Why Lost Not Forgotten live?

[rush-signals]

I was wondering why Dt is not playing Lost Not Forgotten live. Any ideas?

[The Letter M]

Perhaps they just simply chose not to play it?

They don't normally play every song on a new album for the tour...

...but when they do, it's a concept album.






-Marc.

[rush-signals]

I guess this is one song I really want to see live.

[The Letter M]

I guess this is one song I really want to see live.

It would be awesome on stage, but they are either saving it for another leg of this tour, or for the next tour. A song THAT awesome deserves to be played live.

-Marc.

[ResultsMayVary]

Perhaps they just simply chose not to play it?

+1

[slycordinator]

Conspiracy, I tell you.

[KevShmev]

The song is lost.  They haven't forgotten about it, and they are still searching for it.

[OsMosis2259]

next tour for sure along with "this is the life"

[Tis BOOLsheet]

JR said you could see it soon

[voncorn]

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[tweeg]

I imagine it's because they're still practicing the 'tickle section.' That must be super hard to play correctly every time.

[darkshade]

I imagine it's because they're still practicing the 'tickle section.' That must be super hard to play correctly every time.

They're making sure this will happen:

[SeRoX]

...but when they do, it's a concept album.

Well done, sir. 

[Ruba]

It sounds too much like Under a Glass Moon. It's boring, if they play two similar songs.

But Under a Glass Moon hasn't been in set this year, so why not.

Personally it's OK. I like it more than I hate.

[Blackfield]

Safety reasons.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Favorite song from ADTOE. Instantly fell in love on first listen (was stoned out of my mind at the time too haha). Was bummed that they didn't play it on the last US leg, but now I know I can look forward to it at some point on a future tour.

It is a pretty spectacular song, isn't it?

Some people complain about the similarity to Moon, and they're right that the structure is similar, but I still think the songs are different enough to enjoy without thinking of the other.

10/10 DT song; maybe minus .5 for the drums being too far back in the mix.

[bosk1]

It is a pretty spectacular song, isn't it? 

No.  It's a good song, but nowhere near "spectacular."  It is definitely in my bottom 3 on the album, just above Breaking All Illusions and Far From Heaven.  Given that there really isn't a bad song on the album, that's not a bad place to be at all.  But still, not a spectacular song at all.

Some people complain about the similarity to Moon, and they're right that the structure is similar, but I still think the songs are different enough to enjoy without thinking of the other.

No, I don't think anyone has "complained" about it being similar to Under A Glass Moon at all.  Some are definitely of the opinion that it is similar in structure and that it has some tonal similarities (I am of that opinion myself).  But I don't think many would consider that a problem to complain about. 

[theGonz]

Perhaps they just simply chose not to play it?

They don't normally play every song on a new album for the tour...

...but when they do, it's a concept album.

Not neccesarily...
They've played the entirety of WDADU (not including 2004), Images and Words, FII, TOT, 8V, and SC.
By playing the whole thing, I mean theyve played each song at least once throughout their tour.

[bosk1]

I do not think that is correct.  Other than 2004, I don't think they played all of WDADU on any single tour.  I&W was for an anniversary, so that was a special occasion.  I don't think they did FII either, but if they did, keep in mind that they had some "evening with" dates on that tour, which gives a lot more time in a set to do "new" songs.  TOT falls into that category also:  they were doing "evening with" sets on that tour (and still, there were a couple of sings they only did once or twice).  They didn't play all of Octavarium on a single tour. 

[Dream Team]

It is a pretty spectacular song, isn't it? 

No.  It's a good song, but nowhere near "spectacular."  It is definitely in my bottom 3 on the album, just above Breaking All Illusions and Far From Heaven.  Given that there really isn't a bad song on the album, that's not a bad place to be at all.  But still, not a spectacular song at all.

Some people complain about the similarity to Moon, and they're right that the structure is similar, but I still think the songs are different enough to enjoy without thinking of the other.

