Sacul's weird and controversial DT Top 50 v. Humanity's masterpice revealed!

[Sycsa]

So great to see IF so high, I see myself putting it in my top 10 as well. "Callow and vain..." is one of my all-time favorite DT sections and the ending is amazing.

[jakepriest]

Surrounded and IF are amazing. LaBrie totally nails both.

TSCO is very overrated.

[Sacul]

Also your top three are YNM, BMUBMD, and PoW.

PoW is at #43 but you are somehow close

"Callow and vain..." is one of my all-time favorite DT sections and the ending is amazing.

Completely agree

Very unique list so far

Thanks!

TSCO is very overrated.

Not for me .

I forgot to update these lists, take this for the pain:

Top 5 songs that should/could be on the top
2- Fatal Tragedy
Maybe in the future, when I'll redo the entire top, I'd include this one. The chorus is amazing, the instrumental section a bit meh but the ending is great.

Top 5 worst DT songs ever
2- A Rite of passage.
Awful. The main riff is disgusting, but the chorus even more and also stupid . Everytime I listen to BC&SL I just skip this track, I can't stand it, dull as hell.  I don't know if Petrucci is a mason (maybe a masonic god) or not, but this song is very deep on DT's catalogue, but only one thing can be worse than this.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I'd like to know when "disgusting" became a positive descriptor. Do people say that about food? "Yeah man, this burger's totally disgusting!"

[ThatOneGuy2112]

I'd like to know when "disgusting" became a positive descriptor. Do people say that about food? "Yeah man, this burger's totally disgusting!"

I don't know about you, but sacul's list so far is pretty disgusting then.

I forgot to update these lists, take this for the pain:

Top 5 worst DT songs ever
2- A Rite of passage.
Awful. The main riff is disgusting, but the chorus is stupid . Everytime I listen to BC&SL I just skip this track, I can't stand it, dull as hell.  I don't know if Petrucci is a mason (maybe a masonic god) or not, but this song is very deep on DT's catalogue, but only one thing can be worse than this.

This one I can get behind. Definitely my least favorite off of Black Clouds. I just find it wildly inconsistent. It has its moments to shine like the riff and Jame's vocal melodies, but it isn't enough to really help it take off since much of the rest never seems to go anywhere (the instrumental section in particular).

To its credit, I do love the chorus.

[425]

It's getting harder for me to comment without giving away the rest of my list, which is why I haven't been saying much, but I will say that you've made a lot of choices I really like recently. However, I think A Rite of Passage is a very good song that is probably in my top 65. And the chorus is the best part...

[Crow]

Yay AROP hate 
The more and more I hear that one the worse it gets. I might have put it too high on my list.

[Tom Bombadil]

I'd like to know when "disgusting" became a positive descriptor. Do people say that about food? "Yeah man, this burger's totally disgusting!"

My brother kept trying to convince me that this is a thing now, but I still have yet to hear anyone else use that term in that way.

[Sycsa]

I'd like to know when "disgusting" became a positive descriptor. Do people say that about food? "Yeah man, this burger's totally disgusting!"

My brother kept trying to convince me that this is a thing now, but I still have yet to hear anyone else use that term in that way.

Well, it works with 'nasty' or 'dirty' and it's just a matter of time before every single world becomes an auto-antonym anyway.

[Prog Snob]

Surrounded and IF are amazing. LaBrie totally nails both.

TSCO is very underrated.

FTFY&M

[jakepriest]

ARoP is amazing (the chorus riff  ) and miles better than Fatal Tragedy imho. Wither is the weakest BC&SL track.

[son_ov_hades]

The Spirit Carries On and Surrounded are incredible, perfect songs. I like Innocence faded, but its way higher than I'd put it. Very interested to see your number one, and I couldn't even try to guess at it.

[mikeyd23]

4- Surrounded
The best track on I&W. It's so beautiful and perfect; I can't see why some people call it cheesy. So many cheesy songs would kill to be like Surrounded. They would like to have an awesome solo, some beautiful keys and a demi-god singer. And no, I don't think LALP ruined it, that was CiM.

Well said, I totally agree!

Your list has been really interesting, looking forward to seeing your top 3!

[Laughingplace56]

4- Surrounded
And no, I don't think LALP ruined it, that was CiM.

