DT album ranking

[Darkes7]

Lately:

1. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
2. Awake
3. Scenes From A Memory
4. Images and Words
5. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
6. Train Of Thought
7. Falling Into Infinity
8. Octavarium
9. Systematic Chaos

This is my friend's list. As you can see, we have different tastes.
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Octavarium
3. Train of Thought
4. Systematic Chaos
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Images and Words
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Awake
10. When Dream and Day Unite

Wow your friend is borderline retarted

Seems like a decent list to me.

Don't worry, not just to you. Systematic Chaos over I&W is always +100.

[Mladen]

1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (disc 1)
10. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (disc 2)

Ouch...

[j]

Okay, here's the answer key.  Check your rankings against it and see how you did! 
Darkes don't get mad I'm just kidding.

1. Images and Words
2. Awake
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. Falling Into Infinity
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
7. When Dream and Day Unite
8. Octavarium
9. Train of Thought
10. Systematic Chaos

10000000. When Dream and Day Unite (I don't even remotely like any part of any of these songs)

Try listening to them for a second time.

-J

[Mladen]

Interesting to see FII above SFAM... 

[Quadrochosis]

1. Scenes From A Memory
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Images and Words
4. Octavarium
5. Awake
6. Train of Thought
7. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Systematic Chaos
10. When Day and Dream Unite

EDIT: After some more listening and though, my order changed.

[j]

Interesting to see FII above SFAM... 

Those are the two I always struggle with.  I like 'em about equally; SFAM is probably the better album as a whole, but I think Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand, Hell's Kitchen, and New Millennium are better than anything on SFAM, and I listen to FII far more often.  Coulda gone either way.

-J

[tri.ad]

Interesting to see FII above SFAM... 

But perfectly reasonable.

[Darkes7]

Okay, here's the answer key.  Check your rankings against it and see how you did! 
Darkes don't get mad I'm just kidding.

1. Images and Words
2. Awake
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. Falling Into Infinity
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
7. When Dream and Day Unite
8. Octavarium
9. Train of Thought
10. Systematic Chaos

More like "check your ranking against this one - it's almost the exact opposite of a good ranking"

[BlobVanDam]

Interesting to see FII above SFAM... 

Those are the two I always struggle with.  I like 'em about equally; SFAM is probably the better album as a whole, but I think Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand, Hell's Kitchen, and New Millennium are better than anything on SFAM, and I listen to FII far more often.  Coulda gone either way.

-J

I'm the same. I think they're both great DT albums. SFAM has the consistency, but there aren't really any standouts individually. And even though FII has a few weak songs, it still has a lot of fantastic ones. I'd probably put them tied as my 3rd favourite.

[ResultsMayVary]

I recently re-listened to DT's whole discography and had to change my list and this is my current ranking:

1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
2. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
3. Octavarium
4. Scenes From A Memory
5. Systematic Chaos
6. Train of Thought
7. Awake
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Images and Words
10. When Dream and Day Unite

[brodgers]

Wow your friend is borderline retarded

fix'd

haha wow i fail

[Darkes7]

I recently re-listened to DT's whole discography and had to change my list and this is my current ranking:

1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
2. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
3. Octavarium
4. Scenes From A Memory
5. Systematic Chaos
6. Train of Thought
7. Awake
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Images and Words
10. When Dream and Day Unite

My new hero. (maybe Awake and SFAM a bit higher)

[Deborgio]

DAM missed post 256 = 2^8
speaking of 8...

