DT in the studio again!

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

lol it's funny how some people go nuts about information about the album. But ultimately, the album is going to be released on a certain date that is know to us. Is knowing the artwork and the track titles really going to change the musical content or the release date?

No, but it will change our opinions about the artwork and the track titles. Which are both interesting things - one of them is pretty much the first creative statement this album will make.

Besides - last time, the artwork was released at the same time as the first single, so... it might change the release date of the musical content, yeah!

[wolven74]

Back to the cover speculation - I think we need another album cover based on the color white. Something a lot brighter this time.

Although this is what I really think it'll be: Just the majesty symbol, but with a lot of great detail around it. Example: A majesty symbol made out of stone, with vines/roots coming out of it.

This would be sweet. Sorta like Whitesnake '87. Though honestly, I think the artwork has UNOFFICIALLY been revealed already. Purple majesty symbol on the DT FB page. We will find out sometime next week.

And in the red corner, I'm going to put £20 on "It definitely hasn't!"

They'd never announce it without hubbub; it's, frankly, a fairly low quality image; and "I've seen that one, too" isn't really how you'd emphasise that sentence if everyone else had also seen it. "We're revealing it next week" wouldn't make that much sense, either. I'm never certain, cos nothing's ever certain, but I'm... approaching certain. The difference between what I am, and certain, is negligible.

I"ll go with this too. I'm just speculating that the FB page Majesty logo could be it, hence the UNOFFICIAL... I don't know what it's gonna be anymore than anyone who's not Rich Chycki or a member of the band.

Next week, we should know. It's Friday, so next week is only a couple days away.

[atmyne]

lol it's funny how some people go nuts about information about the album. But ultimately, the album is going to be released on a certain date that is know to us. Is knowing the artwork and the track titles really going to change the musical content or the release date?

No, but it will change our opinions about the artwork and the track titles. Which are both interesting things - one of them is pretty much the first creative statement this album will make.

absolutely, although I meant it in the context of that entire paragraph: an uncertain announcement of an announcement is NOT going to change opinions about the album. But yes track titles and lengths aught to warrant speculation and some excitement.

[CodyWanKenobi]

I personally don't think JP needs solo records. Everyone acknowledges at this point that he is the main writer and driving force of DT. There should be no reason why he can't do anything he wants with DT.

He does solo records, and writes solo material so he can participate in the G3 tours. I think that's a totally valid, and really cool reason. 

[MoraWintersoul]

Okay now let's have a page and a half of "seriously guys stop with the unwarranted hype" posts

Seriously though, imagine if the single, artwork and tracklist came out this very moment. You'd be satisfied now, but with two and a half months left to release date, that would be two and a half months of silence because there would be nothing more to build hype with except interviews, and only we read those. They can't possibly release new info every week when there's a three month gap between mastering the album and the release date!

Seriously, for most bands I listen to, it goes something like this: first they say "we'll probably have an album out this year", and it's often not the two-year schedule DT adheres to; then there's several months of total silence, then there's "we're in the studio and writing", then there's a couple months silence (maaaaaaybe a couple studio pics; certainly not Twitter feeds from 3/5 members and a producer, in-studio docus from which you can decipher a full MIDI line and lyrics!), then the artwork and the tracklist come, then one or more tracks from the album come a few weeks after.

I'd argue we're not in a bad situation though; firstly, it's not the entire fandom, just five or six people on one thread in the forum, and the wait for the DVD has worn us out anyway so we have a right to ramble about this every now and then if nothing, the thread has become a half-parody of nerdy DT fans, but we parody ourselves because we have nothing better to do atm. It's not a COMPLETE farce.

/Milena retreats to Cave

[CodyWanKenobi]

To be honest, I forgot all about the DVD until you posted that, Milena!

[GasparXR]

To be honest, I forgot all about the DVD until you posted that, Milena!

OH GOD NOW I'M GETTING VIETNAM FLASHBACKS






But yeah, we're a very spoiled fanbase. We should learn to be a little less demanding about new information.

[ariich]

As always, I agree with everything that Rob and lady-Rob Milena have said.

