I don't like Six Degrees.

[ApparatusUnearth]

The song, not the album. The rest of the album is solid. But the song seems like they wanted to write a really long song and they did, but it's pretty directionless. It's not cohesive like Octavarium or A Change of Seasons is, where even though there are different sections, you can tell they came from the same song. Maybe it's on purpose, since that song is supposed to change moods due to the changing stories, but I just can't get into it and I've listened to it quite a lot.

Is there anyone else out there that isn't into this song?

[KevShmev]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts. 

[BlobVanDam]

I'm not saying that you're wrong...........






.......but you're wrong.

[7thHanyou]

It's always sounded like less of a song to me than a series of songs thematically linked.

That said, it's the highlight of the album for me. Excepting disappear, I actually find the rest of the album too uneven. The title song is pretty much the only one I listen to anymore.

[ResultsMayVary]

I'm not saying that you're wrong...........






.......but you're wrong.

[Scorpion]

The song, not the album. The rest of the album is solid. But the song seems like they wanted to write a really long song and they did, but it's pretty directionless. It's not cohesive like Octavarium or A Change of Seasons is, where even though there are different sections, you can tell they came from the same song. Maybe it's on purpose, since that song is supposed to change moods due to the changing stories, but I just can't get into it and I've listened to it quite a lot.

Is there anyone else out there that isn't into this song?

I agree somewhat, but as Kev said, most of the individual movements are great on their own, with the exception of Overture and Losing Time.

[SystematicThought]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

Pretty much this. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever listened to it as one whole song, but rather in parts.

[ResultsMayVary]

I always listen to the entire song when I do listen to it. And it is my favorite Dream Theater song, so I respectfully disagree.

[BlobVanDam]

I always listen to the entire song when I do listen to it. And it is my favorite Dream Theater song, so I respectfully disagree.

All of that. I have never once listened to it in parts, and I have listened to it a LOT. Those 42 minutes fly by every time.
I'm not sure whether it's my favourite or second favourite DT song though. It's in a constant battle with TGP for top spot.

[Kotowboy]

I always listen to the entire song when I do listen to it. And it is my favorite Dream Theater song, so I respectfully disagree.

This. But Octavarium and not Six Degrees.

[Cedar redaC]

The song, not the album. The rest of the album is solid. But the song seems like they wanted to write a really long song and they did, but it's pretty directionless. It's not cohesive like Octavarium or A Change of Seasons is, where even though there are different sections, you can tell they came from the same song. Maybe it's on purpose, since that song is supposed to change moods due to the changing stories, but I just can't get into it and I've listened to it quite a lot.

Is there anyone else out there that isn't into this song?

I agree somewhat, but as Kev said, most of the individual movements are great on their own, with the exception of Overture and Losing Time.

I think Losing Time is amazing, I wouldn't end Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence any other way

[KevShmev]

Aside from that last note needlessly going on that long, I agree that Losing Time/Grand Finale is utterly fantastic.

[theseoafs]

I'm not saying that you're wrong...........






.......but you're wrong.

Yup.

[Implode]

Six Degrees is incredible. That's all there really is to say on the matter.

[Pols Voice]

It's good, but I don't like it as much as I used to. A Change of Seasons beats the everloving crap out of it.

[Kotowboy]

I don't like Six Degrees.

I must admit...



I do prefer my summers a little warmer...

[SomeoneLikeHim]

Six Degrees is incredible. That's all there really is to say on the matter.

+9001

[BlobVanDam]

It's good, but I don't like it as much as I used to. A Change of Seasons beats the everloving crap out of it.

I rank SDOIT #1/2. ACOS would be lucky to even make my top 50. Hugely overrated imo.

[Scorpion]

It's good, but I don't like it as much as I used to. A Change of Seasons beats the everloving crap out of it.

Also this.

[Ħ]

SDOIT is probably my favorite song by DT. But I can see how one could get tired of the constant orchestral reprises and whatnot.

[snapple]

What's getting lost in this thread:

the poster called 8VM "cohesive" 

nice try OP

[TL]

I know the band calls it a song, but I've always seen SDOIT as more of a suite or mini-album (or, since it's 42 minutes long, I suppose it's more of a full album within an album).

[snowdog]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

I agree that they are better individually.  Though rather than listening to them separately I just don't find myself listening to the song much at all.  Actually I don't listen to much of the album as I really only care for TGP, Misunderstood, and Disappear.  Heresy to most of the people on this board I know but I personally find the album as a whole to be bloated.

[ricky]

i do like the song. i agree with the above posts though, i've come to think of that second cd more of a collection of individual songs, not just one long one. just how i see things, i guess.

[Dublagent66]

I always listen to the entire song when I do listen to it. And it is my favorite Dream Theater song, so I respectfully disagree.

All of that. I have never once listened to it in parts, and I have listened to it a LOT. Those 42 minutes fly by every time.

Same here.  Fastest 42 mins of music that I've ever heard.   

[TAC]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

I agree. Honestly when I first heard it, I thought musically, it was quite beneath their abilities. I don't mind a simple song, but this was really a simple epic, and that never really made sense to me.

[Rattlehead]

I wasn't a huge fan of it either at first, it took a long time to grow on me as did a lot of DT's discography. Kev hit the nail on the head though, couldn't have said it better myself.   

[Kotowboy]

Six Degrees is incredible. That's all there really is to say on the matter.

+9001

[ApparatusUnearth]

Interesting to hear that lots of big Dream Theater fans like Six Degrees better in parts.

Also, yeah, Octavarium (the song) is mad cohesive!

[slycordinator]

What's getting lost in this thread:

the poster called 8VM "cohesive" 

nice try OP

I think when it was said that octavarium is cohesive, that's referring to the song rather than the whole album. And I tend to agree that it's more cohesive than the song SDOIT. Though it doesn't make it better, per se.

[ApparatusUnearth]

What's getting lost in this thread:

the poster called 8VM "cohesive" 

nice try OP

I think when it was said that octavarium is cohesive, that's referring to the song rather than the whole album. And I tend to agree that it's more cohesive than the song SDOIT. Though it doesn't make it better, per se.

For the record I should clarify that I meant the song.

[orcus116]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

I agree. Honestly when I first heard it, I thought musically, it was quite beneath their abilities. I don't mind a simple song, but this was really a simple epic, and that never really made sense to me.

Best way I've heard it put. There really isn't a single part that's on that next level on its own and as a whole I don't get a lot of satisfaction out of it. Ambitious, sure but I'm glad it's tacked on as its own disc so I can enjoy how great the first one is.

[Ruba]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

Kev is spot on as much as one can be.

[userx]

never listened to the whole six degrees. i only listen to about to crash and solitary shell

[RuRoRul]

I agree that it is pretty directionless and clunky when taken as a single song, but aside from the Overture (which starts off great, but goes on way too long), I like every individual part a lot; they are all just better listened to in parts.

Agreed. Except I'm not that big a fan of Losing Time / Grand Finale either. But listening to the full thing doesn't feel like just listening to one song as Octavarium etc. does. And even though there are great parts, they don't add up to make something that's better as a whole.