Outcry Appeciation Thread

[Jaffa]

Well, in reference to the Tootsie Pop owl (wonder how many of you know what the heck I'm referring to), how many licks (listens) does it take to get to the center of the song Outcry?

OMGURSOOLD!!!!1!!!!!1 

Wonder if that means you knew what I was talking about, making USOOLD2!!!   

'90s kids are old now?

Fuck.

[BlackInk]

Maybe it's already been posted but does anyone else feel the part right after "as our children die..." will an awesome live fan-chanting moment?

[JasonScandopolous]

Did any of you catch the references to multiple other albums in this song, mainly in the instrumental section and most obviously the end of SDOIT (disc 2) at the end of the song?

Theres one run of notes that is from octavarium (the song), and other references I forgot because I've only heard it twice... this is aside from the metropolis sounding parts near the beginning of the song.  EDIT: I think there was a part that referenced Home actually, distorted and at higher speed, much like the distorted and higher speed references to metropolis in the song.  I still can't remember others, there was a reference to something in SC as well.

I havent heard a reference to every single album, but, if they've referenced this many they probably did reference them all.

P.S. don't blast me for hearing this stuff in the song.  for all I know this is going to get a "duh we knew that already response" or a "wtf are you smoking" response.

[Priest of Syrinx]

Well, in reference to the Tootsie Pop owl (wonder how many of you know what the heck I'm referring to), how many licks (listens) does it take to get to the center of the song Outcry?

OMGURSOOLD!!!!1!!!!!1 
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Wonder if that means you knew what I was talking about, making USOOLD2!!!   

Yup. /sigh

[Priest of Syrinx]

'90s kids are old now?

Fuck.

70's son.  And, um, before that. 

[CrimsonE]

"It's an outcry from the world we thought we'd inherit
It's an outcry from the way we thought we'd share it."

Sorry--wrong song 

[Priest of Syrinx]

"It's an outcry from the world we thought we'd inherit
It's an outcry from the way we thought we'd share it."

Sorry--wrong song 

lolcry

[Bacong]

Best chorus on the album, and maybe my favorite DT chorus.

[faizoff]

Tied at favorite from the album along with Breaking All Illusions

[edu]

It´s my third favourite, after BAI y BITS. The keybords in the epic part in teh intro sound kind of  "disney" to me, but in a good way.

[RuRoRul]

Tied at favorite from the album along with Breaking All Illusions

This.

[Jaffa]

'90s kids are old now?

Fuck.

70's son.  And, um, before that. 

I was just referring to the Tootsie Pop Owl.  Those commercials were still on TV in the '90s, so I wasn't sure how remembering them was supposed to make anyone 'old.'

Also, Outcry is finally beginning to click with me.  It feels good.  =D

[CrimsonSunrise]

Anyone else equate some of JR's intro parts to this....?

@ .26 - Automatic weapons fire from afar

@ .30 - Radio static

@ . 39 - Helicopter flying overhead

[JasonScandopolous]

Did any of you catch the references to multiple other albums in this song, mainly in the instrumental section and most obviously the end of SDOIT (disc 2) at the end of the song?

Theres one run of notes that is from octavarium (the song), and other references I forgot because I've only heard it twice... this is aside from the metropolis sounding parts near the beginning of the song.  EDIT: I think there was a part that referenced Home actually, distorted and at higher speed, much like the distorted and higher speed references to metropolis in the song.  I still can't remember others, there was a reference to something in SC as well.

I havent heard a reference to every single album, but, if they've referenced this many they probably did reference them all.

P.S. don't blast me for hearing this stuff in the song.  for all I know this is going to get a "duh we knew that already response" or a "wtf are you smoking" response.

I listened to this at work and had a pad of paper, so I wrote down where I heard the stuff:

In the presence of enemies ~5:43.  [This one I'm less sure about... it sounds similar at least, but Im not confident that it's an actual reference]
Metropolis part I:  6:46 - 6:54
Octavarium:  8:34 - 8:41
SDOIT disc 2 finale:  10:54- end

[BlackInk]

I'm getting a pretty strong This Dying Soul vibe from 5:30-5:50.

[RuRoRul]

The In The Presence Of Enemies one was the only one I thought was really, really similar. Even then I don't know if they are really deliberate references or not, just places where they have used something similar to previous songs. But if you're considering them references, then I'd say ITPOE is the strongest one there.

[Priest of Syrinx]

'90s kids are old now?

Fuck.

70's son.  And, um, before that. 

I was just referring to the Tootsie Pop Owl.  Those commercials were still on TV in the '90s, so I wasn't sure how remembering them was supposed to make anyone 'old.'

Oh wow, I didn't even know that.   

[livehard]

Its so funny to hear that people had the same exact experience.  It just clicked for me

[BFRedrocks]

'90s kids are old now?

Fuck.

70's son.  And, um, before that. 

I was just referring to the Tootsie Pop Owl.  Those commercials were still on TV in the '90s, so I wasn't sure how remembering them was supposed to make anyone 'old.'

