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Your Controversial Opinions on DT

Started by Lucidity, December 17, 2012, 07:28:25 PM

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Nearmyth

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 20, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated, but I don't really know if that's highly controversial.
I think its OVERrated. I constantly see people singing praises to it, so I really wouldn't call it underrated.

But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal
Yes, and I'm sure a ton of people here LOVE that chord progression. So the song isn't underrated.

aprilethereal

Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 20, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated, but I don't really know if that's highly controversial.
I think its OVERrated. I constantly see people singing praises to it, so I really wouldn't call it underrated.

But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal

"Being underrated" doesn't mean "being bad" :P

TheGreatPretender


aprilethereal

Okay, I fucked this up :D

I wanted to write overrated.

Nearmyth

Twas a bit of a jest ::)
I probably haven't seen all the praise and recognition of this song that others have seen, so until then I feel like it's underrated.
In fact most I've seen is people saying it's overrated, so I think to me it's one of those "so overrated it's underrated" types of deals ;D

Nearmyth

#1336
Twas a bit of a jest ::)
I probably haven't seen all the praise and recognition of this song that others have seen, so until then I feel like it's underrated.
In fact most I've seen is people saying it's overrated, so I think to me it's one of those "so overrated it's underrated" types of deals ;D

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 20, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal
Yes, and I'm sure a ton of people here LOVE that chord progression. So the song isn't underrated.

Well it's called a controversial opinion for a reason.

chaotic_ripper

Ytse Jam is my fav DT instrumental.


Ruba

Quote from: aprilethereal on August 20, 2013, 08:17:40 AM
TGP used to be my #1 DT song, now I'm not sure if it's even in my top 20 anymore.

Ditto, though I'm sure it doesn't make my top 20, let alone top 50.

Quote from: Nearmyth on August 20, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated.





:hat

It most definately is.

nicbor87

Here are some opinions:
-SFAM would have been mediocre if they had kept Derek
-ACOS and Razor's Edge are ridiculously overrated
-Count of Tuscany has great lyrics and -BCSL is their second best album to date
-One Last Time > Through Her Eyes > The Spirit Carries On
-Ministry of Lost Souls is too short..........nah, just kidding  :lol

Kotowboy

Quote-Count of Tuscany has great lyrics and -BCSL is their second best album to date

The Count of Tuscany is nowhere near Octavarium's levels.

A Rite Of Passage is really mediocre.

A Nightmare To Remember is far too long.


rumborak

My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.

Lucien

Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.

:omg:

King Postwhore

Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Orthogonal

I can see them changing their style over the next decade as they age and are no longer able to perform certain songs at the same level, but to call it quits after 2 more albums? That's a pretty bold prediction. I imagine they are all doing well financially, but probably not to the point that they can retire and live on royalties for the rest of their lives.

Lucien

I think they're going to do WWRD and just keep going until they physically can't. The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?

GasparXR

Quote from: Lucien on August 21, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
I think they're going to do WWRD and just keep going until they physically can't. The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?

Not to mention, not even he is showing any signs of slowing down.

Onno

Quote from: Lucien on August 21, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?
I don't think it is, there are a lot of famous pianists who pretty much just kept going until they were dead.

Kotowboy

Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on August 20, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
My contraversial opinion (not truth but opinion)

Derek Sherinian was the best keyboardist DT had, followed by Kevin, and finally the beared android.

I definitely prefer Derek to Kevin.

Kotowboy

Quote from: kingshmegland on August 21, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

jsbru

One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D

Kotowboy

I'd rather Derek came back before Kevin. Much preferred his style.

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

rumborak

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 21, 2013, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on August 21, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.

adastra

Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.

BlobVanDam

#1356
Quote from: adastra on August 21, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.

Um no, still just opinion.


Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on August 21, 2013, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on August 21, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.

I think you're mixing up own opinion with public opinion here. DT appears to be remaining very steady in terms of popularity, so I don't think lack of interest will be any reason to stop.
Age or lineup will be the most likely reason, and while their demanding music does have its issues as you've mentioned, I think they'll just start easing up on the balls to the wall stuff, and maybe go lighter on touring and recording, rather than sticking to the 2 year schedule.

And when did this thread turn from controversial opinions to controversial theories anyway?! :lol

adastra

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 21, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: adastra on August 21, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.

Um no, still just opinion.


But Someone who knows more than others told me that it is a fact  :-\

Orthogonal

Quote from: rumborak on August 21, 2013, 10:08:26 PM
I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.

Lack of interest? You mean people stop going to concerts and buying the albums? Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought they were as big as ever right now in terms of fanbase. I don't see that collapsing in the next ~5 years.

Mosh

After reading some comments in TEI thread, this might be a controversial opinion: I think OTBOA is the best song on ADTOE.

krieger

Quote from: jsbru on August 21, 2013, 05:24:17 PM
One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D

Altough I love the music KM makes, I really doubt he would return. Besides, I can't see him playing any solo for the rest of his life. Every solo from DT would be removed in the live shows!  :biggrin:

?

Quote from: jsbru on August 21, 2013, 05:24:17 PM
One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D
JM will cut his hair before that happens (read: it's impossible) :lol

Kotowboy

It still feels to me like DT are still climbing in popularity. This new album may well welcome on board a lot of new fans.

lyfeternl

JR is the best keyboard player DT has had and could not be replaced *raises flameshield for the KM lovers*

Podaar

Quote from: lyfeternl on August 22, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
JR is the best keyboard player DT has had and could not be replaced *raises flameshield for the KM lovers*

No controversy from me.