1. Octavarium
2. 6DOIT
3. BC&SL
4. SFAM
5. Images & Words
6. Systematic Chaos
7. Train Of Thought
8. Awake
9. Falling Into Infinity
10. WDADU

[Nihil-Morari]

Good:
Images and Words
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Scenes From A Memory
Black Clouds and Silver Linings

Below DT average:
When Dream and Day Unite
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Octavarium
Systematic Chaos
Train of Thought

(not really a list, and these are not in any order, but those are my top 4)

[Shadow2222]

This is my friend's list. As you can see, we have different tastes.
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Octavarium
3. Train of Thought
4. Systematic Chaos
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Images and Words
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Awake
10. When Dream and Day Unite

To be fair, my friend is a newer Dream Theater fan, and he is definitely a metal head who barely likes prog. So of course he goes for songs like ItnoG and Constant Motion, but he thinks that Octavarium is one of his favorite songs, so he is starting to appreciate the more proggy and "light" stuff better.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

This is my friend's list. As you can see, we have different tastes.
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Octavarium
3. Train of Thought
4. Systematic Chaos
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Images and Words
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Awake
10. When Dream and Day Unite

To be fair, my friend is a newer Dream Theater fan, and he is definitely a metal head who barely likes prog. So of course he goes for songs like ItnoG and Constant Motion, but he thinks that Octavarium is one of his favorite songs, so he is starting to appreciate the more proggy and "light" stuff better.

Then why is Awake so low? It's very heavy, and has that tinge of prog without being overbearing

[BlobVanDam]

This is my friend's list. As you can see, we have different tastes.
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Octavarium
3. Train of Thought
4. Systematic Chaos
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Images and Words
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Awake
10. When Dream and Day Unite

To be fair, my friend is a newer Dream Theater fan, and he is definitely a metal head who barely likes prog. So of course he goes for songs like ItnoG and Constant Motion, but he thinks that Octavarium is one of his favorite songs, so he is starting to appreciate the more proggy and "light" stuff better.

Then why is Awake so low? It's very heavy, and has that tinge of prog without being overbearing

Even though Awake has its heavier songs like Caugh in a Web, The Mirror and Lie, I don't think the rest is that heavy, even though it uses 7 string guitars and is noticeably heavier than IaW. That's not to say it doesn't have other heavy moments, because there definitely are, but the rest of the songs aren't as straightforward metal as the aforementioned songs.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

This is my friend's list. As you can see, we have different tastes.
1. Black Clouds and Silver Linings
2. Octavarium
3. Train of Thought
4. Systematic Chaos
5. Scenes From a Memory
6. Images and Words
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
8. Falling Into Infinity
9. Awake
10. When Dream and Day Unite

To be fair, my friend is a newer Dream Theater fan, and he is definitely a metal head who barely likes prog. So of course he goes for songs like ItnoG and Constant Motion, but he thinks that Octavarium is one of his favorite songs, so he is starting to appreciate the more proggy and "light" stuff better.

Then why is Awake so low? It's very heavy, and has that tinge of prog without being overbearing

Even though Awake has its heavier songs like Caugh in a Web, The Mirror and Lie, I don't think the rest is that heavy, even though it uses 7 string guitars and is noticeably heavier than IaW. That's not to say it doesn't have other heavy moments, because there definitely are, but the rest of the songs aren't as straightforward metal as the aforementioned songs.

That's true. Though the lighter songs I would say are: The Silent Man, Lifting Shadows, and Space-Dye Vest. The rest I would say are 'heavy'. It's not Train of Thought, but it is heavy

[j]

Good:
Images and Words
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Scenes From A Memory
Black Clouds and Silver Linings

Below DT average:
When Dream and Day Unite
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Octavarium
Systematic Chaos
Train of Thought

(not really a list, and these are not in any order, but those are my top 4)

  I like how more than half of DT's albums are "below DT average".

That's true. Though the lighter songs I would say are: The Silent Man, Lifting Shadows, and Space-Dye Vest. The rest I would say are 'heavy'. It's not Train of Thought, but it is heavy

And Awake is definitely one of their heaviest albums, it's just a different kind of heavy than ToT or SC.  The heaviness seems to come naturally with the music and lyrical themes, and dare I say with a bit of subtlety and tastefulness.  The non-heavy tracks help the album flow and add some diversity, instead of obvious in-your-face attempts at being heavy just because (ToT).

-J

[Darkes7]

I think it's also the sound, Awake doesn't have that modern, sharp sound the newer albums have, so it doesn't feel so heavy even if it really is.

[Nihil-Morari]

...

  I like how more than half of DT's albums are "below DT average".

