Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[aprilethereal]

(SYSTEMATIC CHAOS IS MORE CONSISTENT THAN IMAGES AND WORDS, GUYS)

Yeah, it's more consistently weak

Hey, get your boring and predictable, non-controversial (also untrue) opinions out of here. 

[serrano]

Even if i like SC a lot, i could never call it consistent 

[aprilethereal]

CM is not that great, same with the samples-from-other-guys section of Repentance, but at least it doesn't have four boring songs in a row like I&W has.

[Estiui]

CM is not that great, same with the samples-from-other-guys section of Repentance, but at least it doesn't have four boring songs in a row like I&W has.

Seriously, which four songs are you thinking of?

[Kotowboy]

He probably meant Images & Words has 4 boring MINUTES in a row - which are the 4 minutes before you start listening to Images & Words.

[aprilethereal]

Pull Me Under - Another Day - Take The Time - Surrounded

I like Surrounded quite a bit, but it's still incredible that these songs are on the same album as the following four, which are simply excellent.

[PixelDream]

I've been listening more to Train of Thought lately and I think it is a very solid album. I think most instrumental sections fit the themes of the songs perfectly, and the lyrics and music make a genuinely emotional impact. It's growing on me again and I think it might end up as one of my favorite DT records alongside SDOIT, I&W and Awake. Thus the controversial opinion here: I like ToT better than SFAM.

[aprilethereal]

TOT is a lot better than just "solid".

[Estiui]

Pull Me Under - Another Day - Take The Time - Surrounded

I like Surrounded quite a bit, but it's still incredible that these songs are on the same album as the following four, which are simply excellent.

Two of my top 10 ever are there. You've just killed me I can't understand how will someone consider TTT boring. I think that song is everything but boring, even if you don't like it 

[aprilethereal]

It just doesn't excite me in the slightest, so I think I can call it a boring song (in my opinion of course, it's great that you and most others like it).

[TheGreatPretender]

Two of my top 10 ever are there. You've just killed me I can't understand how will someone consider TTT boring. I think that song is everything but boring, even if you don't like it 

I love every song on I&W, but if I had to throw one away, it would definitely be TTT. I think it's the most overrated song on the album, considering how much praise it gets.

[The Stray Seed]

To my ears, TTT sounds as pure awesomeness.

[Tomislav95]

Two of my top 10 ever are there. You've just killed me I can't understand how will someone consider TTT boring. I think that song is everything but boring, even if you don't like it 

I love every song on I&W, but if I had to throw one away, it would definitely be TTT. I think it's the most overrated song on the album, considering how much praise it gets.

+1

[BlobVanDam]

To my ears, TTT sounds as pure awesomeness.

To my ears, TTT sounds like angels dancing on a cloud made of sex while unicorns weep tears of joy from their pillow fortress.

[Estiui]

To my ears, TTT sounds as pure awesomeness.

Absolutely, I think that TTT is the freshest DT song. Always powerful, always uplifting. Best DT with LTL IMO.

To my ears, TTT sounds like angels dancing on a cloud made of sex while unicorns weep tears of joy from their pillow fortress.

Agreed 

[serrano]

It's actually funny that i think TTT may be DT's best work from the songwriting point of view but it's one of the songs i care less about in I&W (Which means nothing).

[Ruba]

Even if i like SC a lot, i could never call it consistent 

The same.

I've been listening more to Train of Thought lately and I think it is a very solid album. I think most instrumental sections fit the themes of the songs perfectly, and the lyrics and music make a genuinely emotional impact. It's growing on me again and I think it might end up as one of my favorite DT records alongside SDOIT, I&W and Awake. Thus the controversial opinion here: I like ToT better than SFAM.

My controversial opinion about Train of Thought: it's my least favourite DT album. I don't enjoy that heavy music often, and James sounds rather weak. I don't know why, and I know he is able to sing even heavier music (I like Elements of Persuasion). And the songs aren't very good, except Honor Thy Father, Vacant and SOC. The only song I dislike, however, is As I Am.

[Whatsername]

Pull Me Under - Another Day - Take The Time - Surrounded

I like Surrounded quite a bit, but it's still incredible that these songs are on the same album as the following four, which are simply excellent.

Those are three of my favorites on the album.

Honestly, I think the entire album is really strong, so even ones that I like less are still excellent songs.

Oh wait, controversial options...

Uh....

Scenes from a Memory is boring! Am I doing it right?

[aprilethereal]

My controversial opinion about Train of Thought: it's my least favourite DT album. I don't enjoy that heavy music often, and James sounds rather weak. I don't know why, and I know he is able to sing even heavier music (I like Elements of Persuasion). And the songs aren't very good, except Honor Thy Father, Vacant and SOC. The only song I dislike, however, is As I Am.

no

[Dark Castle]

Even if i like SC a lot, i could never call it consistent 

The same.

