Most experimental/weird song in DT's catalog?

[mocool13]

The Great Debate seems like a good pick for this. Any others, in your opinions?

[Tomislav95]

Misunderstood is pretty weird but great song

[BlobVanDam]

I'll throw in Disappear too. Basically just the SDOIT album.

[Ħ]

I always thought The Mirror was weird. Metropolis is pretty weird too if you think about it.

[Ruba]

The Great Debate seems like a good pick for this. Any others, in your opinions?

No. It is actually quite simple for 13 minutes long song. It uses same riffs quite much between the intro part and breakdown.

It's a fun guitar song, though I cannot play the instrumental section (except the riff under Jordan's solo).

Experimental... hmmm... New Millennium.

[jingle.boy]

TDEN for me.  Between the UBER heavy riffs, growls from James, screams from Mike, fantastical lyrics, and the keyboard outro  ... well, that's the one that fits the bill of this topic for me.

[hefdaddy42]

The Great Debate seems like a good pick for this.

Why?  "Hey, guys, let's sound like Tool for 13 minutes."

Misunderstood is pretty weird but great song

Yeah, the backward guitar stuff is experimental for DT.

I always thought The Mirror was weird. Metropolis is pretty weird too if you think about it.

What's weird about either of those?

[SeRoX]

Disappear, IMO. Even now it doesn't sound like DT but somehow it makes me feel it belongs to DT. Don't know, I can't explain. 

[GalacticGuitarist87]

Raw Dog for sure

[ResultsMayVary]

Misunderstood is pretty weird but great song

I'll throw in Disappear too. Basically just the SDOIT album.

[BlobVanDam]

TDEN for me.  Between the UBER heavy riffs, growls from James, screams from Mike, fantastical lyrics, and the keyboard outro  ... well, that's the one that fits the bill of this topic for me.

Oh I'll second that one. The entire style of writing includes elements that are not typical to DT. It's so chromatic almost to the point of being atonal at times, and the song is based heavily around rhythmic variations. Even the vocals and keyboard solo are mostly lacking in melody.
I value melody in songwriting over any other element, and yet still this song completely succeeds for me with all of its ideas.

[RuRoRul]

Misunderstood is the one that always comes to mind.

Although really anything that sounds very different for them could qualify: The Dark Eternal Night, Prophets Of War, Build Me Up, Break Me Down.

[KevShmev]

I think the obvious answer here is Metropolis.  Think about it, at the time that came out, in 1992, who else was doing stuff like that?  No one that I know of.  Just because DT made it one of their signature styles and sounds doesnt change the fact that at the time, it was very experimental. 

[Ruba]

Misunderstood is the one that always comes to mind.

Although really anything that sounds very different for them could qualify: The Dark Eternal Night, Prophets Of War, Build Me Up, Break Me Down.

Yes, Prophets of War is totally different. I love it.

[?]

Misunderstood was the first that came to mind when I saw the title of this thread

[skydivingninja]

Misunderstood, Outcry, Disappear, The Dark Eternal Night, and Prophets of War seem to be good contenders (though the latter two failed spectacularly). 

[Mind Trail]

You Not Me.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

The Answer Lies Within

[Jaffa]

Another vote for Misunderstood. 

[The Letter M]

Hmmm, I feel an album-by-album list coming on....hmm...nnnh......hhhhere....it.....comes...

The Ones Who Helped To Set The Sun
Metropolis Part 1
Space-Dye Vest
New Millennium
The Dance Of Eternity
Misunderstood
Vacant (It's good, but so different from anything else they had done to that point, yes, even different from "The Silent Man" and "Disappear" and "Wait For Sleep")
Octavarium (Yes, it is pretty out there)
The Dark Eternal Night
The Count Of Tuscany
Bridges In The Sky

Each of these represents what I feel is the weirdest and/or most experimental song on their respective albums.

-Marc.

[Tomislav95]

I forgot about The Dance of Eternity. Who else make song like this?

[Ruba]

Misunderstood isn't that experimental for me. The instrumental and the outro are, but not the other. It's a great song still.

You Not Me.

True. Also Burning My Soul. It is very different, because it is so simple.

[WildeSilas]

Objectively experimental or experimental for them?

Objectively: Misunderstood

For DT: PoW

[Lowdz]

SDV. Sounds like  a chrome Key song 

Experiment that failed, TDEN.

[TL]

I'll throw in Disappear too. Basically just the SDOIT album.

It's one of the things I really love about SDOIT. It's an album where it feels like they really just let the creativity flow.

[toro]

Space-Dye Vest
New Millenium
Misunderstood
Disappear

[Mosh]

Definitely Space Dye Vest

[Adami]

I would say SDV, but considering no one in DT but KM had anything to do with writing it, I won't.

I'd say Lines in the Sand, Anna Lee, Beyond This Life, and Through Her Eyes.



Not that these songs are completely unique, but they're not standard DT and are something DT hasn't exactly repeated much of since.

[champbassist]

The intro alone makes me go with BITS 

[GasparXR]

I Walk Beside You. It's a fucking DT U2 song

[The Letter M]

I Walk Beside You. It's a fucking DT U2 song

I think "To Live Forever" had that title over a decade before "I Walk Beside You". Besides, I don't think copying another band is really "weird" nor "experimental".

-Marc.

[GasparXR]

I Walk Beside You. It's a fucking DT U2 song

I think "To Live Forever" had that title over a decade before "I Walk Beside You". Besides, I don't think copying another band is really "weird" nor "experimental".

-Marc.

I never really thought of To Live Forever as sounding like U2 at all. And no, it's not experimental to copy a band, but the song doesn't sound like DT at all, which is why it sounds weird to be in DT's catalogue.

[The Letter M]

I Walk Beside You. It's a fucking DT U2 song

I think "To Live Forever" had that title over a decade before "I Walk Beside You". Besides, I don't think copying another band is really "weird" nor "experimental".

-Marc.

I never really thought of To Live Forever as sounding like U2 at all. And no, it's not experimental to copy a band, but the song doesn't sound like DT at all, which is why it sounds weird to be in DT's catalogue.

Well, TLF is as much U2 as IWBY, in that they're both pretty straight-forward rock songs. If DT hadn't done TLF, or any other similar straight-forward rock songs prior to Octavarium, then I would say "I Walk Beside You" is pretty weird, but because they had done songs like that before, it's not so weird to me.

-Marc.

[champbassist]

I never thought of IWBY to be anywhere near U2. More Coldplay-ish probably, but it's nowhere near a stylistic rip-off of either band.

[millahh]

-Metropolis (in context of what was going on in metal at the time)

-Space-Dye Vest.  yeah.

-New Millenium plays around with minimalism in a way they haven't done before or since

-Beyond this life...Even though i think that ground was somewhat covered by Zappa, it's still out there

-TDoE...I don't care for it, but I don;t know a whole lot of precedent for something like that.

-Misunderstood...the weirdness is unique for DT, though it definitely evokes THRAK-era King Crimson

-Disappear...I love it, but it sounds like an outtake from OK Computer.  Seriously, go listen to Exit Music (for a Film), then Disappear, and tell me you don't hear it.

-6DoiT is experimental, just in working with ideas and recurring themes on that time scale.

-Sacrificed Sons cops the Radiohead vibe again, but they sound more like themselves.  There's definitely some weirdness there.

-TDEN.  I don't like it, but I'll give it credit for being experimental.