Agreed 100%. I like Petrucci's solo and JR's intro on CiM, but the mixing of that live album and James' voice are so terrible I hate just about every song on that album. Surrounded and TSCO on LALP sound a little less emotional and somewhat artificial compared to the studio version and Score version, respectively.

[Sacul]

Thanks guys for the support! You may be surprised with the top 3 Before today's update, I'll finish the remaining lists.

Top 5 worst songs ever

1- The Dark Eternal Crap Night
Awful, disgusting, dull, abominable, nasty, dreadful. I don't get why DT composed this. This song deserves the stake. I don't like anything on this, even when the chorus and the instrumental section aren't so bad. Also, those growls and distorted voices make it even worse, because I really hate Death Metal (that's why Damnation is my fav Opeth album ).

Honorable mentions:
Stream of Conciousness
Panick Attack

Top 5 songs that could/should be on this top

1- 6:00
What a cool tune. From the initial drum fill till the end is great. It was on my list for a few days but I replaced it when I heard the TAMP demo. I hope the band plays it on this tour!

[Crow]

YAY
BOO
okay.
I hate TDEN too! Your worst list overlaps with mine in the bottom three, is cool.
6:00 is wonderful though :c

[jakepriest]

TDEN is great. 

[Tom Bombadil]

Agree with TDEN. 6:00 should've made the list, so I'm ok with you placing it #1 on "Should've made the list"

And I hate SOC and Panic Attack too, so we have very similar tastes

[son_ov_hades]

The Dark Eternal Night is easily the worst Dream Theater song, what a load of fuck. Nothing about it is death metal though, and nothing about Opeth is death metal either.

[Lucien]

It's a fun song, for me at least.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

The Dark Eternal Night is easily the worst Dream Theater song, what a load of fuck. Nothing about it is death metal though, and nothing about Opeth is death metal either.

wat

[Sycsa]

I'm not a metal guy by a long shot, came to DT from a '70s progrock background, thus pretty much despised TDEN at first, but it grew immensely on me and I'd easily put it in my top 50 now. It's just so much fun. The chorus, the drumming and the instrumental section are huge. 

[ThatOneGuy2112]

I find TDEN actually quite listenable. It's probably mid-tier when it comes to SC. I never really understood the immense hate it gets. There are bits I really do like, for example, the chorus being just killer. I will say SC has so much better to offer though.

[Laughingplace56]

TDEN, much like Constant Motion, is a very fun song. Not top 50 material, but fun to listen to. I hated it the first time i listened to it, but it grew on me. I'm also very much into metal and not just Progressive Rock/Metal.

[Sacul]

Ok guys, time to unveil the lon-awaited top 3!

3- You Not Me
This track has such a gorgeous atmosphere and lots of swag. It's brilliant, specially the chorus, one of my all-time favs. The guitar solo is  . Even better than that crap of You or Me .

2- Burning My Soul
I love the intro and the way it builds up to the first verse is amazing. The keyboard solo by Sherinian is fucking awesome, better that anything Rudess has ever made in his entire life; I don't know why they hired him.  Anyways, I could sing "Burning my sooooooooooouuul" all day long. The diversity, awesome songwriting and epicness is only beaten by the following track.

1- Build me Up, Break Me Down
Dream Theater's magnum opus. The shinning star in a dull album. The centerpiece of every setlist. A must-listen for every progger. The beauty and epicness of the chorus is unbeatable; one of the best creations of humanity. Suck it, Octavarium.

I hope you have enjoyed this list so far.

[Outcrier]

[bl5150]

Well done - can't say I agreed with much of it but enjoyed following...........

[425]

TDEN is awesome though...

And so crazy! Your top three is exactly the same as mine!

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

incredible finish

[Crow]

ehh got two out of three right.

worst list on DTF officially 

[tuto]

But whats wrong with Build me up break me down ? I fucking adore that song!

[Crow]

It's the worst DT song. Not a huuuuge problem I guess

[JiM-Xtreme]

Are you joking?

[son_ov_hades]

The Dark Eternal Night is easily the worst Dream Theater song, what a load of fuck. Nothing about it is death metal though, and nothing about Opeth is death metal either.

wat

Opeth is prog metal that has harsh vocals. Death metal is bands like Possessed, Obituary, Cannibal Corpse, Decapitated, and Morbid Angel; Opeth is nothing like those bands. Harsh vocals =/= death metal

[jakepriest]

I like Burning My Soul and BMU,BMD.