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Top 5 LEAST listened songs?

Started by nicbor87, May 27, 2013, 01:53:39 AM

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Rattlehead

Not including WDADU...

Build Me Up, Break Me Down
You Not Me
Just Let Me Breathe
Never Enough
I Walk Beside You

wasteland

It's not really like that. I mean, I have listened to snippets of CM since the beginning of my fandom (almost 5 years ago) and was always thrown off by them.  When I finally decided to listen through it I regretted doing so.

The Letter M

For the people not listing "Raw Dog", do you honestly listen to it more than the five songs you list, or have you just forgotten the song existed?! Because I would find it funny if people listened to "Raw Dog" more than many of the songs you guys have listed so far. :rollin

-Marc.

KevShmev

I only considered songs on the studio albums, so any of the FII outtakes, Raw Dog, etc. were not up for consideration for me.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: KevShmev on May 27, 2013, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 27, 2013, 02:59:19 AM


Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
I'm not sure if I've ever listened to this song the whole way through. It's not a bad song by any means, I just don't find it very interesting, and it's sandwiched between songs I don't like, so it gets overlooked. Plus it's got the whole U2 thing going on, which puts me off.

Space Dye Vest
Same as above. I know I've given this song more of a chance than LSOAD, but I'm still not sure if I've ever made it through the song. Maybe once.

Scarred
I've listened to this song maybe once the whole way through, and listened to sections here and there for the sake of discussion. So at a stretch I'd say I've listened to it twice completely, but I've definitely listened to snippets more often.




Wait, so you trash these songs on a regular basis, but you've never really listened to any of them from start to finish?  OMG, that is rich. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

I really shouldn't bother to dignify you with an answer considering your attitude towards me, but whatever.

I said the whole way through, as in from start to finish in one go, as opposed to bits here and there. I'm not counting times I've skimmed a song, or all the times I've attempted to listen to the song, then stopped. I've listened to each individual section countless times, and I've attempted to listen through it at least a dozen times. By half way into a song, if it's that bad every single time I listen to it, there's nothing in the second half that's gonna redeem it for me.
I've in fact tried to listen to Scarred and SDV plenty of times over the years (especially Scarred). And I listen to individual sections regularly when having discussion about the songs (which if you read my posts would see I have plenty of specific comments about every section of Scarred, from start to the very finish).

It's not like I listen to a song once, decide it's crap, then that's it. If I listen to a song a couple of times and I'm indifferent to it, I'll continue listening to it and see if it grows on me. But if a song is so bad that after a dozen attempts I can't even make it entirely through a song because it's that bad to my ears, there really comes a point where you have to admit it's just not a good song, so just not listen to it. You can't force yourself to like something, especially when it's a case of actively hating every single musical decision a song has made.

LSOAD is the one song on my list I'd say I haven't given a legitimate chance. And as I said, I don't think the song is bad, I just overlook it because of its placement on the album, and the style. The other two I have given more than a fair chance. If the CD didn't have "Dream Theater" written on it, I wouldn't have given them nearly as many chances as I have.

I don't care if you want to continue to nitpick semantics over that. I've given the songs more than enough chances, and I have a perfectly valid opinion on the songs, and no amount of silly mocking rolling laughing emoticons from you will invalidate that.


Quote from: The Letter M on May 27, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
For the people not listing "Raw Dog", do you honestly listen to it more than the five songs you list, or have you just forgotten the song existed?! Because I would find it funny if people listened to "Raw Dog" more than many of the songs you guys have listed so far. :rollin

-Marc.

1. I forgot about it because it's not on an album.
2. I wasn't counting non-album tracks anyway.
3. Let's just assume it's a default on everyone's list.

wasteland

I listened to the outtakes much more often than to the songs I listed, but I decided to skip Raw Dog to save a meaningful place for some other songs.

?

