DT in the studio again!

[BlackInk]

Assuming "The Woodshed" is what he calls the room that holds his guitar collection... that is a BAD ASS NAME.

Or.....he's been working so hard he hasn't 'been' with his wife in ages and 'the woodshed' is code for bedroom?

Yeah, That's what I'd call me and my wife's bedroom too..

[?]

JLB finished his vocals for ADTOE back in April.

No, he didn't.

[wolfking]

I thought they were aiming for a September release date?  With this update that means there is a lot more studio time.  I think we will see it more like November even December.

[Nihil-Morari]

Considering JLB finished his vocal tracks May 26th, they're only a couple of weeks behind the ADTOE timetable (I guess finishing vocal tracks will take a couple of weeks starting now)

[emtee]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

[ZirconBlue]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Yeah, but those albums also contained about half as much music. 

[JPX]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

[Cedar redaC]

Well actually, the term "Woodshed" comes from Charlie Parker, who would practice his music in his woodshed.

[emtee]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

A few off the top of my head...

Beatles
Zeppelin
Alice Cooper
Judas Priest
CCR
Queen
David Bowie
Greatful Dead

[JPX]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

A few off the top of my head...

Beatles
Zeppelin
Alice Cooper
Judas Priest
CCR
Queen
David Bowie
Greatful Dead

Fair enough. Some of those guys were more prolific than others. I think in general though those frequent releases happen earlier in a bands career. When you've been around for 20+ years, you don't, and probably shouldn't be releasing material that often. I get what you mean though about doing so when in your groove. When you're turning out great material, you should run with it.

[phentalmyst]

also, van halen...

[TAC]

also, van halen...

..and Kiss.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Assuming "The Woodshed" is what he calls the room that holds his guitar collection... that is a BAD ASS NAME.

Or.....he's been working so hard he hasn't 'been' with his wife in ages and 'the woodshed' is code for bedroom?

Yeah, That's what I'd call me and my wife's bedroom too..

[JayOctavarium]

Assuming "The Woodshed" is what he calls the room that holds his guitar collection... that is a BAD ASS NAME.

Or.....he's been working so hard he hasn't 'been' with his wife in ages and 'the woodshed' is code for bedroom?

Yeah, That's what I'd call me and my wife's bedroom too..

nice use of... Timmy's dad

[DebraKadabra]

Considering JLB finished his vocal tracks May 26th, they're only a couple of weeks behind the ADTOE timetable (I guess finishing vocal tracks will take a couple of weeks starting now)

Good point.  I honestly don't get people bitching about how long things are taking - wasn't that the problem with SC and BC/SL?

[Kotowboy]

DT consistently bring out an album every two years. We know it's coming out this year so we don't really have much to complain about.


Not like we're waiting for a new Metallica or Tool CD !

[CodyWanKenobi]

DT consistently bring out an album every two years. We know it's coming out this year so we don't really have much to complain about.


Not like we're waiting for a new Metallica or Tool CD !

Or Symphony X..

[DebraKadabra]

Welcome to five pages ago.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Welcome to five pages ago.

I know, but I saw it starting up again, so I thought I'd chime in. hahaha 

[TheAtliator]

DT consistently bring out an album every two years. We know it's coming out this year so we don't really have much to complain about.


Not like we're waiting for a new Metallica or Tool CD !

Or Symphony X..

or Styx...

well if we're starting it up again.. 


oh and-

also, van halen...

..and Kiss.

first 9 Styx albums came out each one year apart, but Styx II and Serpent is Rising both came out in '73. But we have to remember that many of these albums we're referencing are less than half the size of DT albums in length 

It's clear- NO band is as good as Dream Theater at 1, coming out with new albums consistently and 2, playing ALL songs live (literally every song from every album is on the possible-to-hear list when you see DT, which is absolutely astounding.

Styx only plays songs from 8 of their 14 albums, four of which they play only ONE song from EVER anymore.

[MoraWintersoul]

It's clear- NO band is as good as Dream Theater at 1, coming out with new albums consistently and 2, playing ALL songs live (literally every song from every album is on the possible-to-hear list when you see DT, which is absolutely astounding.

I'm hoping SDV won't be left out of that list in the future and also some unreleased tracks EHM FII DEMO MATERIAL, SOMETIMES, ON A SEMI-ACOUSTIC GIG JAMES SOMETIMES TALKS ABOUT AND, YOU KNOW, EVE.

But there are also "regular" songs that aren't really likely to be played again, like You Not Me and stuff like that that wasn't really popular or that didn't work too well live (New Millennium comes to mind, according to JLB), some less popular WDADU songs, and also the entirety of the AA suite will not likely be done without MP, and The Best Of Times probably won't be done without MP, and you can't bet on any of their mega-epics in full length without them playing longer show.

What DT do is amazing and I can't think of any other band that puts the majority of their catalog into consideration for live shows, and I won't even mention DT used to completely rotate setlists and play double shows for years, since having an A and B setlist (with minor tweaks between them) that change substantially for each separate leg of the tour, as they do now, is awesome enough, but to say they would take into consideration anything they released for a regular show on a regular tour is a bit of a miscalculation.

Just me being a pedantic asshole

[TheAtliator]

It's clear- NO band is as good as Dream Theater at 1, coming out with new albums consistently and 2, playing ALL songs live (literally every song from every album is on the possible-to-hear list when you see DT, which is absolutely astounding.

I'm hoping SDV won't be left out of that list in the future and also some unreleased tracks EHM FII DEMO MATERIAL, SOMETIMES, ON A SEMI-ACOUSTIC GIG JAMES SOMETIMES TALKS ABOUT AND, YOU KNOW, EVE.

