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Sycsa


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Quote from: wasteland on April 26, 2013, 09:11:11 AM
What you said. I just stated that it's pretty easy to build a lost momentum for a future release, but the momentum ONCE the release date has come must be kept at all cost with almost immediate touring!
Yeah, exactly. They need to promote the album as much as they can, and not starting the tour as early as possible after the album's release wouldn't be a smart move.

TheGreatPretender



TheGreatPretender

Huh... It's neat little technology, but I do wonder how long it takes to render everything. It's probably expensive as hell.

robwebster

Quote from: ? on April 26, 2013, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: wasteland on April 26, 2013, 09:11:11 AM
What you said. I just stated that it's pretty easy to build a lost momentum for a future release, but the momentum ONCE the release date has come must be kept at all cost with almost immediate touring!
Yeah, exactly. They need to promote the album as much as they can, and not starting the tour as early as possible after the album's release wouldn't be a smart move.
I don't know - even if they kicked off the day after the album's launched, most people are still going to be waiting for a month, two months, three months, anything up to a full year to actually see the band. Even if you strike while the iron's hot, you're not really striking while the iron's hot, not for most people. September, January, what's the difference? For most fans, on most days, unless you're chasing the band around a continent, a tour is something that' happening people.  In some ways, you could argue the delay makes it more of an event. Three months 'til the album, three months 'til the tour, rather than everything happening at once. Builds up separate excitement, second wave of hype.

Sycsa

Quote from: robwebster on April 26, 2013, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: ? on April 26, 2013, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: wasteland on April 26, 2013, 09:11:11 AM
What you said. I just stated that it's pretty easy to build a lost momentum for a future release, but the momentum ONCE the release date has come must be kept at all cost with almost immediate touring!
Yeah, exactly. They need to promote the album as much as they can, and not starting the tour as early as possible after the album's release wouldn't be a smart move.
I don't know - even if they kicked off the day after the album's launched, most people are still going to be waiting for a month, two months, three months, anything up to a full year to actually see the band. Even if you strike while the iron's hot, you're not really striking while the iron's hot, not for most people. September, January, what's the difference? For most fans, on most days, unless you're chasing the band around a continent, a tour is something that' happening people.  In some ways, you could argue the delay makes it more of an event. Three months 'til the album, three months 'til the tour, rather than everything happening at once. Builds up separate excitement, second wave of hype.
I agree. Since you changed your avatar I usually don't notice it right away that it's you, but it only takes reading a few lines to realize it.  :tup

TheGreatPretender

Personally, I don't care. Iron Maiden's Final Frontier tour came when DT wasn't doing much of anything aside from actually touring. But I was still hyped as hell to see them live, and that was pretty much my main reason for going to the show at all. Maiden was just icing on the cake.

Point is, yeah, it doesn't matter when they start touring. Quite frankly, the further away it is, the more time I have to save up money for the VIP package I will inevitably be getting.

?

Well, my point was that they'll have to tour all these places (Europe, North America, South America, Asia, etc.) at some point, so why not start as quickly as possible? People in certain countries will have to wait for their show for many months anyway, and I bet RR is also pressuring them to start promoting the album early on to keep the momentum high.

kirksnosehair

I'm not going to see them again if they play the Orpheum Theater in Boston.  They were so fucking loud there last time that it ruined the show.  :tdwn


I think they've outgrown that venue.

wasteland

Quote from: kirksnosehair on April 26, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
I'm not going to see them again if they play the Orpheum Theater in Boston.  They were so fucking loud there last time that it ruined the show.  :tdwn


I think they've outgrown that venue.

Well, there is always The Axis :D (is it still there?)

Podaar

I'm quite pleased that they are taking the summer off. Presumably that means JP will have time to finalize a solo album (when he isn't smoking racks of lamb for his family)

DreamerTV

Quote from: wasteland on April 26, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: kirksnosehair on April 26, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
I'm not going to see them again if they play the Orpheum Theater in Boston.  They were so fucking loud there last time that it ruined the show.  :tdwn


I think they've outgrown that venue.

Well, there is always The Axis :D (is it still there?)

I think it has been closed a couple of years ago.

TAC

Quote from: DreamerTV on April 26, 2013, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: wasteland on April 26, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: kirksnosehair on April 26, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
I'm not going to see them again if they play the Orpheum Theater in Boston.  They were so fucking loud there last time that it ruined the show.  :tdwn


I think they've outgrown that venue.

Well, there is always The Axis :D (is it still there?)

I think it has been closed a couple of years ago.

Axis and Avalon (saw DT in both) were right next door to each other right behind Fenway Park's Green Monster. Both locations, along with a third place, I believe we're converted into what is now the House Of Blues.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

King Postwhore

TAC is 100% correct.  Saw Porcupine Tree there is it's a very good venue. 

But Barry, I'd rather see them at the Orpheum then that hole in Worcester called The Palladium.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Orthogonal

I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.

