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Bi-monthly Octavarium appreciation thread.

Started by ZKX-2099, December 09, 2010, 06:38:36 AM

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Sam

That flute part at the beginning is so beautiful, I'm not even ashamed to admit that it bought tears to my eyes when I first listened to it.

Marvellous G

Long after I've stopped listening to DT at all really, this is still in my top 5 songs of all time. OF ALL TIME!

AVFTTOTW

Quote from: skydivingninja on December 09, 2010, 08:12:15 AM
I still like the full circle section.  Its kind of a gimmick, but I'm a sucker for it, I guess.  I love that part, and the song is perfect from start to finish.  The album is pretty good too.

I kind of think of this section as DT's lyrical equivalent of famous third movement of Luciano Berio's Sinfonia, also even like Joyce's Finnegans Wake (preceded by T.S. Eliott's The Wasteland). Yes it is quite 'postmodern' in essence, though not as much in the deconstructionist-linguistic sense inasmuch as in a more pure innocent homage sense.
Though if I were to extract some philosophy from it, it is of the irony and inescapability of influence and aspiration in art (in the context of this, of a prog metal band 20 years into their career at the time).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinfonia_(Berio)#Third_movement

I bring in these comparisons not because Dream Theater themselves (apart from their amazing musicianship) are doing anything wildly experimental but because Octavarium really is an attempt to be DT's Kantian Ding an sich (Thing-In-Itself), making the arbitrariness of the lyrics of Full Circle very deliberate in the context of the song's message and personal meaning to the band itself in 2005.

hefdaddy42

Dude, please stop resurrecting 10+ year old threads.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.