Could a DT song ever be used in a movie?

Started by Super Dude, December 16, 2011, 07:26:27 PM

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Super Dude

I dunno why I suddenly thought to make a thread about this. Yesterday I was writing part of my new idea for a novel while listening to Beneath the Surface, and I was thinking, "If I ever fulfill my dream of seeing a work of mine turned into a film, this song is going into the sentimental montage scene."

What about you guys? Any songs you'd imagine/want to see in a movie?
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VioletS16

I think they used a lot of stuff from SFAM in Dragonball Z: The History of Trunks. But I'm not into that stuff so I'm not 100% sure.

FlyingBIZKIT

I could def. see Beneath The Surface working.

Wolfman and The Dark Eternal Night? Maybe?

BlobVanDam


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black_biff_stadler

I've left a bar skank or two sticky after a good WOMP WOMP session.

antigoon

I feel like it would come off kitschy. Especially a ballad.

Super Dude

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orcus116

The music just isn't designed to fit into a movie. I can't think of a single scenario outside of maybe playing on a radio in the background somewhere where it wouldn't feel shoehorned in.

obscure


antigoon

Quote from: Super Dude on December 16, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: antigoon on December 16, 2011, 08:50:40 PM
I feel like it would come off kitschy. Especially a ballad.

Really? Explain.

Kinda what Orcus said. It's just all very in-your-face music. If anything, I think part of a heavier song might work in an action movie or something.

darkshade

The Dark Eternal Night; for the opening credits for an appropriate movie (probably thriller/horror/maybe comedy movie)

Nihil-Morari

Something like the intro of TCOT could work.
Mostly the instrumental intro's/interludes/outro's I think.

Phoenix87x

I think that the part in Metropolis at 5 minutes 30 seconds would be really cool to have for a car chase scene.

Every time I'm driving and the section comes on, suddenly I feel this urge to drive excessively fast and I always envision some epic car chase.


hefdaddy42

I think there are pieces of songs that would work extremely well, especially during action sequences or beginning/ending titles.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

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ThroughHerEyesDude6

I could see it now:

Bob and Derrick are being chased by the random organization on a semi busy highway. In their Mystery Machine, they are trailed by two black sedans and a black van.

Derrick: Okay, buddy I need you to do a favor for me. Remember that mixtape I told you never to put into the radio unless it was important?..well, I need it, now.

Bob: Dude, I don't think this is the best time to show me some new mu-

Derrick: Bob this isn't a joke! I need to focus and the only way to do that is to put in the mixtape. Now find it!

Bob: Fine! I'll look for it.

During the chases, the sedans start to pull up along the sides of the MM, and the van is gearing for an ass ram.

Bob: Is this it?

He is holding a mistape with the Dream Theater majesty logo on it.

Derrick: (asfter grabbing the mixtape) hold onto your drumsticks, bro. It's about to get 5/8 in this bitch (he pushes play)

At this point, the musical interlude from the song "Octavarium" starts to play and the MM puts the pedal to the metal. It screams out of the way as the sedans attempt to slam into the sides of the MM, and the van tries to ram it from behind, causing a three-way collision with the black vehicles.

The MM screams down the highway and is safe from the sedans showing a montage other sedans trying to thwart the MM, and continuously failing until the are no more cars left to chase the MM with. The boys are now safe.


Bob: What?!... How?!... Why?!...

Derrick: (insert adlibbed one-liner here)

Super Dude

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on December 17, 2011, 03:26:37 AM
I think there are pieces of songs that would work extremely well, especially during action sequences or beginning/ending titles.

Right, like Constant Motion until the vocals. And considering how close it sounds to Metallica, I think few non-DT fans would argue with that. (That wasn't a joke, I'm serious)
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ZKX-2099

Something like Constant Motion could work in a chase scene maybe.

Super Dude

Yeah, especially the keyboard solo would be great, if a teensy bit cheesy.
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m0hawk

Would love to see TCOT's ambient section fit a film.

rumborak

SDV. For the depressing montage where the main character has his key blowback of the movie, right before he picks himself up and goes towards the happy ending.

rumborak

Super Dude

Quote from: rumborak on December 17, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
SDV. For the depressing montage where the main character has his key blowback of the movie, right before he picks himself up and goes towards the happy ending.

rumborak

Y'know, if a movie had come out around the time of that album, I totally could've seen that happening. Nowadays a song like that would sound too early 90s and therefore too corny to be taken seriously, but back then it totally would've worked.
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orcus116

And anything DT has produced since wouldn't sound corny?

BlobVanDam

They have a ton of songs since that would sound a lot less dated and corny.

gentaishinigami

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Quote from: VioletS16 on December 16, 2011, 07:28:58 PM
I think they used a lot of stuff from SFAM in Dragonball Z: The History of Trunks. But I'm not into that stuff so I'm not 100% sure.