I don't pay attention to how many times I listen to each song, but I don't recall ever listening to these songs much outside of their respective albums because they're so boring:

Anna Lee
The Best of Times
Repentance

I know it's just 3, but it would've been hard to pick more. My bottom 5 DT songs overall are the following:

Raw Dog (I think I've listened to this song only 2-4 times, it gives me a headache and I like to pretend it doesn't exist)
Where Are You Now? (James' worst studio vocal performance ever and some really poor melodies)
The Dark Eternal Night (some of the most generic metal riffing I've ever heard, the distorted vocals are lame and the instrumental section is unlistenable)
Never Enough (no explanation needed)
New Millennium (cool intro, too bad the rest of the song is pretty terrible)

yorost

Quote from: The Letter M on May 27, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
For the people not listing "Raw Dog", do you honestly listen to it more than the five songs you list, or have you just forgotten the song existed?! Because I would find it funny if people listened to "Raw Dog" more than many of the songs you guys have listed so far. :rollin

-Marc.
Given some of us have pointed it out, I assume many people just ignored anything not on a studio album.

Lucien

What's wrong with Never Enough besides the fact that it's just Portnoy being Portnoy?

What do people not like about Octavarium in general?

Big Hath

Burning My Soul
Take Away My Pain
Disappear
Vacant


that's about it for DT songs I don't really care for/skip most often

Scorpion

#45
Quote from: Lucien on May 27, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
What do people not like about Octavarium in general?

Since Octavarium is really well liked, I'm somewhat in the minority here, but here's my beef with it:

- The first two parts are quite cool, though the intro could have been cut or at least shortened. I would understand it if it would change mood after that, but after three minutes of intro, the vocals kick in, without the mood changing a bit. No thanks. :tdwn
- Full Circle is full of wordplay that's supposed to be clever when it's... not. Plus, it's very similar, musically to Intervals, which is much better. Another wasted part.
- Intervals is amazing. Many people rag on the unison, but I quite like it, and the vocal climax ("Trapped inside this OC-TA-VA-RI-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!") is amazing. The problem: the song doesn't end there, but goes on another three minutes, going through the most overrated solo in the whole DT catalogue. So many people rate it as one of DT's best solos and I. just. don't. see. it. To me, it's completely unimaginative and boring. And no, that's not because it's not shreddy, but because it doesn't explore ANY new ground throughout. It's just a rehash, and a drawn out one at that, of themes that have already been used to death.

So yeah. On the whole, I enjoy... 2 out of 5 parts of the song? Not exactly a great quota, and the fact that the song is so long means that I practically never listen to it, even though it's not really in my bottom 10 songs or so.

EDIT: If you're talking about the album, it's pretty much dreck throughout. Only TROAE and SS are good songs, the rest just falls flat. IWBY, TALW and NE all just sound so uninspired and boring.

Nekov

Quote from: Lucien on May 27, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
What do people not like about Octavarium in general?

I have no problem with the song itself but the rest of the album I can't listen to. Maybe panic attack from time to time but that's it and it has nothing to do with the song-writing or the lyrics, it's just that I can't stand how the album sounds. Jordan Keyboards and JP's distortion kill it and again, not because of the execution but because of the sound they produce.

Rattlehead

#47
Quote from: The Letter M on May 27, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
For the people not listing "Raw Dog", do you honestly listen to it more than the five songs you list, or have you just forgotten the song existed?! Because I would find it funny if people listened to "Raw Dog" more than many of the songs you guys have listed so far. :rollin

-Marc.
Quote from: KevShmev on May 27, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
I only considered songs on the studio albums, so any of the FII outtakes, Raw Dog, etc. were not up for consideration for me.

Oh and as for 8vm (I assume Lucien was referring to the entire album), I just find most of it very bland and uninspired. Aside from IWBY, most of the songs are tolerable to me, I just can't find many reasons why I'd ever want to listen to them again aside from 8vm, TROAE and maybe Panic Attack, but it's been several months since I've listened to those songs as well.

