Behind the Veil

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Quote from: yeah_93 on July 08, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Enalya on July 08, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
Gotta love how he sings 'hour'

:>

BTV is good enough, but it's not really special for me somehow.. What I mostly like about the song are these 10 seconds: 5:40 - 5:50 ::)
Gotta love headbanging to that section.
I had to go and listen and this is exactly the section I enjoy most about this song.  I'd like to see JP breakout in a jam following this part. :metal

ThatOneGuy2112

BTV is fantastic. There honestly isn't any section of it that falls flat and it's definitely a modern DT classic if I ever heard one. Gotta be the best song on DT12 (aside from IT).

Shadow Ninja 2.0

Behind The Veil is my favorite DT12 song.

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

I don't know if I'd call it my favorite, but it was at one time. I love everything about this song. The intro, Mangini's drum part (especially from 3:28 to 3:50), the solo, vocals, riffs, everything. It's just wonderful. According to LastFM it's tied with ES and TGD for 5th most listened DT track. That's not completely accurate because I listened to DT for quite a while before getting the scrobbler app, but still.
Local authority on over-intellectualizing.

Nearmyth

Middle of the pack in DT12 for me, but there's really nothing bad about it. Maybe except how the first verse sounds exactly like TROAE. Besides that, great song. It has the best guitar solo on the album, in my opinion.

mikeyd23

Love this track, its probably a top 2 song off of DT12 (IT being number 1).  :metal

bosk1

Quote from: Enalya on July 08, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
Gotta love how he sings 'hour'

:>

BTV is good enough, but it's not really special for me somehow.. What I mostly like about the song are these 10 seconds: 5:40 - 5:50 ::)

Yeah.  For me, I would say it starts at 5:32.  Leading up to that, it is sort of a "typical" JP guitar solo.  It is tasteful, well-executed, and a lot of cool stuff going on, but nothing that really stands out to me above any of his other solos.  Then that chord change underneath the solo hits at 5:32, and the entire tone of the solo changes and it quickly ramps up into high gear and turns into something truly special.  I LOVE it!


bosk1


dparrott

Surprised no one has gotten creative with the stems yet.   There were plenty of remixes of BC&SL songs.

yeah_93

I only saw the guitar, lead, and drums stems on Youtube.

Grizz

I think that the volume of remixes is entirely dependent on p2p availability.
Of course I wouldn't know how much illegal circulation there is.

Sycsa

The whole song is great, both structurally and melodically, but the "can you see the stranger..." and the end of the guitar solo stand out as pivotal moments.

gmillerdrake

I watched 'Prometheus' again last night and it just confirmed for me what I had thought the first time I heard 'Behind the Veil'.......the intro. soundtrack on the movie as the camera is gliding through the many landscapes of a distant Earth......sounds eerily familiar to the first minute of 'BTV'

Opening soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgfDnflqMGA



yeah...neah??

The Letter M

Quote from: gmillerdrake on December 22, 2014, 11:33:23 AM
I watched 'Prometheus' again last night and it just confirmed for me what I had thought the first time I heard 'Behind the Veil'.......the intro. soundtrack on the movie as the camera is gliding through the many landscapes of a distant Earth......sounds eerily familiar to the first minute of 'BTV'

Opening soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgfDnflqMGA



yeah...neah??

"Yay or nay?" I say thee, NAY!

Seriously though, not really, but I can see why someone *might* think that.

-Marc.

Dublagent66

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on November 24, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
The intro is amazing, as is the rest of the song. They blend just fine.

This.  I believe it's the best song on the album.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: gmillerdrake on December 22, 2014, 11:33:23 AM
I watched 'Prometheus' again last night and it just confirmed for me what I had thought the first time I heard 'Behind the Veil'.......the intro. soundtrack on the movie as the camera is gliding through the many landscapes of a distant Earth......sounds eerily familiar to the first minute of 'BTV'

Opening soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgfDnflqMGA



yeah...neah??
Not really.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Rodni Demental

Quote from: dparrott on July 09, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Surprised no one has gotten creative with the stems yet.   There were plenty of remixes of BC&SL songs.

Probably cause they're not so easily available. Seriously, how do you even get the stems for DT12 unless you use Jammit? BC&SL had the stripped down instrumentals (vocaless of course, but also missing the lead instrumentals). It also came with all the stems for each instrument so a lot more people ended up having access to them and messed with them. eg. BC&SL stems are the only ones I have. ADTOE had the instrumentals aswell which were proper instrumentals with the lead instrumentals present as opposed to the BC&SL 'backing tracks'. But I'm not so sure if we got the stems for ADTOE in a s similar way because I didn't get the special edition of that one.