Yes, for the original english release of DBZ: The History of Trunks they had a soundtrack consisting of about 50% Metropolis Part 2. That was the only album songs featured on the movie.  It was truly epic, and the movie started with the clean open-string guitar intro from Home as the main characters son is frantically running home after receiving news that his father is dying.  Another great part was where they were at an amusement park fighting and they used several different sections of songs from Met. Pt2 and as we all know it tended to have an almost circus like vibe sometimes, and that worked beautifully there lol. 

I had never heard a thing about DT prior aside from my drummer once playing a kick-ass drum part and he said it was by a band called Dream Theater.  The name definitely stuck with me, but I never bothered to listen to them or anything and it fell to the back of my mind.  When I bought the movie being a huge DBZ fan I immediately saw the sticker on the cover saying "Featuring music by: Dream Theater" I immediately remembered the name and couldn't wait to put it in to see what was up with them.  I was floored from the first note and have been a huge fan ever since.

It saddens me that for whatever reason later pressings of the movie had the DT songs (and all the other bands songs) removed and an in-house one was made by their normal music guy (Bruce Falconer iirc).  I know they had to have picked up quite a few fans from that, and wish they had explored it further.  Obviously, I would never have likely been a fan if not for that.  I would have been a fan sooner I'm sure as it was love at first sight (erm, sound?) with DT, but it's hard to find DT if you don't already know about DT, though this is becoming less of a problem in the last couple of years.  Anyway, whoever made the decision to pull it from later releases sucks (though it was probably just a limited-time license)!   :'( 

If you haven't ever seen it before, and even if you don't like Japanese anime, go check out some of it just to see how awesome DT went to it!  It wasn't released theatrically to my knowledge which is unfortunate, but it definitely had a wide release at the height of DBZ-mania we had going around 2000.  I'll try to dig some up on youtube and post the links in the meantime.

Edit:  Here ya go.  DT shows up at 0:26, 2:01, 6:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=cK4GKjF1YoE

Annd because I talked about it here is the carnival fight scene (starts @6:35 in case link doesn't take you there):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BR2RGSyfbK4#t=391s


Super Dude

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 18, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
They have a ton of songs since that would sound a lot less dated and corny.

This. Like sure, putting any kinda metal/prog song into a movie now would be slightly on the corny side of things, but SDV, as awesome as it is, still sounds like it belongs in the same movie soundtrack as What is Love? by Haddaway.
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gmillerdrake

I always thought it'd be cool for DT to write the soundtrack specifically for a movie....I guess another concept album. I think that's be pretty cool.

Lotion

I think there's lots of keyboardsparts that would fit, especially the isolated track for the ending of TCOT.

gentaishinigami

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Quote from: gmillerdrake on December 18, 2011, 06:27:10 AM
I always thought it'd be cool for DT to write the soundtrack specifically for a movie....I guess another concept album. I think that's be pretty cool.

I've been wishing that would happen for years now.  I feel like it may be getting a bit closer to reality though, as I've seen at least one interview where someone asked Rudess if he would ever score a movie, and iirc (I probably dont xD) he said he'd love to if he had the free time and the offer to.  I think he would be particularly well suited for doing such a thing both because of his style, which to me at times is very cinematic and grand, and of course because his instrument lends itself to that kind of work.

Using existing songs would be cool as well, but that has already happened essentially with the movie I posted earlier, so I'd like to see them write music just for the occasion.  Rudess doing the score to the movie with the full band doing the insert songs and op/ed songs would be ideal however unlikely it may be.  I also think Rudess would do well at making video game music (*cough* 6deg overture), but I may be alone on that one.  ;D  Oh, and I could die happy if I ever got to hear Rudess cover some of the TFTM songs by Vince DiCola (or Legacy/Training Montage!)  Just sounds like something Rudess would have fun playing, and I want to hear his rendition of them so bad.  :'(

lithium112

There was a video about sky diving that I saw on Youtube about a year ago where the intro was set to the beginning of ACOS. The clean intro as they're ascending and showing footage of the surrounding landscapes, and then the guy jumps right as it kicks into the distorted riff. It worked really well, so I agree with hef regarding using DT music for an action sequence.

gentaishinigami

Quote from: lithium112 on December 18, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
There was a video about sky diving that I saw on Youtube about a year ago where the intro was set to the beginning of ACOS. The clean intro as they're ascending and showing footage of the surrounding landscapes, and then the guy jumps right as it kicks into the distorted riff. It worked really well, so I agree with hef regarding using DT music for an action sequence.

That's the 2002 Winter Olympics you're thinking of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nua1NrR9z-4