Bad vocal editing in Beneath the Surface.

[1neeto]

I must agree with the listening music with a notepad on the side comment. Just enjoy the music! If you look for flaws you will always find them.

[Kotowboy]

People who like to scrutinise every little thing should probably not listen to the new Primus album   

[ddtonfire]

Not sure if SRS but I'm totally cool with overdubs in the Studio to produce a piece of art.

Sorry, my green font button's broken 

[Priest of Syrinx]

My sarcasm meter's pegged.

[Cranky]

In lost Not Forgotten, you can tell that they recorded one section at a time, because when the song goes into the next section, the previous section just cuts off abruptly.

[Ħ]

The only complaint I have with vocal editing is the first chorus of TITL, where James just doesn't sound full.

[Crash]

I don't hear the autotune. There's a natural phase effect with James doubling himself, but I don't hear T-Pain/Will.I.am style fx anywhere. Try the new Alice Cooper- it's all over that.

When autotune is being used in the manner it was designed, you won't hear it. You have to go to the extremes to get the T-pain sound. I have mixed many a project with Autotune that is not detectable to the average listener.

[ibosmiley]

I really don't notice any autotune myself...  the song sounds great to me.  I guess I'm old fashioned... I just listen to the music for enjoyment and don't overanalyze each word, note, or song segment...  shrugs...

[Priest of Syrinx]

In most of DT's music, I can hear that equipment is used to increase the loudness of the guitars.

[ddtonfire]

The only complaint I have with vocal editing is the first chorus of TITL, where James just doesn't sound full.

I've noticed this too!

[ironsam]

Dood, examples please...I'm not challenging you, I am basically just asking so I can hear and learn. 

Ok, I just gave it a listen and noted down the few that bother me a bit. Note - the thing that makes pitch correction sound obvious is not that the notes are on pitch. It's the way it "slides" between notes so smoothly and quickly that makes it sound artificial. So in all of these cases, listen to the way the voice goes from one note to another note.

0:28 - The entire first line, especially in the middle of the word "ever", the middle of "really", and the note slide inbetween those two words.
0:43 - middle of the word "stars" - minor third interval, really quick. Sounds unnatural.
1:35 - Middle of the words "never" and "went"
4:04 - I recall there is a little pitch correction blip here on the upper harmony, but only my left headphone is working right now, so I can't hear it at the moment.
4:50 - the little melody on "remained" doesn't even sound human, and it's the one that bugs me the most, especially the last note drop at the end of the word. It goes down a minor third ridiculously quick at the end.

You may listen to some of these and think "oh I guess when you point it out and I listen closely I can sorta hear what you mean", or you may listen and think "that just sounds like good singing to me, I'm not hearing an issue".

Besides the blip and possibly the 4:50 example, the rest are quite singable naturally and are very likely an intentional part of the melody.  In fact, I'm pretty sure those aren't autotunes at all.  I can sing these right along with him, but I'm a well above average singer, so maybe its hard for people that suck with pitch control.

[OptionalPlayer]

I just heard at 4:06-4:07, the sounds of someone saying, "Cap" or something like that.

At first I had assumed it was a blip from copying the CD to my computer.

I put the CD in, listened for it, and found it - clear as day. It's as noticeable as the Windows sound in New Millennium.

I don't know if this was brought up at all already, but it didn't seem to have been!

[Ħ]

the Windows sound in New Millennium.

Where is this?

[OptionalPlayer]

For New Millennium it's at 2:09.

You can hear it on LTE's Universal Mind at 1:27 as well.

[Lowdz]

I just heard at 4:06-4:07, the sounds of someone saying, "Cap" or something like that.

At first I had assumed it was a blip from copying the CD to my computer.

I put the CD in, listened for it, and found it - clear as day. It's as noticeable as the Windows sound in New Millennium.

I don't know if this was brought up at all already, but it didn't seem to have been!

just sounds like a doubling of "kept" to me.
As to the other suggested uses of autotune, they just sound like pronounciation to me. I would hate to have such critical ears because I think it must spoil the enjoyment of music.
i'm glad I came from the analog era. That vinyl covered a multitude of sins. And I'm so glad it did.

[Ħ]

For New Millennium it's at 2:09.

You can hear it on LTE's Universal Mind at 1:27 as well.

Can't hear either of them.

[OptionalPlayer]

Consider yourselves lucky then.

I'm permanently stuck hearing them for the rest of my life.

[dedSurroun]

4:50 - the little melody on "remained" doesn't even sound human, and it's the one that bugs me the most, especially the last note drop at the end of the word. It goes down a minor third ridiculously quick at the end.

Uh, really? I've heard many singers do this, live.

Perhaps it is autotuned, but seriously, it's not unnatural.