DebraKadabra

Quote from: Orthogonal on April 26, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.

THIS THIS THIS :biggrin:
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

johncal

#2012
To me, ADTOE was their best album ever, so I'm really up for this especially being a drummer myself I can't wait to see what Mangini does. When all the guys in the band (except JM who never says anything) say that Mangini's taking them to the next level, that's saying a lot. I mean JP is the group, but JR and MM are probably the 2 most musically advanced geniuses when it comes to theory, etc. so this should have some truly amazing moments.

The thing I'm looking forward to more than anything is the hope that there will be something in here musically we've never heard from anyone before. It's quite possible. I just hope the fans are ready for it. As for me, the more insane the better. The thing I loved so much about ADTOE was that there was just so much classical music structure and composition, especially in Outcry. For what they were doing, I was also happy with the mix. It was a very 70's analog sound. which I thought fit what they were doing. I do believe however that this one will be very much in your face. JP already said in this latest interview that the drums were really up front and a major part of it (paraphrasing) so it should be a mental feast.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Orthogonal on April 26, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.
...said Mike Portnoy.

Lucien

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 26, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Orthogonal on April 26, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.
...said Mike Portnoy.

There's a difference between a few months and a few years.

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 26, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Orthogonal on April 26, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.
...said Mike Portnoy.

Mike Portnoy wanted DT to go on an indefinite hiatus and return stronger and better than ever. Not even close.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack

I can't see the horizon for this recent discussion....

SuperTaco

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 26, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Orthogonal on April 26, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal if they take a few months off to recharge their batteries. They've been going pretty hard for several years. Get some rest and go on tour better than ever.
...said Mike Portnoy.

A summer break is not a multi-year hiatus.

DarkLord_Lalinc


TAC

Quote from: kingshmegland on April 26, 2013, 03:23:10 PM

But Barry, I'd rather see them at the Orpheum then that hole in Worcester called The Palladium.
Amen! I remember the DT show in Worcester thinking I was in a Planet Of The Apes type movie, and the Palladium was this deep underground space where the humans gathered.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

King Postwhore

Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2013, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on April 26, 2013, 03:23:10 PM

But Barry, I'd rather see them at the Orpheum then that hole in Worcester called The Palladium.
Amen! I remember the DT show in Worcester thinking I was in a Planet Of The Apes type movie, and the Palladium was this deep underground space where the humans gathered.

:lol   That image is now imprinted.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Filipe_metalhead

Well, I've been away from DTF but now I'm back. I wanted to know how things were! Can anybody bring me up to speed on the process of the new album?

wasteland

We don't know much, but the most detailed and coherent information we have so far were published yesterday on the interview JP had with DTNorway. You can see a small summary I made here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35260.msg1561287#msg1561287

Lucien

#2023
Well, so far we know there will be an instrumental, John Myung is writing lyrics, "the fans are in for a real treat, it's gonna be.. beautiful" -James LaBrie, we know what amps John Petrucci is using, apparently Over the Line Over the Edge Productions just finished filming something with Dream Theater (?), other things.

Shadow Ninja 2.0

A bit off-topic, but what's happening with James' solo album? Has anybody heard anything?

wasteland

Quote from: Lucien on April 27, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
Well, so far we know there will be an instrumental, John Myung is writing lyrics, "the fans are in for a real treat, it's gonna be.. beautiful" -James LaBrie, we know what amps John Petrucci is using, apparently Over the Line Productions just finished filming something with Dream Theater (?), other things.

Over The Edge, please  :D

Lucien

Quote from: wasteland on April 27, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: Lucien on April 27, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
Well, so far we know there will be an instrumental, John Myung is writing lyrics, "the fans are in for a real treat, it's gonna be.. beautiful" -James LaBrie, we know what amps John Petrucci is using, apparently Over the Line Productions just finished filming something with Dream Theater (?), other things.

Over The Edge, please  :D

Lol. Anyways, the album should be AMAZING.

goo-goo

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on April 27, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
A bit off-topic, but what's happening with James' solo album? Has anybody heard anything?

YES! Jens Borgen is mixing/mastering it at the moment. This was posted by Matt Guillory on his FB this week.

Shadow Ninja 2.0

Quote from: goo-goo on April 27, 2013, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on April 27, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
A bit off-topic, but what's happening with James' solo album? Has anybody heard anything?

YES! Jens Borgen is mixing/mastering it at the moment. This was posted by Matt Guillory on his FB this week.

Good. Jens Bogren seems to be almost synonymous with great albums.

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on April 27, 2013, 11:55:29 AM
Quote from: goo-goo on April 27, 2013, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on April 27, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
A bit off-topic, but what's happening with James' solo album? Has anybody heard anything?

YES! Jens Borgen is mixing/mastering it at the moment. This was posted by Matt Guillory on his FB this week.

Good. Jens Bogren seems to be almost synonymous with great albums.
Yeah, Static Impulse sounded amazing so I'm hoping for more of that quality :)