybaxy]

This conversation is had every time.

It won't happen.

[Calvin6s]

This conversation is had every time.

It won't happen.

The better statement is:  It shouldn't happen.  If DT does a Met3, they will officially be regressive metal.

[JediKnight1969]

Let's face it, they won't ever make Metropolis Part 3...

There must be the third and last dance.
This one will last forever.

[Sycsa]

This conversation is had every time.

It won't happen.

The better statement is:  It shouldn't happen.  If DT does a Met3, they will officially be regressive metal.

I don't see how the concept of an album has a significant bearing on whether or not the music is actually good or not.

[Kotowboy]

I don't see how the concept of an album has a significant bearing on whether or not the music is actually good or not.

This entirely. If the next album is their best - it won't be marred by the fact that it wasn't a concept album.

Conversely - if it IS a concept album - it could potentially be their all time worst album.

It's all about the songs.

[?]

They should release Metropolis Pt. 4 just to mess with our minds...

[rumborak]

They tried to do that with Hot Tub Time Machine. The current movie was supposed to be called "Hot Tub Time Machine 3", because of the time travelling involved. It was rejected by the studio as "too confusing".

[Sycsa]

Which reminds me of the Leisure Suit Larry VG series. The third installment wrapped things up nicely and designer Al Lowe was struggling with the writing of the 4th episode, so he decided to skip it entirely and do Larry 5 instead, were everything went wrong for the character and he even struggles with amnesia with regards to the missing episode.

[rumborak]

Oh god, I remember that!

[TheCountOfNYC]

That Metropolis pt.3 discussion will never end. Then if they choose to do it, we will discuss about Metropolis 4. I hope they don't do it. It's like The Unforgiven. Two is enough.

Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy. On topic, I don't believe they should do Metropolis Pt. 3. This is a band very much living in the present and for the future. They don't seem like they would be interested in rehashing old ideas. If they do decide to to another concept album, it will be an entirely different story/idea. For me, a concept album would be cool but it's not needed. They already made one of the grestest concept albums of all time and have two more albums that can be considered concept albums in Six Degrees and Octavarium. If they do decide to do another concept album, I'm sure it will be great, but I hope they don't do Metropolis Pt. 3 because Part 2 is already perfect.