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Started by robwebster, April 24, 2012, 06:15:11 AM

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robwebster

Howdy, sports fans. Since JP's announced the next tour DVD's to be filmed on the upcoming North American leg, it seemed like a timely moment to ask how we all feel about the bonus features we've had thrown at us over the last few years.

Truth be told, I've got an ulterior motive for making this thread. I popped on Riding the Train of Thought the other day, just as something to watch in the background as I tidied away, and I'll level with you, I was glued to the bloody thing. Physically couldn't look away - it was brilliant. I'd just ploughed through the main feature perfectly content to leave it on in the background, but the documentary stopped me in my tracks. Funny, informative, and absolutely gorgeously directed; hands down my favourite extra on any DVD. Getting to see them rehearsing, learning new songs, the jet-lag, the nerves, the excitement... completely makes up for the lack of commentary. Seeing it beats hearing about it. Beautiful stuff.

So I'd been thinking of starting a Riding the Train of Thought Appreciation Society thread, but hey - why stop there? We've had some cracking stuff included on the DVDs in the past, and we've probably all got ideas we'd like to see realised on the next one. What are your favourites?

BlobVanDam

Yep, I'm definitely with you. Budokan had a whole variety of extras. The instrumedley multi-angle was a nice bonus, and I personally loved seeing the gear related stuff from JP and JR, plus the whole documentary.

Score's documentary was awesome too, although I like the variety of lots of little features, rather than solely the general documentary (although for the occasion it was definitely the right choice). But it was well done.

I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.

robwebster

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

BlobVanDam

Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Or was Metropolis 2000 released on DVD that year?

Speaking of MM, they should also throw in his entire audition tape. I don't care if it's a little rough and raw, that's the appeal. First time ever performance of DT with MM, no practice. I think it would be a testament to MM and the band's ability.
And I didn't consider MM. It would be great to hear the dynamic of MM doing commentary with the rest of DT now.

FlamTap

I personally loved the Easter Egg with Eric Disrude and his quest for a dollar from each band member. JLB.. :yarr

Shadow2222

Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

Metropolis 2000 was actually released in 2001, I believe, so it did sort of capture that "new member" feeling during the commentary.

Regardless, we absolutely have to get a commentary, I just love the personal touch it gives the show. Plus, hearing the guys talk so naturally between each other is much better than any interview.


Nick

JP did that? When/where and did he say which show would be filmed?

robwebster

Here's the link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMelewSIOA -- via Tomislav in the other thread!

And I think it's fair to assume it's the two-night stand in Huntingdon. Not a cert, but the most likely guess by far.

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 24, 2012, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

Metropolis 2000 was actually released in 2001, I believe, so it did sort of capture that "new member" feeling during the commentary.

Regardless, we absolutely have to get a commentary, I just love the personal touch it gives the show. Plus, hearing the guys talk so naturally between each other is much better than any interview.
Ah! Excellent. I wasn't sure if it was one they recorded in 2004 along with Live in Tokyo and Five Years, seeing as Met. 2000 kinda straddled the VHS/DVD boundary.

Nick

Damn, I'd LOOOOVE to go to that, but between money and it being in the middle of the week, it would just be tough.

Zydar

As long as we get audio commentaries again, I'm satisfied. Love them.

Nick

Oh, and to be fair, as much as I'd love to be near another filmed show, if the US gets it it should be West coast. That has always been a strong market for them as well and we were lucky enough to get two DVDs already in NYC.

Shadow2222

Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 10:26:09 AM
Here's the link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMelewSIOA -- via Tomislav in the other thread!

And I think it's fair to assume it's the two-night stand in Huntingdon. Not a cert, but the most likely guess by far.

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 24, 2012, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

Metropolis 2000 was actually released in 2001, I believe, so it did sort of capture that "new member" feeling during the commentary.

Regardless, we absolutely have to get a commentary, I just love the personal touch it gives the show. Plus, hearing the guys talk so naturally between each other is much better than any interview.
Ah! Excellent. I wasn't sure if it was one they recorded in 2004 along with Live in Tokyo and Five Years, seeing as Met. 2000 kinda straddled the VHS/DVD boundary.

The other one in 2004 was When Dream and Day Reunite, which surprisingly, many people do not seem to realize has an audio commentary.

robwebster

I... only forgot about it it 'cos I don't have it, regrettably! I hear that it's got a fantastic commentary, though. Johnny Myung chattering away like there's no tomorrow, apparently. I'd love to hear it one day. Too poor right now, sadly!

Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Oh, and to be fair, as much as I'd love to be near another filmed show, if the US gets it it should be West coast. That has always been a strong market for them as well and we were lucky enough to get two DVDs already in NYC.
I do very much agree with this, but wonder if there might be a logistical reason that they tend to favour the East Coast for DVDs.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 24, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
The other one in 2004 was When Dream and Day Reunite, which surprisingly, many people do not seem to realize has an audio commentary.

I'd say that's due to the fact that nowhere near as many people would have it, since it's not something you can generally pick up in a store, and the more limited appeal of the music.

Shadow2222

Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 10:43:34 AM
I... only forgot about it it 'cos I don't have it, regrettably! I hear that it's got a fantastic commentary, though. Johnny Myung chattering away like there's no tomorrow, apparently. I'd love to hear it one day. Too poor right now, sadly!

Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Oh, and to be fair, as much as I'd love to be near another filmed show, if the US gets it it should be West coast. That has always been a strong market for them as well and we were lucky enough to get two DVDs already in NYC.
I do very much agree with this, but wonder if there might be a logistical reason that they tend to favour the East Coast for DVDs.

