Mike Portnoy on That Metal Show

[TheGreatPretender]

Rumors =/= news isn't really a good argument.
I mean, yes, it's true. But still. Like I said it's a matter of spoilers.
"There's a rumor that such and such character will die in the next sequel, coming from the lips of someone heavily connected with the movie industry," still makes that rumor pretty reliable. And when you find out that it's actually true, you go, "Aww, hell! I knew it was gonna happen!"

[ResultsMayVary]

Rumors =/= news isn't really a good argument.
I mean, yes, it's true. But still. Like I said it's a matter of spoilers.
"There's a rumor that such and such character will die in the next sequel, coming from the lips of someone heavily connected with the movie industry," still makes that rumor pretty reliable. And when you find out that it's actually true, you go, "Aww, hell! I knew it was gonna happen!"

But then its credible to argue that when people get upset at blabbermouth when they do the same that Trunk did, but no blame on Trunk. Interesting.

[blackngold29]

Can't really comment on the show until I see it.


As for other discussion, I also did not like the Trunk - Mangini leak. I think some people are confusing things too. Pretty sure he said that Mangini was the guy, then tried to back off later saying he thought it was common knowledge (which it wasn't and someone in his position should have known; no clue where he would've gotten the info). Wish twitter would add a damn search feature for older tweets.

It was Blabbermouth used the term 'strongly rumored' in reference to Minnemann, which they -- to my knowledge -- completely fabricated.

Trunk later deleted the tweet within a few hours of posting it, but he did backpedal on the whole deal.

So that would add to it. If he claimed to be in the right by posting it, thinking it was public knowledge, he would have no reason to delete it.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

it was a "speculative post" that he wrote, not based on "insider knowledge."

he "didnt leak anything."

end of story.

[ResultsMayVary]

it was a "speculative post" that he wrote, not based on "insider knowledge."

he "didnt leak anything."

end of story.

No matter how many times you repeat your argument, it doesn't make it true, broski.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

it was a "speculative post" that he wrote, not based on "insider knowledge."

he "didnt leak anything."

end of story.

No matter how many times you repeat your argument, it doesn't make it true, broski.

it wasnt mine initially. it was a mods 

[TheGreatPretender]

But then its credible to argue that when people get upset at blabbermouth when they do the same that Trunk did, but no blame on Trunk. Interesting.

Do the same like what?
I mean I use the movie analogy because I can't really think of another case in the music industry where something like this has happened. At least not with any of the bands I listen to. Where they purposely withheld the information in order to make a certain documentary feel more suspenseful.
How often does something like that happen in the music industry? The only other type of "Spoiler" I could think of would be to spoil the actual songs off the new album, but I'm pretty sure Blabbermouth wouldn't be allowed to do that.

But yeah, if it was Blabbermouth who originally said, "Rumors tell us that Mike Mangini is the new drummer," right before the documentary is released, (and I wasn't following, so I wouldn't know if they did), then yeah, that would be a perfect reason to be just as pissed at Blabbermouth.

[blackngold29]

That's not speculating anything:



https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=155989

[ResultsMayVary]

But yeah, if it was Blabbermouth who originally said, "Rumors tell us that Mike Mangini is the new drummer," right before the documentary is released, (and I wasn't following, so I wouldn't know if they did), then yeah, that would be a perfect reason to be just as pissed at Blabbermouth.

This is my point. Blabbermouth did report the Trunk tweet about MM, but they didn't create any bs regarding MM and the audition process. Marco on the other hand, they were responsible for that. lol.

[ResultsMayVary]

That's not speculating anything:



https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=155989

I never thought I'd say this, but blabbermouth is useful for once.

[lithium112]

So.. not to interject on all the drama going down but, does anyone know where we can see the interview online? There's a "Sneak Peek" up on VH1 - will this turn into the full episode at some point?