I've been listening more to Train of Thought lately and I think it is a very solid album. I think most instrumental sections fit the themes of the songs perfectly, and the lyrics and music make a genuinely emotional impact. It's growing on me again and I think it might end up as one of my favorite DT records alongside SDOIT, I&W and Awake. Thus the controversial opinion here: I like ToT better than SFAM.

My controversial opinion about Train of Thought: it's my least favourite DT album. I don't enjoy that heavy music often, and James sounds rather weak. I don't know why, and I know he is able to sing even heavier music (I like Elements of Persuasion). And the songs aren't very good, except Honor Thy Father, Vacant and SOC. The only song I dislike, however, is As I Am.

THANK YOU. I mean it's probably not at the levels of despise that I dwell in, but I'm glad I'm not the only one that ranks it squarely at bottom.

[TheGreatPretender]

It's actually funny that i think TTT may be DT's best work from the songwriting point of view

I don't see how. Seems like a pretty average DT song to me. (which still makes it great in the grand scheme of music) But nothing about the songwriting makes it better than Metropolis, Learning to Live, or any of their other greats.
And those lyrics: "It's time to take the time" 

Also reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD7p1dyF7x0

[Whatsername]

It's actually funny that i think TTT may be DT's best work from the songwriting point of view

I don't see how. Seems like a pretty average DT song to me. (which still makes it great in the grand scheme of music) But nothing about the songwriting makes it better than Metropolis, Learning to Live, or any of their other greats.
And those lyrics: "It's time to take the time" 

Also reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD7p1dyF7x0

That's hilarious, because I actually don't like Learning To Live as much. And incidentally, Metropolis and Under A Glass Moon have grown on me exponentially recently.

Edit: I want Dream Theater to redo TTT just like that video for the tour next year. Is it too late to request that?

[Grizz]

Cut I&W songs > Uncut

[Lucidity]

Pull Me Under - Another Day - Take The Time - Surrounded

I like Surrounded quite a bit, but it's still incredible that these songs are on the same album as the following four, which are simply excellent.

I don't completely agree with this, but I definitely see where you're coming from. Pull Me Under, Another Day, and Take The Time are not up to par with the other songs on the album (although I don't think any of them are particularly bad, so to speak).

[Outcrier]

Lost Not Forgotten and Bridges In The Sky are the most cohesive songs in ADTOE.
Breaking All Illusions i despise because it's just a failed attempt to be learning to live again, if you understand what i'm saying... just dump all song, take 9:05-9:50 and make a new song 

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Another Day is my favorite song from Images and Words.

[Dark Castle]

Lost Not Forgotten and Bridges In The Sky are the most cohesive songs in ADTOE.
Breaking All Illusions i despise because it's just a failed attempt to be learning to live again, if you understand what i'm saying... just dump all song, take 9:05-9:50 and make a new song 

I don't understand at all 

Outcry, Lost Not Forgotten, and Bridges In the Sky are the top 3 songs on ADToE regardless, but the entire album is hella radular

[Zook]

Lost Not Forgotten and Bridges In The Sky are the most cohesive songs in ADTOE.
Breaking All Illusions i despise because it's just a failed attempt to be learning to live again, if you understand what i'm saying... just dump all song, take 9:05-9:50 and make a new song 

It's funny you say this because Lost Not Forgotten is just a failed attempt to be Under a Glass Moon again.

If you understand what I'm saying.

[Outcrier]

Because there are various parts in the song that sounds like LtL, in terms of structure.
In the middle, a section that resembles ITPOE intro and theme comes out of nowhere and after that, finally comes that "they didn't know what to do" part, so, put a Petrucci solo in it, so the fans can mast***bate or whatever

[425]

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would complain about a long, non-pointlessly-shreddy guitar solo. I love it when a skilled guitarist like Petrucci takes a minute or two or even more to play a well-constructed solo. To me, that part is one of the highlights of BAI. Similarly, the guitar solo is my favorite part of several other songs like Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand and the Goodnight Kiss movement of SDOIT.

[Outcrier]

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would complain about a long, non-pointlessly-shreddy guitar solo. I love it when a skilled guitarist like Petrucci takes a minute or two or even more to play a well-constructed solo. To me, that part is one of the highlights of BAI. Similarly, the guitar solo is my favorite part of several other songs like Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand and the Goodnight Kiss movement of SDOIT.

The diference is that in ToQQ, LitS and G , the solos are much more inspired, well constructed and memorable... it doesn't compare

[425]

Well, I personally think that the BAI solo is very inspired and memorable, but... opinions.

[Outcrier]

But you would agree that BAI solo is better than any of these other ones you said?

[425]

I don't think it's better. Trial of Tears is probably my favorite of all those. But I think it's definitely in the same league as the ones I listed. And even if it wasn't, it would still be very good.

[King Postwhore]

I am still amazed when someone tries to push their likes on another like it's gospel.