Who Wrote Which Part of TTT

Started by snapple, February 24, 2012, 02:22:33 PM

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snapple

I think we all know MP wrote the intro rap

but who wrote the other parts?

FlyingBIZKIT

Dream Theater, I think..

wait...maybe Neal Morse  :justjen

snapple

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on February 24, 2012, 02:23:54 PM
Dream Theater, I think..

wait...maybe Neal Morse  :justjen

I thought they each wrote a section of lyric?

FlyingBIZKIT

I know, I'm just being stupid.


Not sure though.

SeRoX

Considering they wrote all lyrics before James joined them and knowing that James's first lyric is CIAW, Moore, Portnoy, Petrucci and Myung did write but AFAIK, we don't know who wrote which lines.

snapple

Quote from: SeRoX on February 24, 2012, 02:33:26 PM
Considering they wrote all lyrics before James joined them and knowing that James's first lyric is CIAW, Moore, Portnoy, Petrucci and Myung did write but AFAIK, we don't know who wrote which lines.

Well, figure it out!

;D

SystematicThought

There are no answers from voices above had to be a KevMo line

snapple

The pensive fear part sounds like JMX.

jcmistat

From karmakgb at songmeanings.net I think he has it right.

First verse Mike Portnoy.

Just let me catch my breath
I've heard the promises
I've seen the mistakes
I've had my fair share of tough breaks
I need a new voice, a new law, a new way
Take the time, reevaluate
It's time to pick up the pieces
Go back to square one
I think it's time for a change

Very staccato, repetitive, aggressive. Very Portnoy.

Second verse John Petrucci.

There is someting that I feel
To be something that is real
I feel the heat within my mind
And craft new changes with my eyes
Giving freely wandering promises
A place with decisions I'll fashion
I won't waste another breath

He tends to write these dreamy obscure lyrics. This fits the bill.

Third verse definitely Kevin Moore.

The unbroken spirit
Obscured and disquiet
Finds clearness this trial demands
And at the end of this day sighs an anxious relief
For the fortune lies still in his hands

If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
A man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real
Suppression that he feels must turn to hope

The best lyricist in the band (and one of my favorites of all time) he writes these beautiful little pieces full of emotion and cleverly worded. For an example from roughly the same time period, see "Only A Matter of Time."

Any doubt that this is John Myung?

I close my eyes
And feel the water rise around me
Drown the beat of time
Let my senses fall away
I can see much clearer now I'm blind

Mystical, water imagery. Just check "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" if you doubt it.

The chorus could have been written by any of them, my guess is Moore or Petrucci.

theseoafs


snapple

I could see your JMX and KM parts easily being flipped. They're both fantastic lyricists who, especially at that point in the band, could have written either part.

Sketchy

I always assumed the Drown The Beat Of Time bit was Moore, as I'm sure some of it gets reprised lyrically in Surrounded.

SeRoX

I didn't know it was cleared that who wrote the lyrics exactly.

tweeg

If I had to take a guess, I`d say Portnoy did the first part (somehow that's ridiculously obvious).  Myung probably did the `There is something that I feel`verse since it`s more prose/poem  than the other verses somehow. The "unbroken spirit" verse and "if there's a pensive fear" verse seem extremely 90s Petrucci to me; well crafted and nuanced with quite a few big words thrown in for good measure. And the final verse "I close my eyes" I'm pretty sure is Moore; he was/is big into movie samples used in songs and the "I can see much clearer now I'm blind" line is the English translation of the Italian after it.

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Quote from: jcmistat on February 24, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
The chorus could have been written by any of them, my guess is Moore or Petrucci.
They wrote the chorus together, according to the DT FAQ. Which line is whose, I don't know.

The final verse has to be Myung, if you compare the lyrics of Learning to Live or Lifting Shadows to anything JP or Kev wrote at the time, it's easy to notice that JM used much less rhymes and the "I close my eyes" section doesn't really have rhymes. It's harder to say which verse was written by Moore and which by JP.

ZKX-2099

Quote from: jcmistat on February 24, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
From karmakgb at songmeanings.net I think he has it right.

First verse Mike Portnoy.

Just let me catch my breath
I've heard the promises
I've seen the mistakes
I've had my fair share of tough breaks
I need a new voice, a new law, a new way
Take the time, reevaluate
It's time to pick up the pieces
Go back to square one
I think it's time for a change

Very staccato, repetitive, aggressive. Very Portnoy.