Elite

A Nightmare to Remember
A Rite of Passage
The Count of Tuscany
I Walk Beside You
Honor Thy Father

It was hard choosing rather than just saying 'all of BC&SL save Wither, all of Octavarium save Root and title-track and all of Train of Thought, save Vacant and SoC'.
I could also have listed most of ADTOE, sice it contains by far the most songs I have listened to the least overall, but I think the above 5 songs are the ones I'm LEAST likely to put on, although I barely listen to DT at all anyway.
And for the record, I have never heard Raw Dog in full, so I didn't count it here.
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The Letter M

Quote from: KevShmev on May 27, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
I only considered songs on the studio albums, so any of the FII outtakes, Raw Dog, etc. were not up for consideration for me.

If that were true, aside from some WDADU songs, I couldn't include anything on here because when I listen to DT, I normally listen to the whole album, especially if I am actively listening. Even if it's just in the background, I'm still playing the whole album (and in some cases, whole album + related B-sides).

-Marc.

Lowdz

Constant Motion

TDEN- can't even bring myself to type it's full title.  :tdwn

Repentence- boring. And DT shouldn't ever be boring.

And side one of SDOIT doesn't get played much, so

Blind Faith- not sure why- just that the first side of the album never really clicked with me.

The Great Debate- That intro goes on too long and I just can't get through it too often.




DebraKadabra

Space-Dye Vest
Sacrificed Sons
Constant Motion
Anna Lee
You Not Me
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

RuRoRul

WDADU
Regression
Through Her Eyes
Through My Words
Take Away My Pain

Lucien

Quote from: Rattlehead on May 27, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
Oh and as for 8vm (I assume Lucien was referring to the entire album), I just find most of it very bland and uninspired. Aside from IWBY, most of the songs are tolerable to me, I just can't find many reasons why I'd ever want to listen to them again aside from 8vm, TROAE and maybe Panic Attack, but it's been several months since I've listened to those songs as well.

My favorite song besides Octavarium on the album is These Walls, which nobody talks about.

GasparXR

I most often listen to entire albums, so this is a little difficult for me to remember how often I've listened to each song.

In no particular order:

You Not Me
Status Seeker
Where Are You Now
The Way It Used to Be
Light Fuse and Get Away

jhonvictor

Outcry - I just don't like this song, really, it's instrumental parts seems TOO forced and not original.
Vacant - "Meh" Song
Lifting Shadows off a Dream - I just don't listen to it alot, but a great song.
Prophets of War - A "meh" song.
Finally Free - Except for the story, the song itself has nothing outstanding.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Lucien on May 27, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
Quote from: Rattlehead on May 27, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
Oh and as for 8vm (I assume Lucien was referring to the entire album), I just find most of it very bland and uninspired. Aside from IWBY, most of the songs are tolerable to me, I just can't find many reasons why I'd ever want to listen to them again aside from 8vm, TROAE and maybe Panic Attack, but it's been several months since I've listened to those songs as well.

My favorite song besides Octavarium on the album is These Walls, which nobody talks about.

These Walls is quite possibly my favourite on the album, even over the title track. Beautifully written song, and so tasteful. :tup

liran95

WDADU
Burning My Soul
The Dark Eternal Night
Constant Motion
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream

?

Quote from: Lucien on May 27, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
What do people not like about Octavarium in general?
My problem with Octavarium is that it feels like they put more effort into the nuggets and paying tribute to other bands than writing some actually unique and solid songs - of course DT's influences have always been visible but on 8V MP's "let's sound like band x" mentality went too far and as a result the album sounds kind of uninspired. I love TROAE and These Walls, and Sacrificed Sons is good, but I don't care about the rest of the album (and in NE's case I dislike the song).

Ruba

ADTOE
I'm cheating too! It just didn't grab me so much I wanted to listen it over and over. Some quality songs though, like OTBOA, BITS, FFH and BAI.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
I find it a bit difficult to sit through, because it's too long. 25 minutes would easily be enough.

