Mike Portnoy on That Metal Show

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

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It's not a matter of being a fanboy, rather that Eddie is a VERY well known friend of MP and Eddie has never mentioned DT since MP left or that the new CD is good when in the past he has praised everything DT has put out

And than he leaks the drummer's name a month before the band does. That is extremely "low" of him

its not a "leak." the fact that it turned out to be true doesnt change the fact that it was a rumor that he was posting. his first obligation is to circulate news, not to appease fanboys. youre honestly the first person ive become aware of who was bothered enough by such a minor thing to call it "low." a LOT of fans were super pissed at the band/label (whoever the hell it was) for dragging it out like that. no band (or label) has ever been that ridiculous. when you go to such great lengths to keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long, its bound to come out in one way or another.

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It's not a matter of being a fanboy, rather that Eddie is a VERY well known friend of MP and Eddie has never mentioned DT since MP left or that the new CD is good when in the past he has praised everything DT has put out

And than he leaks the drummer's name a month before the band does. That is extremely "low" of him

its not a "leak." the fact that it turned out to be true doesnt change the fact that it was a rumor that he was posting. his first obligation is to circulate news, not to appease fanboys. youre honestly the first person ive become aware of who was bothered enough by such a minor thing to call it "low." a LOT of fans were super pissed at the band/label (whoever the hell it was) for dragging it out like that. no band (or label) has ever been that ridiculous. when you go to such great lengths to keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long, its bound to come out in one way or another.

Posting rumors isn't news. That's when we get into blabbermouth territory.

[Jamesman42]

It's not a matter of being a fanboy, rather that Eddie is a VERY well known friend of MP and Eddie has never mentioned DT since MP left or that the new CD is good when in the past he has praised everything DT has put out

And than he leaks the drummer's name a month before the band does. That is extremely "low" of him

its not a "leak." the fact that it turned out to be true doesnt change the fact that it was a rumor that he was posting. his first obligation is to circulate news, not to appease fanboys. youre honestly the first person ive become aware of who was bothered enough by such a minor thing to call it "low." a LOT of fans were super pissed at the band/label (whoever the hell it was) for dragging it out like that. no band (or label) has ever been that ridiculous. when you go to such great lengths to keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long, its bound to come out in one way or another.

uh, many people didn't like that Trunk did that. And especially right before DT was going to give us the videos.

[SystematicThought]

There was an entire thread dedicated to Eddie leaking it and a lot of people were mad that he did it or put off by it. That thread happened before you were even registered on this forum, so maybe that's why you don't remember anyone getting mad at it. I don't think DT had any intention of keeping it away from the fans. And I don't think you get it, MP's friendship with Eddie makes the whole thing suspicious. And because it did turn out to be true and the fact that Eddie is an MP fan more than anything, he did leak it. At least in my eyes and probably a few others

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

There was an entire thread dedicated to Eddie leaking it and a lot of people were mad that he did it or put off by it. That thread happened before you were even registered on this forum, so maybe that's why you don't remember anyone getting mad at it. I don't think DT had any intention of keeping it away from the fans. And I don't think you get it, MP's friendship with Eddie makes the whole thing suspicious. And because it did turn out to be true and the fact that Eddie is an MP fan more than anything, he did leak it. At least in my eyes and probably a few others

i was looking at this forum (and others) way before i was registered. not to mention aware of a lot of other fans opinions on various places on the internet. lol @ you bringing up his friendship with MP as though it had any relation to that. what exactly do you think it had to do with it? do you think he purposely wanted to harm DT by saying that? oh, and i, along with many others, knew it was mangini before they released it. you dont keep things like that a huge secret for that long. 

[SystematicThought]

How did you know for a fact that is was Mangini before it was announced? How did you know for a fact that it was Mangini?

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How did you know for a fact that is was Mangini before it was announced? How did you know for a fact that it was Mangini?

