2012-06-17 - Artpark - Lewiston, NY

[Shadow2222]

Ok, now I have to obsessively check this thread tonight to find out if there is a Set B, and if there is, will Set A or B be played tonight 

[Ultimetalhead]

Count me in as a part of the obsessively checking group.

[Implode]

Thirded.

[Shadow2222]

Well, it doesn't look like we have a forum member attending, so we might have to wait for setlist.fm 

[Rkeister]

i obsessively check setlist.fm after every concert during the tours just to know which set list ill get.

[JoeG]

Found this on twitter

[SystematicThought]

No rotation on this leg? Doesn't really bug me

[countoftuscany42]

or theyre just giving this an A set and counting the festival gig in the rotations, just without the B set..

[The Letter M]

or theyre just giving this an A set and counting the festival gig in the rotations, just without the B set..

So wait...was "Wait For Sleep" played the other night or not?? It's not on this set list.

-Marc.

[Jamariquay]

or theyre just giving this an A set and counting the festival gig in the rotations, just without the B set..

So wait...was "Wait For Sleep" played the other night or not?? It's not on this set list.

-Marc.

Yeah, I don't think it was. Someone at the Rochester show said that they played Wait For Sleep by accident (they hadn't). Shame really, I recall that they played Wait For Sleep and Surrounded back to back years ago (Images and Words tour I think), and it'd be a cool thing to bring back. Oh well.

[nlb]

The setlist was the same as in the Rochester show.  Great show last night.  Alsthough the theater was only about a third full. I dont understand it being a Sunday show.  It seems this show was under everyones radar. 

[wasteland]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AnURNWlpNo      6:00

[Shadow2222]

Interesting to see no set rotation. I was hoping to get Outcry (rotated with BAI) for the Cleveland show, but it doesn't seem likely.

[TAC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AnURNWlpNo      6:00

Great video.

[wasteland]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AnURNWlpNo      6:00

Great video.

Indeed. Too bad the song is not Metropolis, LnF or TITL...

[Shadow2222]

^ That is an awesome video. Love JP's expressions at the beginning of the video.

[wasteland]

Yeah! I laughed quite hard when he stuck out his tongue  Loved all those eye contacts with the camera, also, that's a veeery rare happening when it comes to bootlegs!

[nikatapi]

Great video, too bad MM's hihat has almost the same sound both opened and closed

[Ultimetalhead]

Very strange that there's been no rotation yet. I admit I would be kind of bummed to see the same set twice. I want at least a little bit of variety. 

[Madman Shepherd]

Interesting to see no set rotation. I was hoping to get Outcry (rotated with BAI) for the Cleveland show, but it doesn't seem likely.

Same for the Chicago show.  I also didn't get to hear beneath the surface and was hoping they'd put that in

[Shadow2222]

Yeah, it does seem odd, but wasteland pointed out in another thread that they didn't rotate on the Asian tour either. 

[FallTempest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayj9yGjdJEo - LNF solo and final chorus

[SystematicThought]

JLB sounds excellent on 6:00. I like the things he adds to it nowadays

[Ultimetalhead]

Yeah, it does seem odd, but wasteland pointed out in another thread that they didn't rotate on the Asian tour either. 

It's understandable for the Asian/European tour to not rotate sets. But when you're playing a bunch of shows right around the same general area, it's more incentive for people to go more than once if they switch it up a little bit.

I mean, hell. They rotated setlists on the last tour, and it was fine.

[wasteland]

(from the same user)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQkMjXBUVA&feature=channel&list=UL   Metropolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITwsjpFfmAs&feature=channel&list=UL    War/Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUNKR4kcMHs&feature=channel&list=UL  Surrounded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsz8v774FQY&feature=channel&list=UL   A Fortune In Laaaaais Solo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baSHUSC70kg&feature=channel&list=UL  Bridges In The Sky

I just have to say, JLB has improved since the European leg. And that's something I didn't think possible beforehand.

[SystematicThought]

Also, it's nice to see a band member wear something other than a black shirt. 

[Madman Shepherd]

JLB sounds excellent on 6:00. I like the things he adds to it nowadays

Same here.  They aren't a huge deviation but are relatively subtle that makes each performance a tad unique from the others. 

i also love that it doesn't seem like he is being restrained and walks about the stage freely and participates in a little banter...of course I don't want to get into another speculation about why that is 

[Shadow2222]

Woah woah woah! Did JLB record some new backing vocals for WIMH (by that I mean, replacing MP's vocals).

Around 52 seconds in that video, the backing vocals sound totally different than on the studio version ("waging the war inside my head").

If that was JP, that was an awesome vocal moment for him, because the rasp at the end sounded just like James.

[SystematicThought]

I'm pretty sure that's JP. That was amazing. He does great on TDEN too.

Man, JP has some great backing vocals.

[bosk1]

Woah woah woah! Did JLB record some new backing vocals for WIMH (by that I mean, replacing MP's vocals).

Around 52 seconds in that video, the backing vocals sound totally different than on the studio version ("waging the war inside my head").

If that was JP, that was an awesome vocal moment for him, because the rasp at the end sounded just like James.

Yeah, I think so.  Right before the chorus, he goes over to the mic.  Plus, if you keep watching, he is actually in frame on parts of the second chorus and you can see him singing it.  (plus, it sounds like him)

[ResultsMayVary]

This might be a long shot, but I have a few theories why there hasn't been any rotation thus far:

1) The first three shows weren't really close to the next show. US -> Canada -> US, i believe. Which means they could just be playing the same set because it is easier for those couple shows and the shows are not close to each other.

2) The Crimson Projekct hasn't even joined them on the tour yet (until tomorrow), so the "tour" hasn't really begun. They may start rotating either tomorrow in Columbus (or play the same set tomorrow and start rotating on Thursday in Cleveland).

3) They could have been using the sound checks of these first three shows to rehearse the rotating songs a bit more while playing the current set songs now a lot in order to start rotation when The Crimson Projekct joins the tour.

In other words, I wouldn't be too worried about any rotation problems until at least after the Cleveland show on Thursday. If they haven't rotated by then, I would be upset about it since they did it last tour and since those two shows are EXTREMELY close to each other. I believe that is when we will see some setlist rotation show up.

[SystematicThought]

Maybe the drum solo will return too.

They didn't play in Minnesota last time around so I haven't seen it yet. I know others don't want a solo, but I kind of want to see it

[Progmetty]

Fellas who're concerned about the rotating set lists; are you concerned cause you're going to more than one show? or is that you don't like this set list? I can't think of another reason.

[wasteland]

Fellas who're concerned about the rotating set lists; are you concerned cause you're going to more than one show? or is that you don't like this set list? I can't think of another reason.

I just would be happier if they played some additional other encores on different dates. Learning To Live comes to mind. The setlist is very good, but I that at least the last should change randomly every night, to keep a minimum degree of surprise for the audience. 

[bosk1]

Fellas who're concerned about the rotating set lists; are you concerned cause you're going to more than one show? or is that you don't like this set list? I can't think of another reason.

I think people are mostly concerned about Robert Trujillo showing up and making a guest appearance.