Lost Not Forgotten live v turn that frown upside down :)

Started by snapple, June 20, 2012, 05:48:42 PM

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snapple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpEHhGI5E4o

this is the only video i can find. anyone have luck finding a full version?

johncal

No, but it sounds pretty much flawless.......as usual!

chrisbDTM


Stonestef

There's also this, but it starts from JP's solo like the one you posted. It's closer to the stage though. I think I found it here on DTF a couple days ago, I'm not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayj9yGjdJEo

If there is any video of LNF uploaded, then they mustn't have set the right tags because I search daily for "Lost Not Forgotten Live" and then sort it by upload date and all it shows is videos about recovery of forgotten passwords!

wasteland

Here's the full song (and the full 19/6 concert), thanks to gilpdawg and his friend, the taper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003sFEUl4Ck&t=2726

RaiseTheKnife

Interesting that they use taped backing vocals on this song.  I love singing along to the lower harmony, but damn I don't think I could play that tricky guitar riff and sing the harmony.

Scorpion

Since they don't seem to have problems with backing vocals from tape, they should bust out Don't Look Past Me - wasn't it the multi-layered vocals that made this song impossible to perform?

wasteland

Quote from: Scorpion on June 21, 2012, 02:58:26 AM
Since they don't seem to have problems with backing vocals from tape, they should bust out Don't Look Past Me - wasn't it the multi-layered vocals that made this song impossible to perform?

I think that the main issue with it now is that the main vocal line is very demanding for James to sing, and frequent performances may take a toll on his voice...

Still, he's been constantly singing other difficult songs like Surrounded and 6:00 and no health issue has arised yet over this, so maybe my theory isn't valid anymore.

Progmetty

I kinda don't wanna see LNF until I do live, which I haven't done with any of the previous songs from ADTOE.
So JLB uses the CD for backing vocals on LNF but only for the chorus, right? He has never done this before if I recall right?

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Progmetty on June 21, 2012, 03:50:45 AM
I kinda don't wanna see LNF until I do live, which I haven't done with any of the previous songs from ADTOE.
So JLB uses the CD for backing vocals on LNF but only for the chorus, right? He has never done this before if I recall right?

They started doing it this tour, likely due to the absence of MP for backing vocals. They've been doing it for Forsaken this tour too. Not sure about any other songs though.

Mladen

I think JP's backing vocals are also playing from a CD.

I'm not too crazy about this footage of This is the life and Lost not forgotten, perhaps they still need to get into it, but they don't sound quite right to me. Maybe the video sounds weak, though...

Tomislav95

Lost Not Forgotten is great but I thought TITL will be more energic live :-\

snapple

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Quote from: wasteland on June 21, 2012, 01:59:12 AM
Here's the full song (and the full 19/6 concert), thanks to gilpdawg and his friend, the taper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003sFEUl4Ck&t=2726

:emoticonwheresnapplegetsaboneranditexplodes

and jmx is still animated*


*animated for jmx standards

edit: and the way JLB sings the first part of BITS is awesome.

MirzekDT

They no longer play that awesome new outro in TROAE! Why would they do that ??? WHY?!  :sad:

Mladen

Because it isn't followed by a drum solo anymore. They can go back to the original, which is just as beautiful.

Ultimetalhead

I thought the reason they couldn't play it on the first tour was because of the tickle section being fucking ridiculously difficult to pull off in a full-band setting. I have to admit, that's the part I'm most looking forward to seeing on the whole damned show. :caffeine:

I worry about This is the Life being a bit of a bore, but the guitar solo should be pretty neat, at least.

KevShmev

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on June 21, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
I thought the reason they couldn't play it on the first tour was because of the tickle section being fucking ridiculously difficult to pull off in a full-band setting

Nah, that was merely incorrect fan speculation.  Shocking that that would happen here, I know. :lol

skydivingninja

I really hope LNF and TITL don't make it onto the DVD.  Easily my least favorites from ADTOE. 

BlobVanDam

Quote from: skydivingninja on June 21, 2012, 08:39:23 AM
I really hope LNF and TITL don't make it onto the DVD.  Easily my least favorites from ADTOE. 

