Breaking All Illusions vs Other John Myung Songs

[senecadawg2]

Alright, so with the new album here, this thread was bound to happen. This is just for fun, although it is probably too early to rank these fairly as Breaking all Illusions is fresh and hasn't had the chance to sink in.

1. Learning To Live
2. Trial of Tears
3. Breaking All Illusions
4. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I did not include Fatal Tragedy as I consider that to be more of a fragment of a larger song, rather than an individual song. Also, as I said, this may not be fair to Breaking All Illusions because it hasn't had enough time to really grow on me and compete with the two classics above it (both of which find their way into my top 5 DT songs). Over the course of the next couple months this could change.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Learning to Live
Lifting Shadows off a Dream

All 4 are great though.

[Heretic]

1. Breaking All Illusions
2. Learning to Live
3. Trial of Tears
4. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

controversy time

[Mosh]

I knew this thread was coming!

Not gonna rank BII yet.

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy

Yeeeeep.

[FlyingBIZKIT]

1. Breaking All Illusions
2. Learning To Live
3. Trial Of Tears
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream

All oustanding songs.

[theseoafs]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

[Jaffa]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

This.

[ResultsMayVary]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

My thoughts exactly.

I prefer the music of BAI over LTL, but I have LTL above BAI just in the lyrics department.

[senecadawg2]

I was tempted to do like most of you have done and put BAI as number 1. I love every second of it. I just don't feel comfortable putting it ahead of Learning to Live and TOT yet. I just don't think it would be completely fair to them   

[senecadawg2]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

My thoughts exactly.
I prefer the music of BAI over LTL, but I have LTL above BAI just in the lyrics department.

Yes, lyrically I think LTL and TOT are both stronger, but the music in BAI is just so damn good.

[InertSolo]

1. Learning to Live
2. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
3. Breaking All Illusions
4. Trial of Tears


Not particularly as much of a fan of Trial of Tears as much as the rest of the community seems to be.

[Implode]

Trial of Tears
Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Fatal Tragedy

All great songs.

[Metrovarium]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

This. I'd put Fatal Tragedy in between Lifting Shadows and TOT.

[emindead]

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy





5: Breaking All Illusions

[RuRoRul]

Learning To Live
Trial Of Tears
Breaking All Illusions (really close to these two and could overtake them, but it takes more than a few listens to shake songs this great from where I regard them)
Fatal Tragedy (I don't consider this to be a fragment of a song)
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Lifting Shadows Off A Dream

[theseoafs]

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy





5: Breaking All Illusions

Go away.

[3xodus]

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy





5: Breaking All Illusions

This.. Except BAI isn't that damn far away from all of them, it's just the least epic of the five, and all are some of my favorite songs.

[tjanuranus]

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy





5: Breaking All Illusions

Go away.

[Heretic]

1: Learning to Live
2: Trial of Tears
3: Lifting Shadows
4: Fatal Tragedy





5: Breaking All Illusions

Go away.

[Riceball]

I won't rank them, but how is that for a short set:

Breaking All Illusions
Fatal Tragedy
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Trial of Tears
-Encore-
Learning to Live

Dayum...

[Chimpi]

Learning to Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

I know it's fresh and I've avoided these rankings but I'm fairly certain this is where it will stay.

I agree with all of this, though listing Lifting Shadows at #4 does not equate to it being a relatively poor song.
All 4: Supreme.

[Vajra]

Including the pre-ballads...

#1 - Breaking All Illusions (Far from Heaven) -tied with- Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live (Wait for Sleep)
#3 - Fatal Tragedy
#4 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

Without the pre-ballads

#1 - Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live
#3 - Breaking All Illusions
#4 - Fatal Tragedy
#5 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

[Cranky]

1. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
2. Fatal Tragedy
3. Breaking All Illusions

....

4. Learning to Live ( the only section I like is the second half)
5. Trial of Tears

[The Letter M]

Including the pre-ballads...

#1 - Breaking All Illusions (Far from Heaven) -tied with- Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live (Wait for Sleep)
#3 - Fatal Tragedy (Through my words)
#4 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

Without the pre-ballads

#1 - Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live
#3 - Breaking All Illusions
#4 - Fatal Tragedy
#5 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

Well if you're going to do that, why not toss "Anna Lee" before "Trial of Tears"? They segue together too, ya know!

As for my ranking...

1. Learning To Live
2. Breaking All Illusions
3. Trial Of Tears
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
5. Fatal Tragedy

Oddly enough, I'd call LSOAD the "pre-ballad" to the epic "Scarred". In that case, how would the PAIRS of songs with a JMX-lyric rank? I'd probably still rank them the same order. 

-Marc.

[Vajra]

Including the pre-ballads...

#1 - Breaking All Illusions (Far from Heaven) -tied with- Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live (Wait for Sleep)
#3 - Fatal Tragedy (Through my words)
#4 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

Without the pre-ballads

#1 - Trial of Tears
#2 - Learning To Live
#3 - Breaking All Illusions
#4 - Fatal Tragedy
#5 - Lifting Shadows off a Dream

Well if you're going to do that, why not toss "Anna Lee" before "Trial of Tears"? They segue together too, ya know!

As for my ranking...

1. Learning To Live
2. Breaking All Illusions
3. Trial Of Tears
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
5. Fatal Tragedy

Oddly enough, I'd call LSOAD the "pre-ballad" to the epic "Scarred". In that case, how would the PAIRS of songs with a JMX-lyric rank? I'd probably still rank them the same order. 

-Marc.

But Anna Lee doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Trial of Tears like it does with BAI and LTL. So...

[theseoafs]

But Anna Lee doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Trial of Tears like it does with BAI and LTL. So...

Through My Words doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Fatal Tragedy.

[Vajra]

But Anna Lee doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Trial of Tears like it does with BAI and LTL. So...

Through My Words doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Fatal Tragedy.

Oh, true. I'll edit my post then lol.

[The Letter M]

But Anna Lee doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Trial of Tears like it does with BAI and LTL. So...

Through My Words doesn't have any musical themes repeated in Fatal Tragedy.

Oh, true. I'll edit my post then lol.

Too late, it's been quoted!

Either way, though, the debate of FFH/BAI vs WFS/LTL will probably go on for years and years. Rest assured, though, fans will probably love having either pair of songs as the band's encore!

-Marc.

[BlobVanDam]

Trial of Tears

Breaking All Illusions
Fatal Tragedy
Learning to Live





Lifting Shadows Off a Dream


They're mostly very consistent, but ToT is one of my favourites, so I put that one apart. The other three are pretty similarly good to me for entirely different reasons. And LSOAD doesn't even rank.

[Zydar]

Learning To Live
Breaking All Illusions
Trial Of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream

[Ħ]

Trial of Tears
Learning to Live
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Fatal Tragedy
Breaking All Illusions

[Jirpo]

Haven't listened to BAI yet, but I'll rank the other 4:

ToT
LSOAD
LTL
FT

[smerfak]

Learning to Live
Trail of Tears
Fatal Tragedy

Lifting Shadow off a Dream

First three songs are in my top10. At the moment I'd put Breaking All Illusions somewhere close to FT.

[Reaven]

1. Learning to Live
2. Trial of Tears
3. Fatal Tragedy

4. Breaking All Illusions
5. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream

Top 3 are all 10/10 DT Masterpieces!

[Quarter_Cask]

looking at this thread makes me think: jmx should definitely write more often