DT in the studio again!

[Lucien]

IF this is a concept album...

Edward's remorse for murdering the two is the "enemy inside"

"I'm running from the enemy inside
Searching for the life I left behind
These suffocating memories
Are etched upon my mind
And I can't escape from the enemy inside"

[ResultsMayVary]

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I really doubt that it's a concept album. Concept albums need titles.

[Mister Gold]

I really doubt that it's a concept album. Concept albums need titles.

Unless the band is being so progressive that they're deliberately making a concept album that's self-titled.

But in all seriousness, you're probably right.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I really doubt that it's a concept album. Concept albums need titles.

Unless the band is being so progressive that they're deliberately making a concept album that's self-titled.

But in all seriousness, you're probably right.

Yeah, it could be a concept about the band themselves. 

[rumborak]

Sooooo, I don't think we have overanalyzed the album title enough yet.
Given that this album is " Dream Theater" and not any of the ones before, does that mean this album is the "true" Dream Theater? That is, more than in previous personnel configurations?

[Lucidity]

I'd love to see DT to truly embrace their prog side and finally have an album with several short unaccompanied songs, like a short piano or acoustic song, ala Yes' Mood for a Day, The Flower Kings' If 28 or Rush's Hope.  They sort of did that on SFAM by having Through My Words, except that that had some singing, too.  It could give an album a more cohesive and better flow by having several transitional pieces like those that act as sort of a brief comedown between two 10-minute plus tunes.

I'd much rather have an album where every song is equally strong, maybe more like Train of Thought, than something with more transitional tracks, which is something DT hasn't done a lot of (and I'm glad they haven't).

[JRuivo]

I hope the so called 'new direction' really shows some influence from Meshuggah and all the "chugging" bands Petrucci is a fan of (Veil of Maya, Periphery). I'm not wanting this to be the main metal genre present on the album, but some influence on the riffs and polirythms would be awesome, since JP apparently loves that stuff

[Dark Castle]

But Train of Thought is bad???

[DeanTheater]

Just give me a mix of Heavy melody ala TCOT and BAI with instrumental wizardy thrown in for good measure and I will be elated!  Cannot wait for this release

[KevShmev]

I'd love to see DT to truly embrace their prog side and finally have an album with several short unaccompanied songs, like a short piano or acoustic song, ala Yes' Mood for a Day, The Flower Kings' If 28 or Rush's Hope.  They sort of did that on SFAM by having Through My Words, except that that had some singing, too.  It could give an album a more cohesive and better flow by having several transitional pieces like those that act as sort of a brief comedown between two 10-minute plus tunes.

I'd much rather have an album where every song is equally strong, maybe more like Train of Thought, than something with more transitional tracks, which is something DT hasn't done a lot of (and I'm glad they haven't).

They can still have an album with all strong tracks, while still having transitional tracks.  The greater good is often more important, and if an album flows better and works better, I say go for it. 

Think of it like an action movie: you don't want every scene in the movie to be non-stop action. You need scenes that bring it down a bit, that way, when the action scenes do kick in, they have more punch (instead of just action after action after action).  Same way with an album, where ebb and flow can make an album that much better.

[Implode]

JP said that this is their broadest and most cohesive expression yet.

Aren't those opposites? 

[Lucien]

I really doubt that it's a concept album. Concept albums need titles.

What if Metropolis Pt. 3 is a SONG from this album, and the album after this is Metropolis Pt. 4?

[Kotowboy]

Waiting for MP to start a death metal band called Necropolis.

First CD : Necropolis part 1 : The Diabolical and the Eternal Sleeper.


Album Cover :

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I really doubt that it's a concept album. Concept albums need titles.

What if Metropolis Pt. 3 is a SONG from this album, and the album after this is Metropolis Pt. 4?

I be down for that. Though to be honest, I don't really care if they ever do a concept again. They've made ten great albums without concepts.

[Zook]

Waiting for MP to start a death metal band called Necropolis.

First CD : Necropolis part 1 : The Diabolical and the Eternal Sleeper.


Album Cover :

Is that the band name? If so, they need to try a little harder. I can still read it.

[Big Hath]

Sooooo, I don't think we have overanalyzed the album title enough yet.
Given that this album is " Dream Theater" and not any of the ones before, does that mean this album is the "true" Dream Theater? That is, more than in previous personnel configurations?

kinda Pink Floyd-In the Flesh vibes

[dparrott]

I just realized that both Blur and Metallica's 5th albums were self-titled.  Both were musical turning points and some of their most successful. 

[The Trooper]

So, can anyone CSI the music on Mangini's drums? LOl

[darkshade]

Somewhere in this thread (I think, there's been much discussion today) someone said in Take The Time, in the beginning of the first verse with the samples, it is Frank Zappa who says "wait a minute", and sounds like it's from Dancin' Fol ("Wait a minute, let me guess, you're an Italian").
I NEVER KNEW THAT WAS FRANK!!!! THANK YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE!!!

[dparrott]

I know where two of those TTT samples are from, now I know a third.