[TheGreatPretender]

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

I don't think that's the point though. The point is that they wanted to build suspense with that documentary. They auditioned a bunch of drummers and you didn't know who they were gonna end up with.
I never saw the rumor, and it made that documentary so much more enjoyable for me. And I imagine for the people who accidentally caught wind of the rumor without wanting to, they felt like someone spoiled a good movie for them. At least I know that's how I would've felt. Luckily I don't follow this Eddie Trunk guy.

[SystematicThought]

Or you could just answer my question since you seem to be very confidant that you knew it was Mangini long before anyone else did

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

You can be irritated about them holding off on the announcement all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But they did that for a reason and that was to provide the fans with the auditions videos so that they could share the experience with the fans. It was a great strategy and an obvious success since people were able to watch as DT jammed with the other drummers and eventually chose MM. No offense, but what rock were you under up until the release of ADTOE? There was at least an equal amount of promotion to BC&SL, especially with MM being the new drummer and all. That maybe your opinion on Eddie Trunk posting about MM, but I assure you a very large amount of people here and elsewhere disagree with you. Especially with SystematicThought referring to the thread that was created before you registered here. You missed a hell of a lot of criticism and anger towards Eddie Trunk there. I never said (or has anyone else here) that it affected the band in any way. However, a lot of people here at upset that Eddie Trunk leaked the new drummer's identity considering his relation with MP and how he is a fan of everything MP produces (and I mean everything. lol.). It was very low of him to be posting the rumor (since it was a rumor at the time). Rumors aren't news and I'm sure MP would agree with that looking back of the latest blabbermouth bs that involved him.

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whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

I don't think that's the point though. The point is that they wanted to build suspense with that documentary. They auditioned a bunch of drummers and you didn't know who they were gonna end up with.
I never saw the rumor, and it made that documentary so much more enjoyable for me. And I imagine for the people who accidentally caught wind of the rumor without wanting to, they felt like someone spoiled a good movie for them. At least I know that's how I would've felt. Luckily I don't follow this Eddie Trunk guy.

lol..anyone who was following forums or blabbermouth (and i bet a lot of you were) could have immediately crossed off some names. its not like he ruined some huge mystery to a lot of people. by the way, didnt blabbermouth come out with something saying that marco minnemann said he was NOT in the band? did you get mad at marco for that?

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whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

I don't think that's the point though. The point is that they wanted to build suspense with that documentary. They auditioned a bunch of drummers and you didn't know who they were gonna end up with.
I never saw the rumor, and it made that documentary so much more enjoyable for me. And I imagine for the people who accidentally caught wind of the rumor without wanting to, they felt like someone spoiled a good movie for them. At least I know that's how I would've felt. Luckily I don't follow this Eddie Trunk guy.

lol..anyone who was following forums or blabbermouth (and i bet a lot of you were) could have immediately crossed off some names. its not like he ruined some huge mystery to a lot of people. by the way, didnt blabbermouth come out with something saying that marco minnemann said he was NOT in the band? did you get mad at marco for that?

Seeing as Marco actually take part in the auditions, he has every right to talk about it. I don't remember Eddie Trunk being present at said auditions.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

I don't think that's the point though. The point is that they wanted to build suspense with that documentary. They auditioned a bunch of drummers and you didn't know who they were gonna end up with.
I never saw the rumor, and it made that documentary so much more enjoyable for me. And I imagine for the people who accidentally caught wind of the rumor without wanting to, they felt like someone spoiled a good movie for them. At least I know that's how I would've felt. Luckily I don't follow this Eddie Trunk guy.

lol..anyone who was following forums or blabbermouth (and i bet a lot of you were) could have immediately crossed off some names. its not like he ruined some huge mystery to a lot of people. by the way, didnt blabbermouth come out with something saying that marco minnemann said he was NOT in the band? did you get mad at marco for that?

Seeing as Marco actually take part in the auditions, he has every right to talk about it. I don't remember Eddie Trunk being present at said auditions.

lol so are you mad about the information being leaked or just some other principle?