No, I don't think anyone has "complained" about it being similar to Under A Glass Moon at all.  Some are definitely of the opinion that it is similar in structure and that it has some tonal similarities (I am of that opinion myself).  But I don't think many would consider that a problem to complain about.

Just out of curiosity, does BAI rank low with you because of similarities to LTL? Because I think it is easily the best song on ADTOE.

[bosk1]

No.  I like LTL a lot.  I just do not like BAI because, despite some really terrific moments, it feels like there are lyrical and musical ideas that are underdeveloped, and there are lyrics I really do not like (which is a first for lyrics penned by Myung).  And don't get me wrong--like Lost Not Forgotten, I consider BAI a good song.  I just don't consider it "spectacular" or anything like that.

[SystematicThought]

Which part of the lyrics do you not like? I only ask because you are not the first person I've seen say that.

[YtseJamittaja]

I imagine it's because they're still practicing the 'tickle section.' That must be super hard to play correctly every time.

I think that too.

[wasteland]

Perhaps they just simply chose not to play it?

They don't normally play every song on a new album for the tour...

...but when they do, it's a concept album.






-Marc.

So are you implying that Train Of Though and Octavarium are concept albums? 

[Tis BOOLsheet]

It is a pretty spectacular song, isn't it? 

No.  It's a good song, but nowhere near "spectacular."  It is definitely in my bottom 3 on the album, just above Breaking All Illusions and Far From Heaven.  Given that there really isn't a bad song on the album, that's not a bad place to be at all.  But still, not a spectacular song at all.

Some people complain about the similarity to Moon, and they're right that the structure is similar, but I still think the songs are different enough to enjoy without thinking of the other.

No, I don't think anyone has "complained" about it being similar to Under A Glass Moon at all.  Some are definitely of the opinion that it is similar in structure and that it has some tonal similarities (I am of that opinion myself).  But I don't think many would consider that a problem to complain about.

Trust me, it's spectacular. I'll elaborate a bit later today, or tomorrow. Even if it were in the bottom 3 on the album (which it certainly is not; BMUBMD, TiTL, and BTS are bottom 3) that wouldn't mean all that much considering the best songs on this album are some of the best material DT has come out with in a decade.

And I know, personally, a couple people are unhappy with how "formulaic" the band's approach to writing this album was, so yes, there are people who are DT fans who have complained about the similarity in song structure.

[cyberdrummer]

They didn't play all of Octavarium on a single tour. 

31/10/2005.

[skydivingninja]

Octavarium IS a concept album! 

(Cyberdrummer, that was the fanclub "Live in Rome" DVD, was it not?)

As for LNF, I don't like the song, so I'd rather not see it live. 

[cyberdrummer]

Yeah that was the one. Great dvd.

[theseoafs]

Octavarium isn't a concept album. Also, when was SC played in its entirety?

EDIT: Oh, I get it. You mean they played the entire thing over the duration of the tour. What a fool I was.

[SeRoX]

Octavarium isn't a concept album. Also, when was SC played in its entirety?

They never played SC in its entirety. Repentance was played once with M. Åkerfeldt and Prophets Of War was played on their BC&SL promotion tour.

[Progmetty]

next tour for sure along with "this is the life"

That's what I thought was obvious. Keep some fresh new sounds for the 2nd U.S leg.

[Dublagent66]

No.  I like LTL a lot.  I just do not like BAI because, despite some really terrific moments, it feels like there are lyrical and musical ideas that are underdeveloped, and there are lyrics I really do not like (which is a first for lyrics penned by Myung).  And don't get me wrong--like Lost Not Forgotten, I consider BAI a good song.  I just don't consider it "spectacular" or anything like that.

Can you please clarify?  Seems somewhat contradictory to me.  For example, if I don't like a song, I wouldn't consider it a good song.

[bosk1]

I meant to say, "I just do not like BAI as much."  Again, it's a good song.  But it also falls flat, especially lyrically. 

[SystematicThought]

To which I ask again, why? You're not the first person to say that, and I've been curious as to why?

[WindMaster]

Octavarium IS a concept album!