[Tis BOOLsheet]

lol i really hope that anyone who actually got worked up about ET posting that isnt invested in any other area of the entertainment industry, because sheet like that happens ALL THE TIME with the MOST prominent players. Hell, ESPN, CHARGES MONEY TO THEIR SUBSCRIBERS to read about rumors.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

So.. not to interject on all the drama going down but, does anyone know where we can see the interview online? There's a "Sneak Peek" up on VH1 - will this turn into the full episode at some point?

its going to reair a bunch of a times on vh1 classic if you get that channel.

[lithium112]

So.. not to interject on all the drama going down but, does anyone know where we can see the interview online? There's a "Sneak Peek" up on VH1 - will this turn into the full episode at some point?

its going to reair a bunch of a times on vh1 classic if you get that channel.

I don't unfortunately. I guess I'll just wait for it to be up on Youtube or something.

[TheGreatPretender]

This is my point. Blabbermouth did report the Trunk tweet about MM, but they didn't create any bs regarding MM and the audition process. Marco on the other hand, they were responsible for that. lol.

Well, then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed about that too. I mean, especially because in the documentary, it was PRETTY MUCH between MM and Marco. Peter Wildoer made an impression too, but that still left Marco in the top 3.

[blackngold29]

lol i really hope that anyone who actually got worked up about ET posting that isnt invested in any other area of the entertainment industry, because sheet like that happens ALL THE TIME with the MOST prominent players. Hell, ESPN, CHARGES MONEY TO THEIR SUBSCRIBERS to read about rumors.

The difference being that most announcements don't have months of build up, constantly kept under close watch. People know most of what will be announced at a sports press conference before they get there, that's common. ESPN rumors are like blabbermouth's garbage; it's pointless stuff that doesn't matter two days from now.

This is one of the biggest metal stories of the year and a 'big name' in the industry doesn't know that they are keeping it a surprise? I was shocked that they actually kept it under wraps as much as they did -- he was literally the only person that reported it with some basis.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

lol i really hope that anyone who actually got worked up about ET posting that isnt invested in any other area of the entertainment industry, because sheet like that happens ALL THE TIME with the MOST prominent players. Hell, ESPN, CHARGES MONEY TO THEIR SUBSCRIBERS to read about rumors.

The difference being that most announcements don't have months of build up, constantly kept under close watch. People know most of what will be announced at a sports press conference before they get there, that's common. ESPN rumors are like blabbermouth's garbage; it's pointless stuff that doesn't matter two days from now.

This is one of the biggest metal stories of the year and a 'big name' in the industry doesn't know that they are keeping it a surprise? I was shocked that they actually kept it under wraps as much as they did -- he was literally the only person that reported it with some basis.

the time of build up is meaningless, if its the principle of "leaking" information.

[blackngold29]

So if he didn't feel it was 'leaked' or that he should not have posted it, then why did he delete the tweet?

[Tis BOOLsheet]

So if he didn't feel it was 'leaked' or that he should not have posted it, then why did he delete the tweet?

no clue why he deleted the tweet. regardless, lol @ people being mad about it and saying what a jerk he was over something so silly.

[SystematicThought]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

[blackngold29]

So if he didn't feel it was 'leaked' or that he should not have posted it, then why did he delete the tweet?

no clue why he deleted the tweet. regardless, lol @ people being mad about it and saying what a jerk he was over something so silly.

I guess we don't see it as the same level then.

For me, arguably the biggest announcement of the band's career =/= Silly

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

So if he didn't feel it was 'leaked' or that he should not have posted it, then why did he delete the tweet?

no clue why he deleted the tweet. regardless, lol @ people being mad about it and saying what a jerk he was over something so silly.

I guess we don't see it as the same level then.

For me, arguably the biggest announcement of the band's career =/= Silly

thats actually not what i said.

[ResultsMayVary]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

No one made such a comment that ET and MP were out to do anything together. If there's anyone insinuating anything here, it's obviously you, my friend. Especially that last sentence. lol.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

No one made such a comment that ET and MP were out to do anything together. If there's anyone insinuating anything here, it's obviously you, my friend. Especially that last sentence. lol.

nice try, but i did read that thread and it was insinuated NUMEROUS times. 