The Ministry of Lost Souls
I really like the ballad-y parts, but the instrumental section doesn't do it for me.

A Rite of Passage
Meeeeeeeeeh.  :P

Through My Words
Never listen outside SFAM.

Marion Crane

Not including WDADU...

Anna Lee
Scarred
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
I Walk Beside You
Repentance

KevShmev

Quote from: ? on May 27, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Lucien on May 27, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
What do people not like about Octavarium in general?
My problem with Octavarium is that it feels like they put more effort into the nuggets and paying tribute to other bands than writing some actually unique and solid songs - of course DT's influences have always been visible but on 8V MP's "let's sound like band x" mentality went too far and as a result the album sounds kind of uninspired. I love TROAE and These Walls, and Sacrificed Sons is good, but I don't care about the rest of the album (and in NE's case I dislike the song).

I think a problem is that the album overall sounds like a reaction to the heavy criticism Train of Thought got, kind of like, "Okay, some thought ToT was too heavy and too wank-happy, so we'll go in the opposite direction, crank up the prog and tone down the solos."  That could have worked had the songwriting been great, but aside from the title track, it wasn't.  This is just my opinion, but I can't find a three-song stretch on any other DT album as snooze-worthy as The Answer Lies Within, These Walls and I Walk Beside You.  None of those songs are bad, and all have some nice things going on, but they are just lacking.  Throw in the most uninspired 10-minute plus song they have ever done (Sacrificed Sons), the token metal song (Panic Attack), a song with awful lyrics (Never Enough) and an album opener that is merely good (The Root of All Evil), and it is easy to see why I consider this one of their two least best records to date.

Lucien

Well I just hope that the new album turns out better than anything we've seen in the past 10+ years.

I've heard people say that ADToE was the best thing since Six Degrees.

Nekov

Quote from: Lowdz on May 27, 2013, 02:10:36 PM
Blind Faith- not sure why- just that the first side of the album never really clicked with me.

:omg: :o :omg:

That's how surprised I am by that choice

Lowdz

#64
Quote from: Nekov on May 28, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 27, 2013, 02:10:36 PM
Blind Faith- not sure why- just that the first side of the album never really clicked with me.

:omg: :o :omg:

That's how surprised I am by that choice

I know. I love the title track. Just never really get the urge to listen to side 1. Love Misunderstood and Disappear, love much of TGD but that intro and outro... too much. TGP is ok. I think it's the modern metal production that puts me off. I do like BF but just don't often listen to it.

GasparXR

Quote from: Lucien on May 28, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Well I just hope that the new album turns out better than anything we've seen in the past 10+ years.

I've heard people say that ADToE was the best thing since Six Degrees.

I did think that, but my love for SDOIT overshadows it now. I'd say it's the best since, and is rougly on par with ToT and 8V, middle of the pack for me.

Zydar

Quote from: Lucien on May 28, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
I've heard people say that ADToE was the best thing since Six Degrees.

I was one of them, and to me it still applies.

BlobVanDam

I'd only place ADTOE above one of the post-SDOIT albums (BCASL), and at best 7th overall.
It doesn't even come close to TOT or Octavarium to me, let alone SDOIT, and I still listen to SC and BCASL more than ADTOE, despite them being inconsistent. I haven't listened to ADTOE since 2011, since we're on the topic of "least listened to". I'm hoping and expecting that DT12 will have more longevity. :tup

nicbor87

Thanks for the feedback everyone!   :D
What is it that people dislike about BCSL so much? It's one of my favorite albums (after SFAM, but on a level with IAW and Awake), but that's probably because i have nostalgia attached to it (its the album that introduced me to DT, particulary NTR).

Also, what makes Never Enough worse than, say, These Walls?I understand it sounds like Muse, but These Walls sounds like an extended Linkin Park song and it's not seeing as much critism..

Full Speed

Just Let Me Breathe
I Walk Beside You
Repentance
The Ministry of Lost Souls
The Best of Times