That's perfectly possible, isn't it? If the first four albums are really good, and the others are just below good, the average can be good.

[ResultsMayVary]

And below DT average probably still means fantastic compared to every other band.

[j]

...

  I like how more than half of DT's albums are "below DT average".

That's perfectly possible, isn't it? If the first four albums are really good, and the others are just below good, the average can be good.

I didn't mean to imply that you meant those albums weren't good.  And yeah, it's mathematically possible depending on which kind of "average" you use.  I just found it amusing at first glance, that's all. 

-J

[Meleeruler]

Alright everyone, prepare to shat bricks and rage.

1) Octavarium
2) Images and Words
3) Systematic Chaos
4) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
6) Black Clouds & Silver Linings
7) Awake
8) Scenes From A Memory
9) When Dream And Day Unite
10) Falling Into Infinity

Yes, I'm not joking. Awake and Black Clouds could be switched, depending on my mood.

[Rafael Guerra]

Alright everyone, prepare to shat bricks and rage.

1) Octavarium
2) Images and Words
3) Systematic Chaos
4) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
6) Black Clouds & Silver Linings
7) Awake
8) Scenes From A Memory
9) When Dream And Day Unite
10) Falling Into Infinity

Yes, I'm not joking. Awake and Black Clouds could be switched, depending on my mood.

Lol, this is sad, don´t be afraid to show your opinion. Octavarium is the "best album" to lots of people and the fact Images and Words is just under it means that you truly appreciate all stages of DT. I understand your worry about systematic chaos though...

[Meleeruler]

If I was afraid, I wouldn't have posted it at all, you see.

[Darkes7]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

[Dark Master Of Sin]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

I appreciate all DT music.

[j]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

There's hope after all!  Maybe one day we WILL see eye to eye.  

And Melee, there are many lists far worse than yours in this thread.  Welcome! 

-J

[BlobVanDam]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

Of course they exist. Put me down in that list too.

[Nihil-Morari]

...

  I like how more than half of DT's albums are "below DT average".

That's perfectly possible, isn't it? If the first four albums are really good, and the others are just below good, the average can be good.

I didn't mean to imply that you meant those albums weren't good.  And yeah, it's mathematically possible depending on which kind of "average" you use.  I just found it amusing at first glance, that's all. 

-J

[Darkes7]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

Of course they exist. Put me down in that list too.

Ah, that's good. I thought it's an endangered species or something.

[ResultsMayVary]

Someone who loves I&W and appreciates SC at the same time... they do exist!

Of course they exist. Put me down in that list too.

Ah, that's good. I thought it's an endangered species or something.

Put me down on that list, too.

[Dream Team]

Good:
Images and Words
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Scenes From A Memory
Black Clouds and Silver Linings

Below DT average:
When Dream and Day Unite
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Octavarium
Systematic Chaos
Train of Thought

(not really a list, and these are not in any order, but those are my top 4)

  I like how more than half of DT's albums are "below DT average".

That's true. Though the lighter songs I would say are: The Silent Man, Lifting Shadows, and Space-Dye Vest. The rest I would say are 'heavy'. It's not Train of Thought, but it is heavy

And Awake is definitely one of their heaviest albums, it's just a different kind of heavy than ToT or SC.  The heaviness seems to come naturally with the music and lyrical themes, and dare I say with a bit of subtlety and tastefulness.  The non-heavy tracks help the album flow and add some diversity, instead of obvious in-your-face attempts at being heavy just because (ToT).

-J

Yes, which is why I wish that JP would abandon all the de-tuning crap. Heaviness comes from the ability to write good riffs, NOT how you tune the guitar.

[Dream Team]

Let's see, the list has changed a lot over the years. "Scenes" was #1 for awhile, but has dropped quite a bit. "Train of Thought" used to be last but has moved up.

1. Images and Words
2. Six Degrees
3. Awake
4. Black Clouds
5. Scenes
6. When Dream & Day Unite
7. Train of Thought
8. Systematic Chaos
9. Octavarium
10. Falling Into Infinity