Another Hand vs. The Killing Hand

Scorpion · February 28, 2012, 02:34:56 AM

Okay, I've recently been listening to the song "The Killing Hand" quite often (awesome song, btw!) and I'm kinda curious about your opinion concerning the intro.

So, what do you prefer? The original version (it's also played on WDADRU, I think) or the version that's mostly played live, the one where "Another Hand" replaces the intro? I'd have to go by the second option - I just love the "Another Hand" intro. Not that the regular one is bad, mind you, but it is somewhat - well, for lack of a better word, ordinary.

I especially recommend the version on the "World Tourbulence" bootleg, because of the instrumental section, but that doesn't have anything to do with the intro, I just wanted to say it...

Anyway, plz tell me what you think!

-Scorpion

hefdaddy42 · February 28, 2012, 03:59:04 AM

I love Another Hand. It's one of my favorite pieces of music in DT's catalogue.

BlobVanDam · February 28, 2012, 04:02:53 AM

The acoustic intro is nothing special, so I'll easily go with Another Hand.

snapple · February 28, 2012, 06:14:16 AM

Sipping his poison the raven sings
Yet another to add more bodies fallen
King from below
this one controls

There is a boot on YT where James absolutely slays this part. Well, the whole song. It's amazing.

wasteland · February 28, 2012, 06:26:02 AM

Quote from: snapple on February 28, 2012, 06:14:16 AM
Sipping his poison the raven sings
Yet another to add more bodies fallen
King from below
this one controls

There is a boot on YT where James absolutely slays this part. Well, the whole song. It's amazing.

Last line completely made of G5s. What an amazing moment...

snapple · February 28, 2012, 06:27:16 AM

I HAD to rip that from YT. Too bad the audio quality sucks (except for the vocals). Would be the PERFECT live version.

wasteland · February 28, 2012, 06:42:09 AM

Quote from: snapple on February 28, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
I HAD to rip that from YT. Too bad the audio quality sucks (except for the vocals). Would be the PERFECT live version.

No need to rip thing off YT, I will give you a link to the full DVD if you want

snapple · February 28, 2012, 06:59:05 AM

WANT

Scorpion · February 28, 2012, 07:30:13 AM

Quote from: snapple on February 28, 2012, 06:59:05 AM
WANT

I concur.

wasteland · February 28, 2012, 07:48:47 AM

You'll have to wait for it some time, as I'm downloading it right now and will then have to re-upload it to a place where you can get it.

As for the OP, I like Another Hand, but I find the WDADRU acoustic intro incredibly fascinating. So, I'm not going to vote. Now, another question: we will ever get to see The Killing Hand live? I damn hope so...

Ben_Jamin · February 28, 2012, 09:03:49 AM

I prefer the original intro, another hand will only happen if they play another day again.

wasteland · February 28, 2012, 09:23:17 AM

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on February 28, 2012, 09:03:49 AM
I prefer the original intro, another hand will only happen if they play another day again.

That's not entirely true, as Another Hand was used to link Surrounded and Burning My Soul to The Killing Hand in 2002, though its original purpose was to be the bridge between AD and TKH.

ResultsMayVary · February 28, 2012, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 28, 2012, 03:59:04 AM
I love Another Hand. It's one of my favorite pieces of music in DT's catalogue.

+1

Ħ · February 28, 2012, 10:52:41 AM

Both versions are okay. Not bad at all but not incredible (save for sections here and there). I guess I prefer the Another Hand because it builds up to that gnarly Queensryche guitar riff all the better.

theseoafs · February 28, 2012, 12:50:26 PM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 28, 2012, 04:02:53 AM
The acoustic intro is nothing special, so I'll easily go with Another Hand.

Lowdz · February 28, 2012, 12:58:32 PM

I like both. The original was fine and I loved what they did with it on LATM. Mostly just posting to keep track of the thread as I'd love a copy of that dvd!

Dublagent66 · February 28, 2012, 04:33:02 PM

My fav is the LATM version.

TAC · February 28, 2012, 06:13:29 PM

The Killing Hand is my #4 DT song!

Ryzee · February 28, 2012, 06:21:56 PM

The Killing Hand is one of my favorite DT songs too. The LATM version is the be all end all version of that song and that has Another Hand so Another Hand it is. James' vocals on that version are ridiculous!

LCArenas · February 28, 2012, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 28, 2012, 03:59:04 AM
I love Another Hand. It's one of my favorite pieces of music in DT's catalogue.

And just when I thought nobody cared about Another Hand. It's an amazing intro. Love it!

Fiery Winds · February 29, 2012, 12:14:41 AM

I really like the acoustic intro. However, the live version with soft vocals in the middle of the song and the guitar solo with the same melody as the acoustic intro is just amazing.

SeRoX · February 29, 2012, 06:23:44 AM

For me, this is the only song that suffers from existence of James LaBrie on WDADU. Though we have many live performance of it with Captain, it would have been great if we'd had studio version. It is exactly my favourite song, probably in my top 10.

