Dream Theater - another day Beat/Instrumental (merged)

[emmeres]

Hey , first sorry for my bad english , im German

i found a german Song
whit the melody of

"Another day" from dream theater

i searched over 4hours for it ,
because this Beat is so beautiful
but cant find any Remix beat or something that match to the german song ...

i hope soooo much anyone can help me  ...



here the german song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0eJ6BSxobM

(this is NO advertising ... i really want to have this beat i asked the guy who made this song ,
he wrote that over 5 years ago , and he cant remember about the beat)

[Zook]

Well this is interesting.



It's........ not bad.


Why are Rappers so unoriginal?

[emmeres]

Well this is interesting.



It's........ not bad.


Why are Rappers so unoriginal?

what do you mean whit unoriginal ?

[Zook]

Well this is interesting.



It's........ not bad.


Why are Rappers so unoriginal?

what do you mean whit unoriginal ?

Rappers have a tendency to "borrow" other artists' melodies or "sample" them as they like to call it. I don't like that. It's unoriginal. Can they not come up with their own music? Yeah I guess it's neat that this person was able to write a rap/hip hop song around a Dream Theater guitar melody, but still, it irks me.

[emmeres]

Well this is interesting.



It's........ not bad.


Why are Rappers so unoriginal?

what do you mean whit unoriginal ?

Rappers have a tendency to "borrow" other artists' melodies or "sample" them as they like to call it. I don't like that. It's unoriginal. Can they not come up with their own music? Yeah I guess it's neat that this person was able to write a rap/hip hop song around a Dream Theater guitar melody, but still, it irks me.

he is very unknown , so he is not able to pay anyone , to make him a beat or something


but yea there are guys who make free beats
so i can understand what you mean ..

[emmeres]

That is NOT the original beat to what I agree is a very beautiful song.

Someone took the original melody and first sped it up-probably to avoid copy wright entanglements-and then crapped all over it by turning it into a DISGUSTING rap "song!"

i know its not the original,

i know the original and how its sound


maybe i just like it so much because this song
has such a big meaning for me ?


i expected that the beat in the rap
is a remix or something

but i cant find it anywhere ..

[wolfking]

I don't mind when rappers and DJ's and shit make their own beats and stuff, that;s fair enough for what they do and the limited music knowledge and ability that they have.  But when they start sampling other songs from complete different genre's and shit all over them, that's when I have a problem.

[emmeres]

guys ...

pls stop saying this rapper just make shit

you dont understand his textes ,

there is so much meaning in it



so ,
you can answer my question , if anyone know this beat

but stop saying its just shit/crap etc.

[rumborak]

Naja, die Texte sind ja wohl nicht so der Hammer...

Bezüglich des Beats, den kannst du wahrscheinlich auch selber basteln. Das ist doch nur der Anfang von Another Day um 10% verschnellert, und dann ein relativ generischer Drumbeat drunter.

[Outcrier]

guys ...

pls stop saying this rapper just make shit

you dont understand his textes ,

there is so much meaning in it



so ,
you can answer my question , if anyone know this beat

but stop saying its just shit/crap etc.

Well, don't mind, this arrogance is common in prog forums i guess.
About your request, if you contacted the guy who made the beat and he doesn't have it, the only way is recreating it.

[emmeres]

Naja, die Texte sind ja wohl nicht so der Hammer...

Bezüglich des Beats, den kannst du wahrscheinlich auch selber basteln. Das ist doch nur der Anfang von Another Day um 10% verschnellert, und dann ein relativ generischer Drumbeat drunter.

also ich liebe seine Texte

bin einer der wenigen die so ne musik richtung mögen


den beat selbst machen schaff ich eh nicht

und finden kann ich ihn auch nach über 4 stunden nicht

[Zook]

Well this is interesting.



It's........ not bad.


Why are Rappers so unoriginal?

what do you mean whit unoriginal ?

Rappers have a tendency to "borrow" other artists' melodies or "sample" them as they like to call it. I don't like that. It's unoriginal. Can they not come up with their own music? Yeah I guess it's neat that this person was able to write a rap/hip hop song around a Dream Theater guitar melody, but still, it irks me.

he is very unknown , so he is not able to pay anyone , to make him a beat or something


but yea there are guys who make free beats
so i can understand what you mean ..