[Orbert]

There's a DVD coming out, too?!

[lonestar]

Rob and lady-Rob Milena

[MoraWintersoul]

Oh what's with you Riches praising my posts lately

[wasteland]

The next Rich to praise you could either be Chycki or Wilson, you choose

[MoraWintersoul]

Or Richard Armitage *swoons*

2 cents on the cover art: when people said DT12 could be self-titled, I said "eh I don't think so", so I'm not sure how to feel about the probability of the cover being based on the purple Majesty image

[Marion Crane]

I'll try to squeeze some album info out of Jordan next week when I see him at NAMM

[Elite]

Oh what's with you Riches praising my posts lately

[?]

*a great post*

All of this. During the recording of the new album DT have used social media and given little updates much more actively than most bands I'm a fan of.

[eosforum]

Concerning the "too much hype..", "it's embarassing.." kinda posts, I think it's completely ok that some of us are going nuts with the anticipation. Of course spamming RR's or OTE's social media accounts is all kinds of wrong (rude and too needy), but noone can tell us to not be as hyped as possible or to listen to other bands for a while etc. Your intentions are surely the best, but as you can't judge one's taste you also can't judge its broadness. Some of us enjoy DT"s music incomparably more to that of other artists. That may seem kind of sad, but hey, this is the Dream Theater Forum! I for one check out this forum frequently and thoroughly just because of the little extra bits of info regarding DT news that can only be found here. Also stuff like the midi transcription or pics of lyrics and all that, I don't know, it's like Christmas for me when I see such stuff posted.

[Lucidity]

I would be very pleased if the purple Majesty logo became the album cover. Bold, simple, and understated (in contrast to many other DT covers).

[lonestar]

I would be very pleased if the purple Majesty logo became the album cover. Bold, simple, and understated (in contrast to many other DT covers).

Plus I wouldn't have to change the wallpaper on my phone. 

[ibosmiley]

As far as I'm concerned, the cover could be a four year old's stick figure drawing with Dream Theater written in crayon on the front.  As long as the music inside is good, I'll be a happy guy.

[JayOctavarium]

As far as I'm concerned, the cover could be a four year old's stick figure drawing with Dream Theater written in crayon on the front.  As long as the music inside is good, I'll be a happy guy.

plus the correct font

[ibosmiley]

As far as I'm concerned, the cover could be a four year old's stick figure drawing with Dream Theater written in crayon on the front.  As long as the music inside is good, I'll be a happy guy.

plus the correct font

Hmmm, you know, the DT font in Crayon might be an interesting look...

[dparrott]

I would be very pleased if the purple Majesty logo became the album cover. Bold, simple, and understated (in contrast to many other DT covers).

  I think it's just right for a S/T album.  Logo and font.  Done.

[wolven74]

Concerning the "too much hype..", "it's embarassing.." kinda posts, I think it's completely ok that some of us are going nuts with the anticipation. Of course spamming RR's or OTE's social media accounts is all kinds of wrong (rude and too needy), but noone can tell us to not be as hyped as possible or to listen to other bands for a while etc. Your intentions are surely the best, but as you can't judge one's taste you also can't judge its broadness. Some of us enjoy DT"s music incomparably more to that of other artists. That may seem kind of sad, but hey, this is the Dream Theater Forum! I for one check out this forum frequently and thoroughly just because of the little extra bits of info regarding DT news that can only be found here. Also stuff like the midi transcription or pics of lyrics and all that, I don't know, it's like Christmas for me when I see such stuff posted.

Exactly this.

[atmyne]

Concerning the "too much hype..", "it's embarassing.." kinda posts, I think it's completely ok that some of us are going nuts with the anticipation. Of course spamming RR's or OTE's social media accounts is all kinds of wrong (rude and too needy), but noone can tell us to not be as hyped as possible or to listen to other bands for a while etc. Your intentions are surely the best, but as you can't judge one's taste you also can't judge its broadness. Some of us enjoy DT"s music incomparably more to that of other artists. That may seem kind of sad, but hey, this is the Dream Theater Forum! I for one check out this forum frequently and thoroughly just because of the little extra bits of info regarding DT news that can only be found here. Also stuff like the midi transcription or pics of lyrics and all that, I don't know, it's like Christmas for me when I see such stuff posted.