Then you could just skip them? That's what the next button is for. :p
They're my favourite songs from the album, so I hope they do get included. Actually, I'd like to see most of the album to get included.

bosk1

Quote from: KevShmev on June 21, 2012, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on June 21, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
I thought the reason they couldn't play it on the first tour was because of the tickle section being fucking ridiculously difficult to pull off in a full-band setting

Nah, that was merely incorrect fan speculation.  Shocking that that would happen here, I know. :lol

Correct.  BUT I think there is legitimate reason to believe there may be a grain of truth to it in the sense that Mangini being the new guy already had a steep learning curve to climb just in learning all kinds of new material.  To throw in something that hard on top of it would have been pretty brutal.

Ultimetalhead

Right, but the whole backing vocals thing doesn't really make sense either. They were already using some backing tracks for Forsaken. On top of that, there's nothing super acrobatic in the vocals department that couldn't be reproduced every night. They're playing Surrounded and Metropolis on this tour, which are both way tougher.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: bosk1 on June 21, 2012, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 21, 2012, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on June 21, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
I thought the reason they couldn't play it on the first tour was because of the tickle section being fucking ridiculously difficult to pull off in a full-band setting

Nah, that was merely incorrect fan speculation.  Shocking that that would happen here, I know. :lol

Correct.  BUT I think there is legitimate reason to believe there may be a grain of truth to it in the sense that Mangini being the new guy already had a steep learning curve to climb just in learning all kinds of new material.  To throw in something that hard on top of it would have been pretty brutal.

They also had to learn Outcry, which was also a tough one for them to learn, probably tougher.
I recall that every member gave their input to the setlist, so there may have been any number of reasons why TITL and LNF were the ones held back. May have been based on DT's favourites, or maybe what songs they felt the fans most wanted to hear off the new album. Out of the 4 epics, I think BAI and BITS were sure things due to fan response, and I know JR loves Outcry, so maybe the others felt the same, and LNF was just omitted by process of elimination. Or maybe they chose by spinning a wheel (WHEEL OF FORTUNE.......... IN LIES).
Maybe having one of the more difficult passages on the album was a factor, maybe not. Only the wheel knows....

snapple

Or maybe they knew people would want LNF so they held off on it to give people a reason to see them again.

Progmetty

I imagine This is The Life would be a fun sing along live.

Shadow2222

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2012, 09:06:40 AM
Or maybe they chose by spinning a wheel (WHEEL OF FORTUNE.......... IN LIES).
Maybe having one of the more difficult passages on the album was a factor, maybe not. Only the wheel knows....

The first thought that popped into my head was a casino wheel containing You Not Me, Raw Dog, and the Majesty songs, as well as A Change of Seasons on the tiny (jackpot) sliver  :lol

Implode

So what about the high harmony in the chorus of TROAE? Who sang that?

theGonz

Quote from: wasteland on June 21, 2012, 01:59:12 AM
Here's the full song (and the full 19/6 concert), thanks to gilpdawg and his friend, the taper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=003sFEUl4Ck&t=2726

In case you JUST want to see Lost Not Forgotten, its starts at 45:45.

theseoafs


yesrushdt

Playing the pre-recorded vocal parts is so unnecessary.  Would much rather prefer a stripped down version without the background vocals.  I want to hear a live performance not freaking Memorex.  Don't care for any band doing this be it DT, Rush, Yes whoever. 

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: yesrushdt on June 22, 2012, 06:35:58 PM
Playing the pre-recorded vocal parts is so unnecessary.  Would much rather prefer a stripped down version without the background vocals.  I want to hear a live performance not freaking Memorex.  Don't care for any band doing this be it DT, Rush, Yes whoever.

lol chill. DT has mostly played without samples in their live career, and there's really nothing wrong with having some back up tracks. Heck, there are bands/artist that use enormous amounts of backing tracks, like Nightwish or Peter Gabriel. Do you imagine a Nightwish song without the huge orchestra behind?

Yeah, me either.

Kotowboy

When I go to a Dream Theater concert...



The last thing I wanna hear is Nightwish !

DarkLord_Lalinc

It was an example on how sometimes samples are necessary for some bands to recreate their album sound live. Maybe that's not Dream Theater's case, but I can't certainly see the sample triggering as a bad thing; with everyone knowing Dream Theater are excellent live performers.


Mladen

I just chimed in to post that link, it sounds brilliant. The guy going insane after the tickle section cracked me up.  :lol

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