Great lyrics, amazing vocal lines, epic song but I don't mind Another Hand much but nonetheless it's a great piece of music.

slycordinator · February 29, 2012, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: SeRoX on February 29, 2012, 06:23:44 AM
For me, this is the only song that suffers from existence of James LaBrie on WDADU.

There's a reason the other ones don't...

Ħ · February 29, 2012, 01:35:49 PM

Quote from: slycordinator on February 29, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: SeRoX on February 29, 2012, 06:23:44 AM
For me, this is the only song that suffers from existence of James LaBrie on WDADU.
There's a reason the other ones don't...

Because they're pretty much nonredeemable?

slycordinator · February 29, 2012, 08:07:27 PM

Quote from: Ħ on February 29, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: slycordinator on February 29, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: SeRoX on February 29, 2012, 06:23:44 AM
For me, this is the only song that suffers from existence of James LaBrie on WDADU.
There's a reason the other ones don't...
Because they're pretty much nonredeemable?

Hint: JLB wasn't on that album at all. I was teasing him for saying that the song suffers due to JLB's singing.

SeRoX · February 29, 2012, 08:12:55 PM

Quote from: slycordinator on February 29, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
Quote from: Ħ on February 29, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: slycordinator on February 29, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: SeRoX on February 29, 2012, 06:23:44 AM
For me, this is the only song that suffers from existence of James LaBrie on WDADU.
There's a reason the other ones don't...
Because they're pretty much nonredeemable?
Hint: JLB wasn't on that album at all. I was teasing him for saying that the song suffers due to JLB's singing.

I thought it was so obvious that I love the rest of album with Dominici's voice, because I only mentioned TKH.

slycordinator · February 29, 2012, 08:37:41 PM

Quote from: SeRoX on February 29, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
I thought it was so obvious that I love the rest of album with Dominici's voice, because I only mentioned TKH.

I know. I was teasing you "for saying that the song suffers due to JLB's singing."

Elite · March 01, 2012, 05:07:50 AM

Quote from: Ryzee on February 28, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
The Killing Hand is one of my favorite DT songs too. The LATM version is the be all end all version of that song and that has Another Hand so Another Hand it is. James' vocals on that version are ridiculous!

This is correct.

Even though the vocals weren't 'live' it's still my favourite song ever on a live album. Seriously good.

ZirconBlue · March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 PM

Quote from: Ryzee on February 28, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
The Killing Hand is one of my favorite DT songs too. The LATM version is the be all end all version of that song and that has Another Hand so Another Hand it is.

Really? Personally, I think the definitive version is the one from the "Hollow Years" single, recorded at Birch Hill in '96.

Scorpion · March 10, 2012, 02:22:20 PM

Quote from: ZirconBlue on March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: Ryzee on February 28, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
The Killing Hand is one of my favorite DT songs too. The LATM version is the be all end all version of that song and that has Another Hand so Another Hand it is.

Really? Personally, I think the definitive version is the one from the "Hollow Years" single, recorded at Birch Hill in '96.

Damn - where can I find that one? I've been searching, but no luck whatsoever...

snapple · March 10, 2012, 06:53:48 PM

This is the end all version. Sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep2vadeM9nY

ZirconBlue · March 13, 2012, 01:04:56 PM

Quote from: Scorpion on March 10, 2012, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: ZirconBlue on March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: Ryzee on February 28, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
The Killing Hand is one of my favorite DT songs too. The LATM version is the be all end all version of that song and that has Another Hand so Another Hand it is.

Really? Personally, I think the definitive version is the one from the "Hollow Years" single, recorded at Birch Hill in '96.

Damn - where can I find that one? I've been searching, but no luck whatsoever...

Well, amazon's got some used copies up, but they're pretty pricey $35+.

chaotic_ripper · March 14, 2012, 04:16:18 AM

If you want the Birch Hill version, just get the Ytsejam Record "official bootleg". Probably cheaper than trying to buy a used single. It's not from Birch Hill but it's a better recording of the same version.
https://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=23&idcategory=8

PetFish · March 17, 2012, 11:02:33 PM

Quote from: ZirconBlue on March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
Personally, I think the definitive version is the one from the "Hollow Years" single, recorded at Birch Hill in '96.

I agree.

The extended atmospheric section in the middle and JP's slide solo after "What I have learned..." put this version way over the top. Then there's DS's lead tone and his organ patch and tasteful playing during the break. And let's not forget The Fortune In Lies nugget at 5:44 (starting with "Sipping his poison..."), which they never do anymore. Just amazing the whole way through.

This version has everything and even though I hate ranking songs (really foolish to say this art is better than that art) if I did have to pick one DT song to listen to the rest of my life it would probably be this one.

djentlemen · March 18, 2012, 02:59:23 AM

i honestly prefer the original intro in the album track , it fits the song perfectly

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