But there are also "regular" songs that aren't really likely to be played again, like You Not Me and stuff like that that wasn't really popular or that didn't work too well live (New Millennium comes to mind, according to JLB), some less popular WDADU songs, and also the entirety of the AA suite will not likely be done without MP, and The Best Of Times probably won't be done without MP, and you can't bet on any of their mega-epics in full length without them playing longer show.

What DT do is amazing and I can't think of any other band that puts the majority of their catalog into consideration for live shows, and I won't even mention DT used to completely rotate setlists and play double shows for years, since having an A and B setlist (with minor tweaks between them) that change substantially for each separate leg of the tour, as they do now, is awesome enough, but to say they would take into consideration anything they released for a regular show on a regular tour is a bit of a miscalculation.

Just me being a pedantic asshole

and even after being so petty, considering the way they've pulled stuff out before, we have no reason to believe that none of those demos (btw not even on an album- I said "every song on every album") won't be played again, because they just might. And I tend to believe (and REALLY hope) that one day I will see Light the Fuse and Getaway live. And they do things for albums' anniversaries too, which makes it even more possible. Even if you're right, like let's say it was only Portnoy who pushed for playing obscurities, compare playing every song on every album minus 5 or 6 to only playing songs that made it on the radio..

[GasparXR]

DT will be on tour for the year of Awake's 20th, do you you think they will celebrate it in some way? I sure hope so, it would be awesome to hear LSOAD, Voices, or even SDV if they decided to play it.

[JayOctavarium]

DT will be on tour for the year of Awake's 20th, do you you think they will celebrate it in some way? I sure hope so, it would be awesome to hear LSOAD, Voices, or even SDV if they decided to play it.

They should play the entire thing. In Los Angeles. I would die happy

[MoraWintersoul]

Even if you're right, like let's say it was only Portnoy who pushed for playing obscurities, compare playing every song on every album minus 5 or 6 to only playing songs that made it on the radio..

I don't think it was only MP - they got tired of playing Evening Withs before he left, and at this point they just have too many "regular" songs out on albums and too many casual fans - they're growing more popular and acclaimed by the day and that would have happened with or without MP leaving - who wouldn't know, let's say, To Live Forever (well think of the percentage of people who aren't aware of "that one album" before JLB, let alone unreleased stuff), to be able to dedicate regular set time to rarities.

In short, they're growing into the type of band which has to go for the somewhat familiar stuff that can get a varied crowd fired up but they still leave place for less obvious songs in the set and I love that, I agree with you, I'm just saying it's not everything they play and that one or two very rare or first time song(s) in the set would take them ten-ish minutes tops and take all us fanboys up to heavens while making 70% of the other attenders of their shows only mildly confused

DT will be on tour for the year of Awake's 20th, do you you think they will celebrate it in some way? I sure hope so, it would be awesome to hear LSOAD, Voices, or even SDV if they decided to play it.

They should play the entire thing. In Los Angeles. I would die happy

Get a camera rolling before you die because that's the only way I'd see it.
2014 is 20th anniversary of Awake and 15th anniversary of SFAM. Hm.

[wasteland]

DT will be on tour for the year of Awake's 20th, do you you think they will celebrate it in some way? I sure hope so, it would be awesome to hear LSOAD, Voices, or even SDV if they decided to play it.

They should play the entire thing. In Los Angeles. I would die happy

Los Angeles already had its share of anniversaries. It's time for other countries like Italy, Japan, Serbia, Indonesia.

[TheAtliator]

Awake in particular is such a huge part of my life. I've actually been hoping about the anniversary of it next year, and i REALLY hope they do something, they never have for that album before. I also live in Los Angeles, if they played the whole album at whatever show I end up going to, it would be a major unforgettable event in my life for sure.

[TheAtliator]

Even if you're right, like let's say it was only Portnoy who pushed for playing obscurities, compare playing every song on every album minus 5 or 6 to only playing songs that made it on the radio..

I don't think it was only MP

I'm not saying you said it was only MP who said they should do obscurities 

[MoraWintersoul]

DT will be on tour for the year of Awake's 20th, do you you think they will celebrate it in some way? I sure hope so, it would be awesome to hear LSOAD, Voices, or even SDV if they decided to play it.

They should play the entire thing. In Los Angeles. I would die happy

Los Angeles already had its share of anniversaries. It's time for other countries like Italy, Japan, Serbia, Indonesia.

SPACE DIE WEST IN SRBIJA PLS

Awake in particular is such a huge part of my life.

For my part, I am scared to think how huge

Even if you're right, like let's say it was only Portnoy who pushed for playing obscurities, compare playing every song on every album minus 5 or 6 to only playing songs that made it on the radio..

I don't think it was only MP

I'm not saying you said it was only MP who said they should do obscurities 

I'm not saying you said what I said you said WAIT WUT
Taking a chance to tell you you're awesome once again

[Lucien]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

Fly By Night and Caress of Steel by Rush were both released in '75.

[Mosh]

Seeing Awake live would be insane. It's my favorite Dream Theater album, I would travel to the other side of the planet to see it!

[cyberdrummer]

Whereas Blob would travel to the other side of the planet not to see it.

[GasparXR]

Whereas Blob would travel to the other side of the planet not to see it.

[wasteland]

Whereas Blob would travel to the other side of the planet not to see it.

[me7]

All those bi-annual releases mentioned were from the vinyl era, when albums were usually 35-40 minutes long. A DT album that clocks around 75 minutes contains the same amount of music as two early Rush albums.