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Started by liran95, February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM

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liran95

I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?

Tom Bombadil

Everybody was saying this when the song first came out, but I've heard "Know that you're alive" since the first time I listened to it.

liran95

How about "Noble embrace" instead of "Noble and brave"?

Sycsa

That's "no more embrace" according to my ear. :biggrin:


rumborak


XB0BX

O_O

I too thought it was joy in life.

I'm going to keep thinking it's joy in life life.

Nearmyth

I always thought it sounded like "that you're alive." Never heard "joy in life" until I saw it on some lyrics site and went "..What?"

Luckily looking at the album booklet I was relieved to find that it was "you're alive."

Imo it is the better lyric of the two.

Invisible

Quote from: rumborak on February 12, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
I never really look at lyrics. So yeah, I just found this out with this thread. I thought it was "joy in life" too.

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 12, 2014, 03:09:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_aid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enunciation
:lol So true! I love James, but that clearly isn't one of his strenghts. On an off topic, on The Looking Glass I thought he said "You're diggin up a coma" and went WAT? ??? The I saw the lyrics and "Ohhhh, that makes more sense".

Kotowboy

To really feel the joy in life....



...you'll never know that you're alive.





It's both :P

Daso

Quote from: Invisible on February 12, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: rumborak on February 12, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
I never really look at lyrics. So yeah, I just found this out with this thread. I thought it was "joy in life" too.

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 12, 2014, 03:09:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_aid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enunciation
:lol So true! I love James, but that clearly isn't one of his strenghts. On an off topic, on The Looking Glass I thought he said "You're diggin up a coma" and went WAT? ??? The I saw the lyrics and "Ohhhh, that makes more sense".

How can you confuse "coma" with "coal mine?"  ;)

Invisible

By not being a native english speaker with some hearing problems I guess :lol. I always have trouble with lyrics anyway, for any band, years of english studying haven't changed that.

By the way, is it coal mine or gold mine??? :-\

Kotowboy

Gold mine and I actually checked :lol


Invisible

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 12, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Gold mine and I actually checked :lol
Thanks!  :lol For the record, I never really thought he said that, it was more on the lines of "I need a new boss, new lawn, new wig" on Take the Time, something you hear but can't possibly be true :D.

Evermind

I heard "that you're alive" from the first time and this line is great. However, this

Quote from: Sycsa on February 12, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
That's "no more embrace" according to my ear. :biggrin:

is still what I hear everytime. :lol

Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

adastra

Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?


Yeah, Every fucking time x_x

YtseJamittaja

Quote from: adastra on February 12, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?


Yeah, Every fucking time x_x

BlobVanDam

I can't even remember now which one I first thought it was, maybe I heard both, I don't know. :lol

This reminds me of something Ozzy Osbourne said about an interview, where the interviewer was making a point about the negative influence of the music, with the lyric of "I tell you to end your life". Being puzzled by the lyric, Ozzy thought it through and realized he was referring to the line in the song Paranoid that is actually "I tell you to ENJOY life". Bit of a different meaning. :lol


wolfking

Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?

I don't know how anyone could actually think it's the second one.  Even on my first listen without the booklet to me it sounded like 'know that you're alive'. 

hefdaddy42

Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 03:39:29 AM
Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?

I don't know how anyone could actually think it's the second one.  Even on my first listen without the booklet to me it sounded like 'know that you're alive'.
Same here.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

RodrigoAltaf

 All I know is that the final verses of IT kick MAJOR ass. I´m currently on an IT binge, and have been listening to it a couple of times a day.


jakepriest

"No more embrace"
"Never know the JOY IN LIFEEEE"

I really thought those were the lyrics until I heard James sing it live.


RodrigoAltaf

 How about "Hate dividing us, love reminding us...of our share, you manatee!!"

jakepriest

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on February 13, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
How about "Hate dividing us, love reminding us...of our share, you manatee!!"

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Orbert

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 02:22:11 AM
This reminds me of something Ozzy Osbourne said about an interview, where the interviewer was making a point about the negative influence of the music, with the lyric of "I tell you to end your life". Being puzzled by the lyric, Ozzy thought it through and realized he was referring to the line in the song Paranoid that is actually "I tell you to ENJOY life". Bit of a different meaning. :lol

That one is understandable, though, because of the way the word "enjoy" is pronounced.  The syllable accents are messed up because of the way the word fits into the melody.  I've always understood the lyric correctly, but it's always bothered me how it was force-fit into the melody to begin with.  If the words don't fit the meter properly, come up with different words.

Kotowboy

I love the way some singers can bend words to fit. James from Manic Street Preachers & Billie from Green Day to name two.



Shadow Ninja 2.0


BlobVanDam

Quote from: Orbert on February 13, 2014, 01:07:53 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 02:22:11 AM
This reminds me of something Ozzy Osbourne said about an interview, where the interviewer was making a point about the negative influence of the music, with the lyric of "I tell you to end your life". Being puzzled by the lyric, Ozzy thought it through and realized he was referring to the line in the song Paranoid that is actually "I tell you to ENJOY life". Bit of a different meaning. :lol

That one is understandable, though, because of the way the word "enjoy" is pronounced.  The syllable accents are messed up because of the way the word fits into the melody.  I've always understood the lyric correctly, but it's always bothered me how it was force-fit into the melody to begin with.  If the words don't fit the meter properly, come up with different words.

Ah yeah, I never thought about the phrasing, but that does make it fit better with the incorrect lyric better. I've never noticed it until you pointed it out, but it is slightly awkward phrasing. It's not WDADU bad though. :biggrin:

adastra

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on February 13, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
How about "Hate dividing us, love reminding us...of our share, you manatee!!"

I don't know if anyone else thinks this, but The verse where that line is from  isn't very good.. Don't like the lyrics and vocal  melodies (If there even is any melody in them)
But haha,  Never heard that manatee part :D !

liran95

Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 03:39:29 AM
Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?

I don't know how anyone could actually think it's the second one.  Even on my first listen without the booklet to me it sounded like 'know that you're alive'.

First of all, he says "to really feel the joy in life" in the beggining of this movement. So it's not that hard to believe that this phrase would be repeated at the end of the section.
And also it does sounds similiar. "KNOW THATYOUR (=Know the joy) ALIVE (=in life)". Especially when JLB prenounces the "Alive" somewhat like "Ilive".

wolfking

Quote from: liran95 on February 14, 2014, 01:28:19 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 03:39:29 AM
Quote from: liran95 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
I don't know if I'm the only idiot, but I just figured out that in the end of IT, the line is: "Know that you're alive" and not "Know the joy in life".

Cause, man, it sounds like the 2nd one.
Anyone else heard the 2nd one?

I don't know how anyone could actually think it's the second one.  Even on my first listen without the booklet to me it sounded like 'know that you're alive'.

First of all, he says "to really feel the joy in life" in the beggining of this movement. So it's not that hard to believe that this phrase would be repeated at the end of the section.
And also it does sounds similiar. "KNOW THATYOUR (=Know the joy) ALIVE (=in life)". Especially when JLB prenounces the "Alive" somewhat like "Ilive".

Sorry, but it sounds nothing like 'know the joy in life' to me.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.