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whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

I don't think that's the point though. The point is that they wanted to build suspense with that documentary. They auditioned a bunch of drummers and you didn't know who they were gonna end up with.
I never saw the rumor, and it made that documentary so much more enjoyable for me. And I imagine for the people who accidentally caught wind of the rumor without wanting to, they felt like someone spoiled a good movie for them. At least I know that's how I would've felt. Luckily I don't follow this Eddie Trunk guy.

lol..anyone who was following forums or blabbermouth (and i bet a lot of you were) could have immediately crossed off some names. its not like he ruined some huge mystery to a lot of people. by the way, didnt blabbermouth come out with something saying that marco minnemann said he was NOT in the band? did you get mad at marco for that?

Seeing as Marco actually take part in the auditions, he has every right to talk about it. I don't remember Eddie Trunk being present at said auditions.

lol so are you mad about the information being leaked or just some other principle?

As I recall, Eddie Trunk leaked a specific piece of information, while Marco said "it's not me."

[TheGreatPretender]

lol..anyone who was following forums or blabbermouth (and i bet a lot of you were) could have immediately crossed off some names. its not like he ruined some huge mystery to a lot of people. by the way, didnt blabbermouth come out with something saying that marco minnemann said he was NOT in the band? did you get mad at marco for that?

Well, I was following neither. So yeah, absolutely nothing was spoiled for me. And like I said, that made my experience of that whole documentary that much more enjoyable.

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ANYWAYS what's this iPod thing about?

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I still would like to know the answer to this...

[Madman Shepherd]

Also interesting that now said he wanted a one-year split.  JR said a five-year split in the documentary.  I wonder why the timeframes keep changing.  A one-year split would've been fine with me.  Just weird how the timeframe keeps changing.

Seeing as Portnoy has said things here and there that ended up not being true, i'll give JR the benefit of the doubt. Especially when several other people are saying the same thing as JR.

I am pretty sure they're both right. I think the original suggestion was 5 years, but then it was "bargained" down to 1 year or so, but the band still didn't want to take a break, so then MP decided to leave. At least, that's what I gather from the various interviews. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ACTUALLY, I think the original suggestion was an "indefinite" hiatus.  He then threw out five years and eventually asked them to at least go on a one year hiatus and eventually do some tours but not full fledged band activity. 

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

You can be irritated about them holding off on the announcement all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But they did that for a reason and that was to provide the fans with the auditions videos so that they could share the experience with the fans. It was a great strategy and an obvious success since people were able to watch as DT jammed with the other drummers and eventually chose MM. No offense, but what rock were you under up until the release of ADTOE? There was at least an equal amount of promotion to BC&SL, especially with MM being the new drummer and all. That maybe your opinion on Eddie Trunk posting about MM, but I assure you a very large amount of people here and elsewhere disagree with you. Especially with SystematicThought referring to the thread that was created before you registered here. You missed a hell of a lot of criticism and anger towards Eddie Trunk there. I never said (or has anyone else here) that it affected the band in any way. However, a lot of people here at upset that Eddie Trunk leaked the new drummer's identity considering his relation with MP and how he is a fan of everything MP produces (and I mean everything. lol.). It was very low of him to be posting the rumor (since it was a rumor at the time). Rumors aren't news and I'm sure MP would agree with that looking back of the latest blabbermouth bs that involved him.

the documentary was a great idea and i really enjoyed it. im just saying it was retarded how that situation was handled by the label or whoever it was. anyone who was mad at eddie trunk over something like that needed (or needs) to get over it lol. if he was trusted with this information from the band and THEN leaked it i could see the point. but given that the guy COVERS NEWS IN HEAVY MUSIC he has every right, and i would go so far as to say obligation to post news and (credible/reasonable) rumors. like i said, i dont agree with the guy all the time, but i appreciate what hes been trying to do for a genre of music thats been written off as dead. he did nothing wrong. period.

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Please...Tis BOOLsheet...never post Oprah again.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

ANYWAYS what's this iPod thing about?

MP said on the show that one of the turning points for him was when they were chilling with these dudes (another band i think) and someone in the band, whose name went unmentioned, showed up with earphones in. whoever this DT member was did not take them out and proceeded to sit there listening to music, acting sort of aloof.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Please...Tis BOOLsheet...never post Oprah again.

but you have to admit, it was a good GIF.