That's not really what I was getting at. Instead of coming up with an original melody, this guy took the beginning of Another day, sped it up and looped it to make his background music. Pretty clever, it worked, but completely unoriginal, and that's what A LOT of Rappers do. Professional ones at that.

Hell, Kid Rock did it with Metallica's Sad But True, and although I didn't mind it, he was able to take another band's music, rap over it and make a completely new song. Completely unoriginal and cheap, but it worked.

Tis all I'm saying. I'm not a fan of Rap music. I like some Eminem, but the majority I think is garbage, but Gangsta rap has given rap a bad name and image.

I don't mind this song you posted, even if I can't understand any of it. I just wish rappers wouldn't resort to "sampling".

[emmeres]

guys ...

pls stop saying this rapper just make shit

you dont understand his textes ,

there is so much meaning in it



so ,
you can answer my question , if anyone know this beat

but stop saying its just shit/crap etc.

Well, don't mind, this arrogance is common in prog forums i guess.
About your request, if you contacted the guy who made the beat and he doesn't have it, the only way is recreating it.

i contacted the guy who rapped on it
i dont know who made this beat

and i gues i cant recreat it , im not so talented

[rumborak]

Naja, die Texte sind ja wohl nicht so der Hammer...

Bezüglich des Beats, den kannst du wahrscheinlich auch selber basteln. Das ist doch nur der Anfang von Another Day um 10% verschnellert, und dann ein relativ generischer Drumbeat drunter.

also ich liebe seine Texte

bin einer der wenigen die so ne musik richtung mögen


den beat selbst machen schaff ich eh nicht

und finden kann ich ihn auch nach über 4 stunden nicht

Ich mag Fanta4, also ist jetzt nicht so dass ich keinen Rap mag.

Ich versteh nur nicht ganz wonach du suchst? Der Hintergrund hinter seinem Rap wird er ja wohl selber für das Lied gemacht haben, also von daher wird's das auch nicht zum runterladen geben.
Und wie gesagt, mehr als das Intro 10% schneller und ein generischer Beat darüber ist das ja jetzt auch wirklich nicht. H1 wird das nicht länger als 10 Minuten gebraucht um den Hintergrund zu "kreieren".

[emmeres]

Naja, die Texte sind ja wohl nicht so der Hammer...

Bezüglich des Beats, den kannst du wahrscheinlich auch selber basteln. Das ist doch nur der Anfang von Another Day um 10% verschnellert, und dann ein relativ generischer Drumbeat drunter.

also ich liebe seine Texte

bin einer der wenigen die so ne musik richtung mögen


den beat selbst machen schaff ich eh nicht

und finden kann ich ihn auch nach über 4 stunden nicht

Ich mag Fanta4, also ist jetzt nicht so dass ich keinen Rap mag.

Ich versteh nur nicht ganz wonach du suchst? Der Hintergrund hinter seinem Rap wird er ja wohl selber für das Lied gemacht haben, also von daher wird's das auch nicht zum runterladen geben.
Und wie gesagt, mehr als das Intro 10% schneller und ein generischer Beat darüber ist das ja jetzt auch nicht.

ich mein damit so diesen "Depri rap" wie ihn manche nennen


aber der beat ist irgendwie anders als nur das intro

keine ahnung xD


ne download version vom ersteller wäre shon toll

[Zook]

I'm just going to assume Google Translate is to blame for your bad German grammar.

[emmeres]

I'm just going to assume Google Translate is to blame for your bad German grammar.

we all hate german grammar 

[Outcrier]

I don't mind this song you posted, even if I can't understand any of it. I just wish rappers wouldn't resort to "sampling".

You know, it's not like every sample is copy/paste, change pitch and loop till eternity.
There is tons of original stuff made only with samples like Endtroducing or Since I Left You, which isn't even a Hip Hop album.

[rumborak]

The transition at 2:25 in the video is hilariously bad

[emmeres]

The transition at 2:25 in the video is hilariously bad

ich denke mal das war gewollt

das kurz alles aufhört

schliesslich hat die stimme ja auch gestopt

[rumborak]

Das Aufhören ist gewollt, ohne Frage. Die vermurkste Klarinette nicht.

[chaossystem]

OK I don't know what most of your post is even addressing, no one mentioned your post count or anything like that as far as I can tell.

