You Not Me is the worst song on any DT studio album

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

[BlobVanDam]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

[TheGreatPretender]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

Buuut... Drums are an instrument... So wouldn't "Instrumental break" automatically imply drums included? 

[BlobVanDam]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

Buuut... Drums are an instrument... So wouldn't "Instrumental break" automatically imply drums included? 

Of course! I just felt they were stand-out enough that they also deserved a specific mention.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Yeah, the drums and then Petrucci's solo are the standout part of the song for me. I do still enjoy the rest of it, though.

[hefdaddy42]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  Shame that the rest of the song is wrapped around it.

[jammindude]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  Shame that the rest of the song is wrapped around it.

HA!  This tickled me, because you took the words right out of my mouth.   

[?]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  Shame that the rest of the song is wrapped around it.

[Dublagent66]

Take Away My Pain is amazing, you bastards.

Killing me again Zook.  I wouldn't call it amazing but it's pretty damn good.  I've always liked it.

[rush-signals]

Man I love You Not Me, but then I love all of FII! There's nothing wrong with the song at all.

[Crow]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

Extremely yes. The entire band is just on fire for the entirety of Petrucci's solo really.

[TheGreatPretender]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

Extremely yes. The entire band is just on fire for the entirety of Petrucci's solo really.

So on fire they're.... Blistering?

[RaiseTheKnife]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

This is also true on the double bass fills during the You Or Me instrumental break.

[BlobVanDam]

The instrumental break in Constant Motion is amazing.

The drumming behind it is excellent too.

This is also true on the double bass fills during the You Or Me instrumental break.

That is a nice fill. It's been such a long time since I've properly listened to YNM the whole way through, I'd forgotten that the instrumental break is actually pretty cool.
The only part of the song that really lets it down at all is the chorus, and mostly because it's at odds with the rest of the song in style. But I've actually had the song stuck in my head a lot since this thread came up.

[CrimsonSunrise]

You Not Me is one of my fav's on FII, and FII is one of my mid ranked albums.  I can think of a helluva lot worse songs.  Like many have mentioned...a couple of those are on FII.  Take Away my Pain? Anna Lee?  **shudder** 

[Zook]

You Not Me is one of my fav's on FII, and FII is one of my mid ranked albums.  I can think of a helluva lot worse songs.  Like many have mentioned...a couple of those are on FII.  Take Away my Pain? Anna Lee?  **shudder** 

GAD NABBIT!

[BlobVanDam]

You Not Me is one of my fav's on FII, and FII is one of my mid ranked albums.  I can think of a helluva lot worse songs.  Like many have mentioned...a couple of those are on FII.  Take Away my Pain? Anna Lee?  **shudder** 

Anna Lee is a beautiful song, and I've even come to really like TAMP recently too. The guitar solo alone justifies it!

[TheGreatPretender]

Anna Lee is a beautiful song, and I've even come to really like TAMP recently too. The guitar solo alone justifies it!

TAMP is awesome. I mean, it's got some great sentiments, great melodies. I really don't understand why people don't like it... Just because it was one of those songs that received record label tampering I guess?

And yeah, Anna Lee is a song I recently come to enjoy, mainly from doing it at Karaoke and realizing just how great the melodies in it were.

[BlobVanDam]

Anna Lee is a beautiful song, and I've even come to really like TAMP recently too. The guitar solo alone justifies it!

TAMP is awesome. I mean, it's got some great sentiments, great melodies. I really don't understand why people don't like it... Just because it was one of those songs that received record label tampering I guess?

And yeah, Anna Lee is a song I recently come to enjoy, mainly from doing it at Karaoke and realizing just how great the melodies in it were.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason it always put me off was just the vibe, which I guess could also be viewed as a result of label/producer tampering. I've never had a problem with the songwriting itself, it was just that odd sound they went for compared to the more straight-forward demo.

[mioist]

The worst DT song for me is Light Fuse and Get Away. Never liked it since day 1. You Not Me is not a bad track but I find the demo version (You OR Me) much better.

[The Curious Orange]

The problem with You Not Me is that it was seen as the weakest song on the album. I love FII, but a lot of fans don't seem to like it that much, whether it's because it's not heavy enough, or the songs are too short, or because the band have subsequently explained the problems around that album I don't know.