You absolutely have to get it (someday, of course)! The Metropolis performance at the end is awesome, and the 1989 documentary that MP put together was great!

@BlobVanDam - True, but this is the DreamTheaterForums, where (nearly) everyone is a die hard DT fan.

jcmistat

Does DT reveal that they're filming the show to the crowd or is it obvious that there's a bunch of camera dudes. I'd also say I'd be surprised if DVD isn't being filmed at the double NY shows.

robwebster

Quote from: jcmistat on April 24, 2012, 12:28:04 PM
Does DT reveal that they're filming the show to the crowd or is it obvious that there's a bunch of camera dudes. I'd also say I'd be surprised if DVD isn't being filmed at the double NY shows.
I think - thiiiiiink - that they have, by law, to put up signs saying "This show is being filmed for a DVD. By entering you hereby consent to use your image" blah blah blah, so they're covered if they cut to you in an audience shot. As far as I'm aware!

So, yeah, you'd know.

(The camera dudes are something of a clue, too, mind.)

lyfeternl

I will happily request 5 hours of bonus feature footage which includes a full documentary of this tour, the making/recordning of ADTOE, and the entire drummer auditions.  :biggrin:

*fingers crossed*

Shadow2222

I'd love to think that at least one extra special song will be played, or at least something special. Discounting Chaos in Motion as it was multi-show (and Live in Tokyo, as nothing special was done), 5 Years in a Livetime contained the covers with other musicians, Metropolis 2000 had the live hypnotherapist and ACOS (although back then, the epics were much more common in sets), WDADRU had the obvious full album performance, LAB had Disappear, and Score had the orchestra.

WDADRU does make me think though, as this is right around the 20th anniversary of I&W. I know they just did it five years ago in full, but not on DVD. Hmmm...

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

Totally agree with you that having a feature about Mangini would be great (how he grew up, how he got involved in music, bands he played in, working at Berklee).



Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:31:47 AM
Speaking of MM, they should also throw in his entire audition tape. I don't care if it's a little rough and raw, that's the appeal. First time ever performance of DT with MM, no practice. I think it would be a testament to MM and the band's ability.

Amen! I'd love to hear the improv jam they did with him, as well as the songs that they wrote specifically for the auditions, since we barely got to hear much of that.



Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 10:26:09 AM
And I think it's fair to assume it's the two-night stand in Huntingdon. Not a cert, but the most likely guess by far.

It makes the most sense, tho it would be nice to seem them film it in another city where they have a significant audience since both LSFNY and Score were already done there. LA comes to mind (and not just because I'll be at the show) but maybe Chicago, Toronto or another large city. In any case, just having another live release will be great, and it certainly makes the most sense that they would film in NY since they're doing back-to-back shows there. They can do the A and B setlists and combine them to produce an "Evening With" length release.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

olliemedsy

I want a chilli eating competition video.

comment

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 24, 2012, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: robwebster on April 24, 2012, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 24, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
I would love another commentary from the guys, because the WDADRU and Metropolis 2000 ones were informative, and had some very memorable banter. Commentaries have always been a huge selling point for me, whether it's movies or TV boxsets, or whatever.
Totally. I think now would be the perfect time to record a commentary, thanks to one very important Mangini. The perspective of the new guy could be its own fifteen minute feature, would be a hell of a historical document. I seem to remember the first commentaries were about 2004? So this'd be the first (and possibly last!) chance to capture a member's baptism. Unless Metropolis 2000 was released on DVD in 2000?

Metropolis 2000 was actually released in 2001, I believe, so it did sort of capture that "new member" feeling during the commentary.

Regardless, we absolutely have to get a commentary, I just love the personal touch it gives the show. Plus, hearing the guys talk so naturally between each other is much better than any interview.

:tup :tup :tup  Definitely commentary with MM!

Behind the scenes tour highlights -  Antics and outtakes, hopefully a fun camaraderie is developing.  It would be cool to see the band have some authentic traditions starting, a silly back story that becomes an inside joke or footage of them doing something fun together.

MM expose' -  Audition footage, bio, etc.




TheGreatPretender

How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.

robwebster

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.
They've had one on every DVD so far, don't see why they'd stop now.

Mladen

I'd like a commentary, mostly because they haven't done that in a while. As for other features, I'm not sure. They could throw in some songs from MM's audition, that would be fun, but I don't know if that's likely to happen.

Kotowboy

Quote from: robwebster on April 25, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.
They've had one on every DVD so far, don't see why they'd stop now.

Shadow2222

Quote from: robwebster on April 25, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.
They've had one on every DVD so far, don't see why they'd stop now.

Actually, JM has a commentary track on all of my DVDs. I have a dedicated button on my remote for it. I think it stands for Myung Ultimate Television Experience.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 25, 2012, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: robwebster on April 25, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.
They've had one on every DVD so far, don't see why they'd stop now.

Actually, JM has a commentary track on all of my DVDs. I have a dedicated button on my remote for it. I think it stands for Myung Ultimate Television Experience.

Wait, are you guys pulling my leg?

Kotowboy

Myung has done a commentary track on every DVD. In fact youre listening to it right now.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Shadow2222 on April 25, 2012, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: robwebster on April 25, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.
They've had one on every DVD so far, don't see why they'd stop now.

Actually, JM has a commentary track on all of my DVDs. I have a dedicated button on my remote for it. I think it stands for Myung Ultimate Television Experience.

:lol :clap:

Nick

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 25, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
How about an entire concert length commentary with JM by himself.

I saw this and was immediately considering my whitty retort, only to find everyone already hit on all my basic premises. :lol