As for the other part, people have a hard believing your age because most people associate the sort of "things I don't like are bad" mentality with much younger people (which is true to a large extent, I suppose). That said, though, I don't think most younger people really have a problem with rap, by and large. That sort of opinion of it does tend to come almost exclusively from older generations, in my experience (which isn't exhaustive by any means).

Although I kinda agree with your original post to a certain extent. I'm no rap hater by any means, and I don't even mind sampling when they do something clever with it, but here it just seems to be a way to get out of actually writing the rest of the song.

You do make some good points.

Zook seemed to be mentioning that I  wasn't still around, and I was just pointing out that I am, just on a more limited basis.

You're absolutlely right about the "age thing." It's large part because of my age that I hate rap. But sometimes it's hard to find the words to express my opinions in the right way without offending other people.

And speaking of both being offended and of what you said in your last paragraph: I reacted the way I did because it is VERY offensive to ME when someone takes a piece of music that I value and does THAT to it.

[rumborak]

BTW, the rapper here in question is a total smalltime guy. The only online mention I found of him was when he won some type of "rap-off" at a local fair.

Chaos, I'd be more upset what Nicky does with DT songs than what this guy does.

[YtseJamittaja]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iui7acgdzXk

[emmeres]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iui7acgdzXk

i allready know this , but its not the same

[Outcrier]

That is NOT the original beat to what I agree is a very beautiful song.

Someone took the original melody and first sped it up-probably to avoid copy wright entanglements-

Nope, "someone" pitched it up to make an more uptempo beat, there's no "trying to avoid copywright stuff" because isn't like this was officially released as far as i know. Simple nice beat.

If it was officially released, it won't be good because the beatmaker sampled it in a very standard way, one in which the original source still is instantly recognizable, something that doesn't work with well know songs such as Another Day imo.

Ah, and samplers don't pitch/speed songs up to avoid copyright stuff, if that's what you think it is.

[chaossystem]

Hey , first sorry for my bad english , im German

i found a german Song
whit the melody of

"Another day" from dream theater

i searched over 4hours for it ,
because this Beat is so beautiful
but cant find any Remix beat or something that match to the german song ...

i hope soooo much anyone can help me  ...



here the german song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0eJ6BSxobM

(this is NO advertising ... i really want to have this beat i asked the guy who made this song ,
he wrote that over 5 years ago , and he cant remember about the beat)

I didn't mean what I originally said to sound like a personal attack on you. You seem like a nice guy, and just because I don't like rap doesn't mean I would or should ever tell you not to listen to it.

You like rap.

I don't.

To each their own.

However, when I first read your intro, and then listened to a bit of the song, I thought that because of what you said about having trouble with English, that you were having some confusion between the words "beat" and "melody," but I guess I was wrong.
However, the person who recorded this thing made some changes in both: they upped the tempo so it's actually a "faster melody," and the beat is cleary NOT Mike Portnoy's original drum track. It's almost unrecognizable as Dream Theater's "Another Day."

Still, it might be interesting to hear some of the band's songs re-recorded in other languages, such as German, Spanish, French, Russian, Arabic, etc. It might be a way to get some of us "Ugly Americans" to learn another language.

[chaossystem]

I find the entire concept of "making beats" fucking hilarious.

People who are so devoid of any musical ability that they have to make drum beats to sell

" Yo - buy my beats ! "

Haha. fuck off. i make entire songs thanks.

So much ignorance in one post 

DONT CARE

I couldn't have said it better myself.

However-and I'm not defending rap by any means when I say this, because I still hate the sound of it-if you dig deep enough you can find a lack of originality in almost anything.
I recently saw a post on YouTube where someone pointed out that a lot of DT's melodies were supposedly copped from other music by other artists. Some of the comparisons were pretty close, but some of the others were REALLY REACHING!
I think it's possible that someone like Petrucci or Rudess could "hear" or "write" a melody in his head that sounds similar to something that already exists. It's also possible that they could unconsciously have copied something they actually DID hear.

But I would like to think that they would never try to INTENTIONALLY rip off someone else's work.

[Outcrier]

However-and I'm not defending rap by any means when I say this, because I still hate the sound of it-if you dig deep enough you can find a lack of originality in almost anything.