You Not Me isn't a bad song. It just doesn't seem to fit with the album. FII is stronger without it.

DT have done pretty similar songs on recent albums - I don't know why Foresaken, BMUBMD or The Looking Glass don't get the same level of hate that YNM does. I guess it's because they "fit" with their respective albums, and the band has somehow "chosen" to record them rather than giving in to industry pressure.

I can forgive some of the stuff on WDADU for being weak (Status Seeker, OWHTSTS) as it was a very formative album, and I can accept that songs like This Dying Soul may not be my cup of tea but other fans like them.

For my money, the weakest song on any DT album is Prophets of War, with BMUBMD a close second.

[Zook]

I don't have a problem with YNM anymore, but I don't understand how you can compare The Looking Glass to it. That's just a regular song whereas YNM is cheesy with a side of corn.

[BlobVanDam]

I think the difference between YNM and other songs that fill a similar role on their albums, is that those are more successful at what they set out to do, and feel more coherent.
I don't dislike YNM because it had outside influences, but as a side effect of that influence, the song ended up a bit of a muddle, and the song doesn't all go together. That chorus isn't bad, but it's not fitting to the rest of the song. I think the original chorus is much worse, but it at least felt like part of the same song.

The song did need some tweaks, but the tinkering just made things worse rather than better, because it wasn't changed in a way that helped the song achieve what it intended to do. Instead they tried changing it into something it wasn't supposed to be.

[theseoafs]

I don't have a problem with YNM anymore, but I don't understand how you can compare The Looking Glass to it. That's just a regular song whereas YNM is cheesy with a side of corn.

TLG isn't just a regular song, it's a legitimately good song.  YNM is... not.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

I certainly don't "hate" YNM. "Dislike" might also be too strong a word. I just feel it suffers from being a bit bland with a chorus that could have definitely been better and less tedious to listen to.

The song's weaknesses don't lie in it's lack of heaviness or progginess; I really like songs like Hollow Years, right from the same album, that sounded far more commercial and made sure to be at least somewhat memorable.

[Zook]

I don't know, You Not Me is pretty damn memorable to me. How could you forget such a song?

[Jamesman42]

Just Let Me Breathe is worse, and that is saying something.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

I don't know, You Not Me is pretty damn memorable to me. How could you forget such a song?

I'll say that the main riff is pretty nice. In terms of memorability, DT certainly have less memorable songs, but nothing in YNM really sticks out too much to elevate it from just being average at best.

I can clearly see the appeal though. I know a lot of people can really dig that riff and find the chorus super catchy, but it's just not really my cup of tea.

[Sacul]

YNM isn't just a regular song, it's a legitimately good song.  TLG is... not.

Fixed.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

YNM isn't just a regular song, it's a legitimately good song.  TLG is... not.

Fixed.

Why would you fix something that wasn't broken?

[Dream Team]

That long drawn outro of YNM with that "riff" is terrible. And by "riff" I mean of course a terrible excuse for a riff - so it's not just the chorus dragging it down.

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

YNM isn't just a regular song, it's a legitimately good song. So is TLG.

Fixed.

I fixed your fix.

[seasonsinthesky]

if, from the demo arrangement, they had kept the intro, the AMAZING bridge (with the new piano melody/high vox in the back) they dropped altogether, and let the last talking sample continue after the song ended, i would like the song far more. it's really just the bridge — i understand cutting it for a radio edit, but the bridge is supposed to be the best part of the song, and an apparently A-list songwriter got rid of it?

the chorus... i dunno. the original would be a better live idea but neither of them are particularly catchy. with that said, though, the original chorus fits much better with the style DT were playing around the Awake-FII-SFAM eras, which makes the Desmond Child chorus in YNM feel out of place to me.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Never Enough deserves some serious consideration for worst DT song ever recorded on any of their albums.

[Zook]

I used to hold that opinion, but aside from the heavy breathing, it's not all that bad. Prophets of War still holds the Worst Dream Theater Song Ever Award for me.

I mean, YNM is stupid and silly like POW, but YNM doesn't have disco music and rapping.