Oh wow, I didn't even know that.

Yeah, me either...I'm a 70's kid and I assumed that the Tootsie Pop owl went the way of Schoolhouse Rock cartoons and the like well before the 90's.

Oh, and back on topic, this song is flying up the list for me...definitely a solid #3 behind BAI and BMUBMD.

[JasonScandopolous]

The In The Presence Of Enemies one was the only one I thought was really, really similar. Even then I don't know if they are really deliberate references or not, just places where they have used something similar to previous songs. But if you're considering them references, then I'd say ITPOE is the strongest one there.

Really?  I'd think the SDOIT one was the most obvious, since it is literally the exact same thing (same percussion instrument being hit, gradually slowing, and then a gong).  Listen to the end of this track and the end of SDOIT, it is literally the exact same thing!  That had to have been done on purpose.

If one accepts that there are references, I wonder what they meant to convey by putting them in this song...

[ResultsMayVary]

The instrumental section in this song flows so damn well. 

[Priest of Syrinx]

If one accepts that there are references, I wonder what they meant to convey by putting them in this song...

That they got tired?  Or perhaps they are trapped in an Octavarium of their own awesomeness?

[dongringo]

Outcry is my definition of EPIC.

[hefdaddy42]

I'd think the SDOIT one was the most obvious, since it is literally the exact same thing (same percussion instrument being hit, gradually slowing, and then a gong).  Listen to the end of this track and the end of SDOIT, it is literally the exact same thing!  That had to have been done on purpose.

Why does it have to have been done on purpose?  What is the purpose of having a gong in your drum kit if you never use it?  And how else would you use it, except to begin or end a song?

The ending fits the song.  There is no reason it has to be a deliberate nod to another song.

[darkshade]

I'd think the SDOIT one was the most obvious, since it is literally the exact same thing (same percussion instrument being hit, gradually slowing, and then a gong).  Listen to the end of this track and the end of SDOIT, it is literally the exact same thing!  That had to have been done on purpose.

Why does it have to have been done on purpose?  What is the purpose of having a gong in your drum kit if you never use it?  And how else would you use it, except to begin or end a song?

The ending fits the song.  There is no reason it has to be a deliberate nod to another song.

I do wish they ended the song on lower resolving chord, instead of the relative major

[CrimsonE]

While the first part of the song is pretty tepid, everything from the instrumental forward is absolutely amazing, which I could tell would be the case the minute the song kicked into the instrumental.  It just had an awesome vibe that the really good DT instrumental sections have (Home, ITNOG, LTL). 

[Edan the Man]

I love this song, probably my third favorite on the album. There is ONE tiny part that bothers me though, and it's the way James sings this one particular line:

"The streets are bathed in blood, tiiime tostepdown and time to walk away"

Doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the song, but is anyone else bothered by the odd phrasing there?

[CodyWanKenobi]

I can really see the crowd getting into this song during a show. I hope they play it on the 25th.

[CrimsonSunrise]

I can really see the crowd getting into this song during a show. I hope they play it on the 25th.

I hope they play it on the 25th too 

[JasonScandopolous]

I'd think the SDOIT one was the most obvious, since it is literally the exact same thing (same percussion instrument being hit, gradually slowing, and then a gong).  Listen to the end of this track and the end of SDOIT, it is literally the exact same thing!  That had to have been done on purpose.

Why does it have to have been done on purpose?  What is the purpose of having a gong in your drum kit if you never use it?  And how else would you use it, except to begin or end a song?

The ending fits the song.  There is no reason it has to be a deliberate nod to another song.

It is exactly the same thing (same note and sound being used by JR in the background, same instrument and gradually slowing notes being hit by mangini, then gong) as SDOIT.  It's tough to say that it wasn't a deliberate nod to SDOIT unless you think one of two things:  that it isn't the same exact thing (I challenge you to listen to both if you think this is the case) or that DT doesn't know their own catalogue.  It is true that they might have meant nothing by it, but I think it's pretty clear that the reference exists.

[hefdaddy42]

It's pretty clear that a coincidence exists.  It's only a reference if it was intentional.

[Laich21DT]

This song has been more of a grower with me than any of the others off the album. After first listen, I would have put it somewhere in the bottom third. Now, after going through the disc about ten times it's probably third or fourth. A part that has really grown on me specifically is the "Rise up, be counted..." part. At first it didn't hit me too hard, but now I can see it being a very memorable and classic DT vocal line for me.

And yeah, the ending sounds quite a bit like the end of 6DOIT.

[BlackInk]

I can really see the crowd getting into this song during a show. I hope they play it on the 25th.

I hope they play it on the 25th too 

It will rock!

[BRGM]

This song is just getting better and better! Listening to it right now, it's kinda perfect in many ways, might be my fav track of teh album actually.

[faizoff]

I think Breaking All Illusions is still my favorite track, but Outcry is a very very close second.