Second verse John Petrucci.

There is someting that I feel
To be something that is real
I feel the heat within my mind
And craft new changes with my eyes
Giving freely wandering promises
A place with decisions I'll fashion
I won't waste another breath

He tends to write these dreamy obscure lyrics. This fits the bill.

Third verse definitely Kevin Moore.

The unbroken spirit
Obscured and disquiet
Finds clearness this trial demands
And at the end of this day sighs an anxious relief
For the fortune lies still in his hands

If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
A man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real
Suppression that he feels must turn to hope

The best lyricist in the band (and one of my favorites of all time) he writes these beautiful little pieces full of emotion and cleverly worded. For an example from roughly the same time period, see "Only A Matter of Time."

Any doubt that this is John Myung?

I close my eyes
And feel the water rise around me
Drown the beat of time
Let my senses fall away
I can see much clearer now I'm blind

Mystical, water imagery. Just check "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" if you doubt it.

The chorus could have been written by any of them, my guess is Moore or Petrucci.

This.

skydivingninja

Quote from: snapple on February 24, 2012, 03:34:15 PM
I could see your JMX and KM parts easily being flipped. They're both fantastic lyricists who, especially at that point in the band, could have written either part.

I think anything with water imagery is a sure sign of JMX lyrics though  :lol.  You're right though in that they probably could have written either part.

Mosh

Quote from: jcmistat on February 24, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
From karmakgb at songmeanings.net I think he has it right.

First verse Mike Portnoy.

Just let me catch my breath
I've heard the promises
I've seen the mistakes
I've had my fair share of tough breaks
I need a new voice, a new law, a new way
Take the time, reevaluate
It's time to pick up the pieces
Go back to square one
I think it's time for a change

Very staccato, repetitive, aggressive. Very Portnoy.

Second verse John Petrucci.

There is someting that I feel
To be something that is real
I feel the heat within my mind
And craft new changes with my eyes
Giving freely wandering promises
A place with decisions I'll fashion
I won't waste another breath

He tends to write these dreamy obscure lyrics. This fits the bill.

Third verse definitely Kevin Moore.

The unbroken spirit
Obscured and disquiet
Finds clearness this trial demands
And at the end of this day sighs an anxious relief
For the fortune lies still in his hands

If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
A man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real
Suppression that he feels must turn to hope

The best lyricist in the band (and one of my favorites of all time) he writes these beautiful little pieces full of emotion and cleverly worded. For an example from roughly the same time period, see "Only A Matter of Time."

Any doubt that this is John Myung?

I close my eyes
And feel the water rise around me
Drown the beat of time
Let my senses fall away
I can see much clearer now I'm blind

Mystical, water imagery. Just check "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" if you doubt it.

The chorus could have been written by any of them, my guess is Moore or Petrucci.
Yea I always thought of it like that except I thought the line marked as Moore's was Myung's and vice-versa.

Iarwain

Mike wrote the first verse, JM the second, JP the third and Kevin the bridge. Then Mike and Kevin wrote the chorus together.

MP mentioned it in an interview he did a few years ago with a venezuelan fansite.

Mladen

The second verse does sound like JM to me, it's kinda related to bits of Learning to live. ''I won't waste another breath'' feels to me like ''I won't give up till I've got no more to give.''

The Letter M

Quote from: Iarwain on February 25, 2012, 03:59:58 PM
Mike wrote the first verse, JM the second, JP the third and Kevin the bridge. Then Mike and Kevin wrote the chorus together.

MP mentioned it in an interview he did a few years ago with a venezuelan fansite.

It makes sense that Moore wrote the bridge, as I always heard "I can see much clearer now I'm blind" as a reference to Surrounded's line "I once could see but now at last I'm blind".

Also, it makes sense that Mike co-wrote the chorus, as he references TTT in JLMB with the similar line "Just close your mind / You can find all you need with your eyes" (with TTT's line "Close your eyes / You can find all you need in your mind"). Heck, the title of JLMB if influenced by the opening line of TTT! Such angry lyrics, though...

-Marc.

Elite

Quote from: Iarwain on February 25, 2012, 03:59:58 PM
Mike wrote the first verse, JM the second, JP the third and Kevin the bridge. Then Mike and Kevin wrote the chorus together.

MP mentioned it in an interview he did a few years ago with a venezuelan fansite.

I think this is correct. It makes sense.
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