I agree with all of this. I will say that I only meant to suggest checking out other bands, although my execution was a bit douchy lol. Maybe i'm just jealous I don't have that level of excitement alot of people have for this upcoming record, which I have had for the last couple of releases. Honestly the best part of being a DT fan is the impending release of musical awesomeness by the band, and it's clear why the excitement is hard to contain.

anyway. I'm thinking the cover will simply be the logo. Drop the "dream theater"... it's cooler...

[liran95]

anyway. I'm thinking the cover will simply be the logo. Drop the "dream theater"... it's cooler...

[BlobVanDam]

Concerning the "too much hype..", "it's embarassing.." kinda posts, I think it's completely ok that some of us are going nuts with the anticipation. Of course spamming RR's or OTE's social media accounts is all kinds of wrong (rude and too needy), but noone can tell us to not be as hyped as possible or to listen to other bands for a while etc. Your intentions are surely the best, but as you can't judge one's taste you also can't judge its broadness. Some of us enjoy DT"s music incomparably more to that of other artists. That may seem kind of sad, but hey, this is the Dream Theater Forum! I for one check out this forum frequently and thoroughly just because of the little extra bits of info regarding DT news that can only be found here. Also stuff like the midi transcription or pics of lyrics and all that, I don't know, it's like Christmas for me when I see such stuff posted.

I agree with all of this. I will say that I only meant to suggest checking out other bands, although my execution was a bit douchy lol. Maybe i'm just jealous I don't have that level of excitement alot of people have for this upcoming record, which I have had for the last couple of releases. Honestly the best part of being a DT fan is the impending release of musical awesomeness by the band, and it's clear why the excitement is hard to contain.

anyway. I'm thinking the cover will simply be the logo. Drop the "dream theater"... it's cooler...

They may as well put a sticker on the front that says "contains 100% prog pretentiousness!" Leaving a band name off an album cover is a horrible idea. It's already bad enough they'll be leaving the album name off it.

[wasteland]

Yeah, I believe that leaving off the band name could somewhat backfire economically, as the album wouldn't jump to the eye of the average distracted casual fan when going through the selves of a record store.

[BlobVanDam]

I agree. I think DT is big enough that it would be a vitally bad marketing decision. It's like a DVD case that doesn't have the name of the movie on it.

[King Postwhore]

I love that everybody on DTF's panties are in a bind.  I am as anxious as anybody here but to read some people's post makes me feel sane.

[atmyne]

They may as well put a sticker on the front that says "contains 100% prog pretentiousness!" Leaving a band name off an album cover is a horrible idea. It's already bad enough they'll be leaving the album name off it.

I disagree, as I think that it would be the opposite of pretension given they have been around 20+ years, and also think that it would in fact be intriguing/eye catching to the guy in the music store. Heck, they've already gone ahead with the self titled thing, I can totally see them doing something like having only the logo on the cover. If they're gonna make a statement they might as well go all out on it.

[hefdaddy42]

I love that everybody on DTF's panties are in a bind.  I am as anxious as anybody here but to read some people's post makes me feel sane.

Yeah, I mean, I am extremely excited about info for the new release, but some of the posts here sound like my youngest daughter when we're on vacation.

If any of you are 10-year old girls, I of course mean no disrespect.




j/k

[King Postwhore]

 

It's like a caddy girl fight here hef. Everybody defends something.  I'll wait until the album is out and then I'll gush like a teenage girl.

[atmyne]

I'll wait until the album is out and then I'll gush like a teenage girl.

* 9001

[hefdaddy42]

I would imagine that many of the people we are discussing are much younger than us, or relatively recent DT converts, or both.

I've been a huge fan since I&W, and now I'm married with two kids.  I've got too much going on in my life to act like a new album is Christmas, even an album from my favorite band.  It's all about perspective.

Now give us some damn info.

Of course, our real work as mods won't kick into high gear until the album leaks, a month or so the release date.  That's when we have to start kicking ass.