Going off on a tangent here but I was kidna disappointed we didn't get instrumental versions this time, I think it's a nice optional extra. Nothing against the vocals, but as a fairly obsessive listener, I like to hear all the details so I find it fascinating to hear all the subtle nuances on the instruments that otherwise loose your attention and end up blending into the background due to an overlying melody.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Rodni Demental on December 25, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
BC&SL had the stripped down instrumentals (vocaless of course, but also missing the lead instrumentals). It also came with all the stems for each instrument so a lot more people ended up having access to them and messed with them.
I thought there were vocal stems for that album, also.  That's how people were able to do so many remixes of various songs.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

YtseJamittaja

Quote from: Rodni Demental on December 25, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
Quote from: dparrott on July 09, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Surprised no one has gotten creative with the stems yet.   There were plenty of remixes of BC&SL songs.

Probably cause they're not so easily available. Seriously, how do you even get the stems for DT12 unless you use Jammit? BC&SL had the stripped down instrumentals (vocaless of course, but also missing the lead instrumentals). It also came with all the stems for each instrument so a lot more people ended up having access to them and messed with them. eg. BC&SL stems are the only ones I have. ADTOE had the instrumentals aswell which were proper instrumentals with the lead instrumentals present as opposed to the BC&SL 'backing tracks'. But I'm not so sure if we got the stems for ADTOE in a s similar way because I didn't get the special edition of that one.

Going off on a tangent here but I was kidna disappointed we didn't get instrumental versions this time, I think it's a nice optional extra. Nothing against the vocals, but as a fairly obsessive listener, I like to hear all the details so I find it fascinating to hear all the subtle nuances on the instruments that otherwise loose your attention and end up blending into the background due to an overlying melody.

Behind the Veil stems are available in the superduper deluxe edition as a bonus. On the Backs of Angels stems were available on the net after the release of ADTOE for the album owners.

Max Fedorov

Hi, I have my version of 'Behind the Veil', however Soundcloud refuses to upload it because of copyright infringement, I guess other file hosting websites will do the same. Personally, I think it's fair use because I don't have any profit out of it.

What is the correct way to post the file without offending anyone?

Architeuthis

Love this song!!! The part where James sings "when the lightning strikes" gives me chills, and it has a different meaning for me. Our house got struck by lightning just two days before I bought DT12,  it was like iron maidens Ed Force one dropped a bomb on the rooftop! It freaked us the hell out and destroyed all our electronics, and literally blew plaster off our walls. We were without power for four days. I listened to the new DT album on a small battery powered ghetto blaster for a while. 

Sycsa

Quote from: Max Fedorov on February 26, 2015, 12:35:38 AM
Hi, I have my version of 'Behind the Veil', however Soundcloud refuses to upload it because of copyright infringement, I guess other file hosting websites will do the same. Personally, I think it's fair use because I don't have any profit out of it.

What is the correct way to post the file without offending anyone?
Roadrunner Records has uploaded it to YouTube anyway.

Anguyen92

Quote from: Rodni Demental on December 25, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
Going off on a tangent here but I was kidna disappointed we didn't get instrumental versions this time, I think it's a nice optional extra. Nothing against the vocals, but as a fairly obsessive listener, I like to hear all the details so I find it fascinating to hear all the subtle nuances on the instruments that otherwise loose your attention and end up blending into the background due to an overlying melody.

Pretty late to make this comment, but yeah, I'm sad we didn't get the instrumental versions as well.  I would have loved to try to sing Behind the Veil or go for broke and try Illumination Theory or The Bigger Picture.  Such a shame.

Max Fedorov

Quote from: Sycsa on February 26, 2015, 07:12:44 AM
Quote from: Max Fedorov on February 26, 2015, 12:35:38 AM
Hi, I have my version of 'Behind the Veil', however Soundcloud refuses to upload it because of copyright infringement, I guess other file hosting websites will do the same. Personally, I think it's fair use because I don't have any profit out of it.

What is the correct way to post the file without offending anyone?
Roadrunner Records has uploaded it to YouTube anyway.

Ok, I'll just leave this right here:

https://youtu.be/jzsHgBz1ZOk

Podaar