Ok man. With "anything", i honestly thought you meant "anything within the rap genre" while, as a matter of fact, it was about all sorts of media in general. Just a little misunderstand then, sorry for making these accusations

Changing subjects: Like you said, you didn't liked Shadow, that's fine. I argue that judging his music only by one song is lame but, to each their own. One thing i just don't think it's fine it's the way you call what you don't like: "garbage", "disgusting" rap song, etcetera. Bashing things in a forum isn't nice (rarely i see people bashing what they don't like here in DTF, at least).

Also, about that old discussion, I didn't tried to convert you since there's no need to be a fan of any genre to recognize talent on it but, sadly, it looks like you're pretty much biased against rap beyond reason. My point wasn't making you enjoy rap, just showing that there is tons of well thought music on it as well just like any other genre. You tried to like that song i sent, this isn't what i wanted.
I wanted to make you think and understand how that song was crafted so you could see the creativity that went down in order to creating it, something that could make you respect the genre even if you hate the sound of it but it seems putting bias aside and doing that is a bit difficult for you, my friend 

[PixelDream]

Don't know if this thread is actually about 'Another Day', but I'm listening to it right now and it rocks. Images & Words is some classic, classic shit.

[chaossystem]

Ok man. With "anything", i honestly thought you meant "anything within the rap genre" while, as a matter of fact, it was about all sorts of media in general. Just a little misunderstand then, sorry for making these accusations

Changing subjects: Like you said, you didn't liked Shadow, that's fine. I argue that judging his music only by one song is lame but, to each their own. One thing i just don't think it's fine it's the way you call what you don't like: "garbage", "disgusting" rap song, etcetera. Bashing things in a forum isn't nice (rarely i see people bashing what they don't like here in DTF, at least).

Also, about that old discussion, I didn't tried to convert you since there's no need to be a fan of any genre to recognize talent on it but, sadly, it looks like you're pretty much biased against rap beyond reason. My point wasn't making you enjoy rap, just showing that there is tons of well thought music on it as well just like any other genre. You tried to like that song i sent, this isn't what i wanted.
I wanted to make you think and understand how that song was crafted so you could see the creativity that went down in order to creating it, something that could make you respect the genre even if you hate the sound of it but it seems putting bias aside and doing that is a bit difficult for you, my friend 
[/quote]

I think a lot of your anger and frustration comes from the general attitude you're getting on here, especially about rap, and not just from me.

Kowtowboy, among others, has said some things that were just as HARSH as what I said, if not more so.

But I do agree that me using the word garbage was maybe going a little too far.

However, when you originally asked me to listen to that "song" it was because I supposed to hear something DIFFERENT that was supposed to change my mind about rap.

NOW you're telling me not to judge by one song, even though it was the song you wanted me to hear.

And when I talk about lack of originality, a good example would be how in some books I recently read the authors talk about how movie-makers take bits and pieces of one type of movie and put them into their own in a effort to appear more "creative." I believe it's called "genre-blending."

in RAP they call it "sampling."

As for "the creativity that goes down:" No matter what you do, or how well you DO it, you're NEVER going to please EVERYBODY.

There will ALWAYS be people who hate DT, no matter how good WE might think they are, and matter how many different kinds of music they play. There will ALWAYS be someone to find fault, no matter WHAT they do!

[sneakyblueberry]

And when I talk about lack of originality, a good example would be how in some books I recently read the authors talk about how movie-makers take bits and pieces of one type of movie and put them into their own in a effort to appear more "creative." I believe it's called "genre-blending."

in RAP they call it "sampling."

Sampling does not arise out of a lack of creativity, in fact it's quite the opposite.

The first hip hop DJ's used turntables at block parties and the like, then started to isolate the drum breaks in the old soul records they listened to and looped them, leaving them open for MC's to eventually rhyme over and the breakdancers to dance to.  That's the aesthetic that modern hip-hop pays homage to with its use of samples.

There's definitely an art to it and a way of approaching it that is totally out of left field, and isn't as cut and dry as you seem to think.

[rumborak]

chaos, It's pretty clear that you don't get the point of sampling, or rap as a genre in general. Not sure what point this discussion still has.

I for one am looking forward to the new Die Fantastischen Vier album coming out on the 24th. Their "lack of creativity" makes the sample a ton of Star Wars movie quotes, and I appreciate that kind of lack of creativity.

[rumborak]

I wish KM had been more creative. All those movie samples, tsk tsk.

[sneakyblueberry]

I was going to mention that