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

You can be irritated about them holding off on the announcement all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But they did that for a reason and that was to provide the fans with the auditions videos so that they could share the experience with the fans. It was a great strategy and an obvious success since people were able to watch as DT jammed with the other drummers and eventually chose MM. No offense, but what rock were you under up until the release of ADTOE? There was at least an equal amount of promotion to BC&SL, especially with MM being the new drummer and all. That maybe your opinion on Eddie Trunk posting about MM, but I assure you a very large amount of people here and elsewhere disagree with you. Especially with SystematicThought referring to the thread that was created before you registered here. You missed a hell of a lot of criticism and anger towards Eddie Trunk there. I never said (or has anyone else here) that it affected the band in any way. However, a lot of people here at upset that Eddie Trunk leaked the new drummer's identity considering his relation with MP and how he is a fan of everything MP produces (and I mean everything. lol.). It was very low of him to be posting the rumor (since it was a rumor at the time). Rumors aren't news and I'm sure MP would agree with that looking back of the latest blabbermouth bs that involved him.

the documentary was a great idea and i really enjoyed it. im just saying it was retarded how that situation was handled by the label or whoever it was. anyone who was mad at eddie trunk over something like that needed (or needs) to get over it lol. if he was trusted with this information from the band and THEN leaked it i could see the point. but given that the guy COVERS NEWS IN HEAVY MUSIC he has every right, and i would go so far as to say obligation to post news and (credible/reasonable) rumors. like i said, i dont agree with the guy all the time, but i appreciate what hes been trying to do for a genre of music thats been written off as dead. he did nothing wrong. period.

I would very much like to see where your getting this "label or whoever" that handled this situation "retarded." You seem to be doing a lot of 'or this or that' blah. And once again, posting rumors is not posting news. Blabbermouth is quite famous for doing this and we always see basically everyone in an uproar over what they post. Especially since blabbermouth tried to pull up bs on MP and then we have everyone pissed at blabbermouth. It's the same situation, but with one person instead of a crappy news site. Rumors =/= news. And at the time, how can you be so sure that it was credible? The label and the band knew for sure, but how did you know it was credible then? Again for the record, rumors =/= news. Blabbermouth is always criticized for posting rumors, regaredless of whether or not they're correct, and they always get flak over it. This is the exact same situation. Moral of the story, don't post rumors.

[SystematicThought]

My main though is that his friendship with MP could have played a role in him posting the rumor. It is very clear that Eddie isn't a DT fan but rather an MP fan. That's why the whole thing is aggravating, the band was close to announcing Mangini and than Eddie posts a rumor.

And I know you find that stance to be laughable, but I could care less.

And I took that GIF as a personal attack, or at least posted in a mocking way

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

You can be irritated about them holding off on the announcement all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But they did that for a reason and that was to provide the fans with the auditions videos so that they could share the experience with the fans. It was a great strategy and an obvious success since people were able to watch as DT jammed with the other drummers and eventually chose MM. No offense, but what rock were you under up until the release of ADTOE? There was at least an equal amount of promotion to BC&SL, especially with MM being the new drummer and all. That maybe your opinion on Eddie Trunk posting about MM, but I assure you a very large amount of people here and elsewhere disagree with you. Especially with SystematicThought referring to the thread that was created before you registered here. You missed a hell of a lot of criticism and anger towards Eddie Trunk there. I never said (or has anyone else here) that it affected the band in any way. However, a lot of people here at upset that Eddie Trunk leaked the new drummer's identity considering his relation with MP and how he is a fan of everything MP produces (and I mean everything. lol.). It was very low of him to be posting the rumor (since it was a rumor at the time). Rumors aren't news and I'm sure MP would agree with that looking back of the latest blabbermouth bs that involved him.

the documentary was a great idea and i really enjoyed it. im just saying it was retarded how that situation was handled by the label or whoever it was. anyone who was mad at eddie trunk over something like that needed (or needs) to get over it lol. if he was trusted with this information from the band and THEN leaked it i could see the point. but given that the guy COVERS NEWS IN HEAVY MUSIC he has every right, and i would go so far as to say obligation to post news and (credible/reasonable) rumors. like i said, i dont agree with the guy all the time, but i appreciate what hes been trying to do for a genre of music thats been written off as dead. he did nothing wrong. period.

