DT Music Theory Thread

[Lucien]

Random note: my favorite part of TCoT is the delicious part where you have 3 measures of 9/8 and 2 measures of 4/4.

Ohhhhh yes, that IS delicious. Except it would be three measures of 9/8 and two measures of 4/8, or 9/4 and 4/4.

That is correct.

9/8 then 4/8 makes sense.

Yeah the tempo is quick enough for /8 to be a much better choice than /4, imo.

When I first read your comment I thought you said That is incorrect. And I was really confused because you then immediately said one of my assertions was correct. But then I reread it and I was like hahaha!

[Cruithne]

Long story short, a "9" at the top of the time signature implies compound time ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_time#Compound_meter )

The rule is that a multiple of 3 over an 8 means compound time.

9/4 isn't compound time. 9/8 is.

The drummer of my last band used to drive me nuts by insisting that 6/8 songs were in 3! Grr.

No, there is nothing special about the eighth note that makes 9/8 compound time and 9/4 simple time.

https://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-simple-and-compound-time-signatures.navId-380613.html
https://www.musictheory.net/lessons/15

Also have a look at chapter 2 of this public domain music theory textbook:  https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6gHBiL6SDOKcjhnQTNYdGJUNFE&usp=sharing

Fair enough. Looks like I was taught badly as a kid when I was learning theory

[The Boomr]

Haha we've all had that one really horrible theory teacher ^_^

[Lucien]

Haha we've all had that one really horrible theory teacher ^_^

God I hope my theory professor in college is good

[The Boomr]

Haha we've all had that one really horrible theory teacher ^_^

God I hope my theory professor in college is good

Well, you can always come here if he (or she) sucks!!

[Polis]

Can someone give an analysis of The Enemy Inside? Time signature, key, whatever.

My Time Signature analysis:

From the beginning to 0:40, it's all 4/4

From 0:40-0:54, it goes (4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 9/8, 7/8)x2, 4/4

0:54-2:14 is all 4/4

The instrumental break after chorus 1 (2:14-2:32), it goes 4/4, 5/4, 4/4x3, 5/4, 4/4, 6/4, 4/4x2

2:32-4:15 is all 4/4


Solo section:

4:15-4:30 is the same as the instrumental break after chorus 1 without the two bars of 4 at the end (so 4/4, 5/4, 4/4x3, 5/4, 4/4, 6/4)

4:30-4:43 is 5/4x2, 4/4x5 (This could be different, it depends on how you feel it in your head. Specifically referring to the beat pattern @ 4:36-4:41 is 123,123,12; could be felt differently than 4/4)

4:43-4:54 is 2/4, 3/16, 3/4, 2/4, 3/16, 4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 3/4, 4/4x2

4:54-5:12 is (4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 9/8, 7/8)x2, 4/4x3 (same as 0:40-0:54)

5:12-6:07 is all 4/4

6:08-6:10 (the last two bars of the song) are 3/4, 3/16, 4/4


Obviously none of this is written in stone, but this is how I interpreted it. There could be mistakes as well, of course. Anyways, that was quite the endeavor. Lots of fun though


Edit: Changed the 10/8's to 5/4's as per Mosh's correction.

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[Laich21DT]

Can someone give an analysis of The Enemy Inside? Time signature, key, whatever.

My Time Signature analysis:

From the beginning to 0:40, it's all 4/4

From 0:40-0:54, it goes (4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 9/8, 7/8)x2, 4/4

0:54-2:14 is all 4/4

The instrumental break after chorus 1 (2:14-2:32), it goes 4/4, 5/4, 4/4x3, 5/4, 4/4, 6/4, 4/4x2

2:32-4:15 is all 4/4


Solo section:

4:15-4:30 is the same as the instrumental break after chorus 1 without the two bars of 4 at the end (so 4/4, 5/4, 4/4x3, 5/4, 4/4, 6/4)

4:30-4:43 is 5/4x2, 4/4x5 (This could be different, it depends on how you feel it in your head. Specifically referring to the beat pattern @ 4:36-4:41 is 123,123,12; could be felt differently than 4/4)

4:43-4:54 is 2/4, 3/16, 3/4, 2/4, 3/16, 4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 3/4, 4/4x2

4:54-5:12 is (4/4, 2/4, 3/16, 9/8, 7/8)x2, 4/4x3 (same as 0:40-0:54)

5:12-6:07 is all 4/4

6:08-6:10 (the last two bars of the song) are 3/4, 3/16, 4/4


Obviously none of this is written in stone, but this is how I interpreted it. There could be mistakes as well, of course. Anyways, that was quite the endeavor. Lots of fun though


Edit: Changed the 10/8's to 5/4's as per Mosh's correction.

Damn dude, thanks.