[j]

an album where every song is equally strong, maybe more like Train of Thought

Interesting that it will be self-titled.  I'm not sure what to think about that, but I am looking forward to this nonetheless.

-J

[TheAtliator]

Can someone decipher this line of MIDI music and record it so we have a sample of 4 bars of the album??

Or am I late to the party? Has someone already posted this?  haha

[GasparXR]

robwebster should totally update the fact finder thread.

[Lucien]

robwebster should totally update the fact finder thread.

probably this

[BlobVanDam]

I'd love to see DT to truly embrace their prog side and finally have an album with several short unaccompanied songs, like a short piano or acoustic song, ala Yes' Mood for a Day, The Flower Kings' If 28 or Rush's Hope.  They sort of did that on SFAM by having Through My Words, except that that had some singing, too.  It could give an album a more cohesive and better flow by having several transitional pieces like those that act as sort of a brief comedown between two 10-minute plus tunes.

I'd much rather have an album where every song is equally strong, maybe more like Train of Thought, than something with more transitional tracks, which is something DT hasn't done a lot of (and I'm glad they haven't).

They can still have an album with all strong tracks, while still having transitional tracks.  The greater good is often more important, and if an album flows better and works better, I say go for it. 

Think of it like an action movie: you don't want every scene in the movie to be non-stop action. You need scenes that bring it down a bit, that way, when the action scenes do kick in, they have more punch (instead of just action after action after action).  Same way with an album, where ebb and flow can make an album that much better.

You already mentioned SFAM as a sort of example. How much more evidence does one need? I really like the diversity of having song lengths and types all over the map. It makes it feel like more of a stream of consciousness (no reference intended) rather than "ok, let's write a song. Ok, now let's write another, ok, that's 75 minutes".

"I'm running from the enemy inside
Searching for the life I left behind
These suffocating memories
Are etched upon my mind
And I can't escape from the enemy inside"

The song could very well be called "The Enemy Inside".

That sounds likely to me. It starts and ends with it, so I get the feeling it's a chorus.

The song is clearly about Captain Kirk in the TOS episode The Enemy Within, where a transporter malfunction splits him into two separate people and personalities. The album is going to be a concept album about Star Trek. You heard it here first, people.

And with over 700 episodes and 12 movies, there is no chance I can't find a way to twist any lyric to be about Star Trek.

[GasparXR]

"I'm running from the enemy inside
Searching for the life I left behind
These suffocating memories
Are etched upon my mind
And I can't escape from the enemy inside"

The song could very well be called "The Enemy Inside".

That sounds likely to me. It starts and ends with it, so I get the feeling it's a chorus.

I have a feeling you'll know the answer to that before most of us do.

[darkshade]

Interesting how often rumors spread sort of rapidly for a day or two leading up to a DT announcement, whether we knew one was coming or not. Those rumors usually become fact when the announcement comes (MP departure, MM joining, Luna Park DVD delays, DT12 announcement). I feel like someone close to the band keeps spilling the beans right before an official announcement is made.

[BlobVanDam]

"I'm running from the enemy inside
Searching for the life I left behind
These suffocating memories
Are etched upon my mind
And I can't escape from the enemy inside"

The song could very well be called "The Enemy Inside".

That sounds likely to me. It starts and ends with it, so I get the feeling it's a chorus.

I have a feeling you'll know the answer to that before most of us do.

Probably, although as of right now I don't know anything, which means I'm all for speculation!

[Lucien]

Interesting how often rumors spread sort of rapidly for a day or two leading up to a DT announcement, whether we knew one was coming or not. Those rumors usually become fact when the announcement comes (MP departure, MM joining, Luna Park DVD delays, DT12 announcement). I feel like someone close to the band keeps spilling the beans right before an official announcement is made.

I don't think we have an inner worker within DTF, though it is possible, I think DTF just has naturally great detectives. I found the Sept 24th announcement for DT12 a day ahead of time, people see it on the forum and suddenly everyone knows about it, next day it becomes official even though everyone already knows (a bit anticlimactic perhaps)

I have no clue where that Greek author revealing the fact that DT12 is in fact DTDT got his information, perhaps MM told him, as he was over there at the time.

Ehhhh, we're all a bunch of very close stalkers of the band.

[liran95]

Ehhhh, we're all a bunch of very close stalkers of the band.

This.

[DebraKadabra]

Violet is cool, since STP already used Purple.

Yeah but their album was called Purple and the DT album would be called The Purple Album

DING DING DING

@ Necropolis

[robwebster]

robwebster should totally update the fact finder thread.

probably this

You've overestimating my powers of persuasion!

I can't. It's locked.

[The Fatal Tragedy]

Can someone decipher this line of MIDI music and record it so we have a sample of 4 bars of the album??

Or am I late to the party? Has someone already posted this?  haha

I've been working on it and based on what I have sequenced so far, the melody sounds WICKED!
I'll be done with a midi sometime later today!

[wasteland]

You people

I wonder what would the band think if they checked this thread