I would very much like to see where your getting this "label or whoever" that handled this situation "retarded." You seem to be doing a lot of 'or this or that' blah. And once again, posting rumors is not posting news. Blabbermouth is quite famous for doing this and we always see basically everyone in an uproar over what they post. Especially since blabbermouth tried to pull up bs on MP and then we have everyone pissed at blabbermouth. It's the same situation, but with one person instead of a crappy news site. Rumors =/= news. And at the time, how can you be so sure that it was credible? The label and the band knew for sure, but how did you know it was credible then? Again for the record, rumors =/= news. Blabbermouth is always criticized for posting rumors, regaredless of whether or not they're correct, and they always get flak over it. This is the exact same situation. Moral of the story, don't post rumors.

alright so stop reading blabbermouth if you dont like them lol. or you could just send them an email tell them they're "low" as well.

[SystematicThought]

And the "low" thing too. Seriously, do you need to do that?

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I'll have to watch it. MP is always entertaining when he's around Eddie and the guys, regardless of any drama.

(I do still take issue with Eddie leaking Mangini's involvement with DT. That was pretty low)

lol like you actually care about that. he said RUMORED first of all, and secondly the band was being ridiculous about that entire situation. as for eddie, hes one of the only guys out there actually promoting heavy music.

That still doesn't excuse posting like that. He should have kept it to himself, first and foremost.

he did NOTHING wrong. its not like the band trusted him with this secret information and he leaked it. he said it was STRONGLY RUMOURED. im not sure why youre even irked by him saying that, unless youre really that much of a fanboy. putting aside the fact that he did nothing wrong, the band was being absolutely ridiculous about that entire situation.

The band wasn't being ridiculous about anything. They've been so calm, publicly, about this whole fiasco. And just because I clash with your personal opinion certainly does not mean i'm 'that much of fanboy.' However, I do take offense to your comments on me directly. The fact is, Eddie Trunk should have kept it to himself, strongly rumored or not, I don't give a shit.

whoever it was. whether it be the band, or the record label, and im not ruling out the possibility that it was the label, it was a ridiculous situation. to intently keep that sorta thing from your fans for that long was crazy. i saw the posts on facebook and on the forums. people were extremely irritated by it. its not like they were even trying to build momentum for the albums release, given how far after it came out. take it up with eddie trunk. i dont agree with his opinions all the time (thats for sure) but he never did anything "low" that im aware of. stop pretending its so scandalous that he posted a rumor that had NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT on the band or the sales.

You can be irritated about them holding off on the announcement all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But they did that for a reason and that was to provide the fans with the auditions videos so that they could share the experience with the fans. It was a great strategy and an obvious success since people were able to watch as DT jammed with the other drummers and eventually chose MM. No offense, but what rock were you under up until the release of ADTOE? There was at least an equal amount of promotion to BC&SL, especially with MM being the new drummer and all. That maybe your opinion on Eddie Trunk posting about MM, but I assure you a very large amount of people here and elsewhere disagree with you. Especially with SystematicThought referring to the thread that was created before you registered here. You missed a hell of a lot of criticism and anger towards Eddie Trunk there. I never said (or has anyone else here) that it affected the band in any way. However, a lot of people here at upset that Eddie Trunk leaked the new drummer's identity considering his relation with MP and how he is a fan of everything MP produces (and I mean everything. lol.). It was very low of him to be posting the rumor (since it was a rumor at the time). Rumors aren't news and I'm sure MP would agree with that looking back of the latest blabbermouth bs that involved him.

the documentary was a great idea and i really enjoyed it. im just saying it was retarded how that situation was handled by the label or whoever it was. anyone who was mad at eddie trunk over something like that needed (or needs) to get over it lol. if he was trusted with this information from the band and THEN leaked it i could see the point. but given that the guy COVERS NEWS IN HEAVY MUSIC he has every right, and i would go so far as to say obligation to post news and (credible/reasonable) rumors. like i said, i dont agree with the guy all the time, but i appreciate what hes been trying to do for a genre of music thats been written off as dead. he did nothing wrong. period.