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What's this iPod thing he talked about? (I didn't watch the interview)

[blackngold29]

Right, somebody did say that way back when the tweet was made and it's complete bullshit.

What was the thing that's "silly" then?

[ResultsMayVary]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

No one made such a comment that ET and MP were out to do anything together. If there's anyone insinuating anything here, it's obviously you, my friend. Especially that last sentence. lol.

nice try, but i did read that thread and it was insinuated NUMEROUS times. 

Like I said, you are the one doing that here. Multiple times in this thread you posted statements accusing everyone else here of something after presenting your side of the argument and those statements were bullshit. No one here was insinuating anything about ET and MP conspiring to do anything together. Stop posting bullshit. Real facts and quoting others' sentences/posts tend to assist your argument when debating with fellow forumers.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I don't see how it's silly in any way. It's something that he had no right posting.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

No one made such a comment that ET and MP were out to do anything together. If there's anyone insinuating anything here, it's obviously you, my friend. Especially that last sentence. lol.

nice try, but i did read that thread and it was insinuated NUMEROUS times. 

Like I said, you are the one doing that here. Multiple times in this thread you posted statements accusing everyone else here of something after presenting your side of the argument and those statements were bullshit. No one here was insinuating anything about ET and MP conspiring to do anything together. Stop posting bullshit. Real facts and sentences tend to assist your argument when debating with fellow forumers.

lol...im not insinuating anything or accusing anyone of anything. im stating observations from previous threads. end of story. sorry if you dont like the fact that they exist or you didnt read them. i didnt accuse anyone on this thread of anything. get over it.

[ResultsMayVary]

lol...im not insinuating anything or accusing anyone of anything. im stating observations from previous threads. end of story. sorry if you dont like the fact that they exist or you didnt read them. i didnt accuse anyone on this thread of anything. get over it.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

Please find a statement of anyone in this thread where they said this.

You were saying?

[Tis BOOLsheet]

lol...im not insinuating anything or accusing anyone of anything. im stating observations from previous threads. end of story. sorry if you dont like the fact that they exist or you didnt read them. i didnt accuse anyone on this thread of anything. get over it.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

Please find a statement of anyone in this thread where they said this.

You were saying?

ehh, im not going to go call out anyone on this forum by name. if youre so interested in confirming that then go get the thread. you can read.

[ResultsMayVary]

lol...im not insinuating anything or accusing anyone of anything. im stating observations from previous threads. end of story. sorry if you dont like the fact that they exist or you didnt read them. i didnt accuse anyone on this thread of anything. get over it.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

Please find a statement of anyone in this thread where they said this.

You were saying?

ehh, im not going to go call out anyone on this forum by name. if youre so interested in confirming that then go get the thread. you can read.

And there you accused people, in general, on this forum of saying ET and MP were conspiring to ruin DTs announcement when no one made a statement like that, let alone one that could be consider ballpark-related. Cut the bullshit.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

lol...im not insinuating anything or accusing anyone of anything. im stating observations from previous threads. end of story. sorry if you dont like the fact that they exist or you didnt read them. i didnt accuse anyone on this thread of anything. get over it.

uh actually he had EVERY right posting it because he wasnt entrusted with any special information. hes involved in media and DJing for this music. he reports on shit like this. too bad if you dont like that. actually, what was worse than anything he did was people insinuating (on this forum) that ET and MP were somehow conspiring together to ruin DTs announcement.

Please find a statement of anyone in this thread where they said this.

You were saying?

ehh, im not going to go call out anyone on this forum by name. if youre so interested in confirming that then go get the thread. you can read.

And there you accused people, in general, on this forum of saying ET and MP were conspiring to ruin DTs announcement when no one made a statement like that, let alone one that could be consider ballpark-related. Cut the bullshit.

i said insinuating. cut the bullshit.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

in·sin·u·at·ing
   [in-sin-yoo-ey-ting] Show IPA
adjective
1.
tending to instill doubts, distrust, etc


hope this helps.

[lithium112]

I feel like you guys should probably  or there may be one or more banhammers incoming