I would very much like to see where your getting this "label or whoever" that handled this situation "retarded." You seem to be doing a lot of 'or this or that' blah. And once again, posting rumors is not posting news. Blabbermouth is quite famous for doing this and we always see basically everyone in an uproar over what they post. Especially since blabbermouth tried to pull up bs on MP and then we have everyone pissed at blabbermouth. It's the same situation, but with one person instead of a crappy news site. Rumors =/= news. And at the time, how can you be so sure that it was credible? The label and the band knew for sure, but how did you know it was credible then? Again for the record, rumors =/= news. Blabbermouth is always criticized for posting rumors, regaredless of whether or not they're correct, and they always get flak over it. This is the exact same situation. Moral of the story, don't post rumors.

alright so stop reading blabbermouth if you dont like them lol. or you could just send them an email tell them they're "low" as well.

I think everyone who knows about blabbermouth knows their reputation. And I don't read blabbermouth, i merely used that site as an example because Trunk pulled a typical blabbermouth move in his post about MM.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

My main though is that his friendship with MP could have played a role in him posting the rumor. It is very clear that Eddie isn't a DT fan but rather an MP fan. That's why the whole thing is aggravating, the band was close to announcing Mangini and than Eddie posts a rumor.

And I know you find that stance to be laughable, but I could care less.

And I took that GIF as a personal attack, or at least posted in a mocking way

uh...wow lol. if you think thats a personal attack i dunno what to say to you lol. thats the most absurd thing ive ever heard if you actually think thats a personal attack. im not sure i believe you. are you just trying to get the mods to ban me?

you have NO idea what eddie is a fan of. hes a mike portnoy fan for sure. theyre great friends, but you have no idea whether he likes DTs music or not. given the fact that hes embraced nearly every heavy band, i dont know why you'd think he draws the line at DT.

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you have NO idea what eddie is a fan of. hes a mike portnoy fan for sure. theyre great friends, but you have no idea whether he likes DTs music or not. given the fact that hes embraced nearly every heavy band, i dont know why you'd think he draws the line at DT.

He said Trunk was a fan of MP and then you say the same thing. Thanks for repeating what SystematicThought had already posted.

[blackngold29]

Can't really comment on the show until I see it.


As for other discussion, I also did not like the Trunk - Mangini leak. I think some people are confusing things too. Pretty sure he said that Mangini was the guy, then tried to back off later saying he thought it was common knowledge (which it wasn't and someone in his position should have known; no clue where he would've gotten the info). Wish twitter would add a damn search feature for older tweets.

It was Blabbermouth used the term 'strongly rumored' in reference to Minnemann, which they -- to my knowledge -- completely fabricated.

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Can't really comment on the show until I see it.


As for other discussion, I also did not like the Trunk - Mangini leak. I think some people are confusing things too. Pretty sure he said that Mangini was the guy, then tried to back off later saying he thought it was common knowledge (which it wasn't and someone in his position should have known; no clue where he would've gotten the info). Wish twitter would add a damn search feature for older tweets.

It was Blabbermouth used the term 'strongly rumored' in reference to Minnemann, which they -- to my knowledge -- completely fabricated.

Trunk later deleted the tweet within a few hours of posting it, but he did backpedal on the whole deal.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

you have NO idea what eddie is a fan of. hes a mike portnoy fan for sure. theyre great friends, but you have no idea whether he likes DTs music or not. given the fact that hes embraced nearly every heavy band, i dont know why you'd think he draws the line at DT.

He said Trunk was a fan of MP and then you say the same thing. Thanks for repeating what SystematicThought had already posted.

thanks for missing the point of that post.