MP about I&W and ADTOE connection

[alexofsweden]

Mike Portnoy writes this at his forum:

"Well done Thiago....great post and spot on!
I *immediately* noticed everything you wrote about upon my first listen...
and found it all incredibly strange...   
 
If they are indeed intentional "nuggets", then I guess that's a pretty cool idea...
However, if they were desperate attempts of secretly re-writing the past...hmm, maybe not so much...
I guess only they will know the real reason for it.... "

link: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?high=&m=2666577&mpage=100#2706658

[Mosh]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

[Adami]

I'm not sure he knows what "re-writing the past" means.

[Liberation]

I had been defending MP quite a lot before but... this is lame, to say the least.

Btw anyone can copy that post here? I don't use facebook and can't read it.

[Mosh]

Btw anyone can copy that post here? I don't use facebook and can't read it.

[OsMosis2259]

a big LOL to MP for that comment...

[aXygnus]

Oh wow. ****ing Blabbermouth.

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163086

[Dreamer81]

this guy need serious help...so ripping off Muse, U2 and Metallica was a nugget??? WTF?

[Madman Shepherd]

 ...and just when I thought his dealing with DT related stuff was getting more tactful...

[MarkFitDT]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

[theseoafs]

I'm not sure he knows what "re-writing the past" means.

I think it's pretty obvious he fears that the DT crew wanted to make a new, Portnoy-less incarnation of I&W.

[alexofsweden]

this guy need serious help...so ripping off Muse, U2 and Metallica was a nugget??? WTF?

Hey guys...my intention wasn´t jumpin on MP...i think he actually said a good thing...and he doesn´t sound bitter...so a thumbs up dammit

[Knguro]

If he refers to "re-writing the past" hopefully he will include not thinking about a reunion, cause that will be "re-writing the past".

[alexofsweden]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

" found it all incredibly strange" meaning: he thinks it would be strange if they used the I&W album as a guideline...that he think they didnt

[MarkFitDT]

this guy need serious help...so ripping off Muse, U2 and Metallica was a nugget??? WTF?

Hey guys...my intention wasn´t jumpin on MP...i think he actually said a good thing...and he doesn´t sound bitter...so a thumbs up dammit

Alex, im 99% sure he was having a dig at the album.

[Dreamer81]

this guy need serious help...so ripping off Muse, U2 and Metallica was a nugget??? WTF?

Hey guys...my intention wasn´t jumpin on MP...i think he actually said a good thing...and he doesn´t sound bitter...so a thumbs up dammit

He sound bitter!! I'm still asking what this means :"secretly re-writing the past"  and he's incensing every other release than DT just to put ADTOE on a lower level. Wait for the album to be officially released and he will comment it in some bad way (it sound outdated, boring...)

[theseoafs]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

" found it all incredibly strange" meaning: he thinks it would be strange if they used the I&W album as a guideline...that he think they didnt

That is not what he said at all. Read it again. He said he heard the album, noticed the similarities, and found them strange.

[alexofsweden]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

" found it all incredibly strange" meaning: he thinks it would be strange if they used the I&W album as a guideline...that he think they didnt

That is not what he said at all. Read it again. He said he heard the album, noticed the similarities, and found them strange.

you´re right, my bad

[Madman Shepherd]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

" found it all incredibly strange" meaning: he thinks it would be strange if they used the I&W album as a guideline...that he think they didnt

That is not what he said at all. Read it again. He said he heard the album, noticed the similarities, and found them strange.

...and then made a passive aggressive dig at the album.  I don't think he is very happy with the fact that everyone is saying that this is the best album since SFAM and some are even saying it is the best since Awake and I&W

[farsight]

I hope that Thiago dude doesnt get to listen AC/DC because his head will song-structure asplode!

[KISS 76]

It might be nice of him to post something positive on the release of the cd? Otherwise it looks a little bitter of him to knowledge the new Anthrax etc... but not mention DT. He should of expected this outcome once he decided to leave the band? Quite a fall to play to a couple of hundred people a night instead of the 1000's while he was with DT. I wish him the best in all his future projects but hope he can get past all the sniping...

[MarkFitDT]

That's cool that he acknowledged the album.

I dont think he was acknowledging it in a good way - saying he found it all incredibly strange, I think he was actually having a dig.

What I find strange is that he thinks he is in any position to criticise after being involved in the Adrenaline Mob EP - it had every cliche in the book.

" found it all incredibly strange" meaning: he thinks it would be strange if they used the I&W album as a guideline...that he think they didnt

That is not what he said at all. Read it again. He said he heard the album, noticed the similarities, and found them strange.

you´re right, my bad

its not ur bad Alex, its Portnoys. He definitely was having a dig but in an indirect way. Like Madman says the response to the album has been extremely positive on the whole and that is probably what is getting under his skin. He really shouldnt have commented like he did, he must have known what the response would have been like.

[hefdaddy42]

I read that comparison, and listened to the songs.  And while some of the things he said had merit, some others are very forced.  And frankly, I think MP is being somewhat disingenuous when he says that he noticed it right off the bat.

[chrisbDTM]

lol so bitter. at least this is a more direct shot at the band. not his usual passive play the victim posts.

[Adami]

I read that comparison, and listened to the songs.  And while some of the things he said had merit, some others are very forced.  And frankly, I think MP is being somewhat disingenuous when he says that he noticed it right off the bat.

Possibly, but given what we know of his personality and his situation, it's very possible and even possibly likely that he listened to the album with the intent of finding something wrong with it.

[ivorydroid]

addressing the subject all I can say is - whaaaaaaaaateeeeeever

doesn't matter, had sex the album rocks

[chrisbDTM]

lets see how he talks his way out of this one. he will be the victim. no doubt about that

[kartmaze2]

ADToE is definitively not a rewrite of the past. 

[LTE777]

Hahahah love this post from Blabbermouth:

posted by : Bleearg
9/10/2011 4:15:04 PM
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It does sound like Images and Words... There are no SHIT Portnoy back up vocals [/b]


The album sounds like DT, it has influences from all their albums and a lot of new creative idea's and is Brilliant.

Who cares if it sound like another album, its supposed to....

Wonder if MP actually bought the album?

[LCArenas]

"Well done Thiago....great post and spot on!
I *immediately* noticed everything you wrote about upon my first listen...
and found it all incredibly strange...   
 
If they are indeed intentional "nuggets", then I guess that's a pretty cool idea...
However, if they were desperate attempts of secretly re-writing the past...hmm, maybe not so much...
I guess only they will know the real reason for it.... "

[chrisbDTM]

[Progmetty]

Shit MP, that's so lame and low.

[hefdaddy42]

I read that comparison, and listened to the songs.  And while some of the things he said had merit, some others are very forced.  And frankly, I think MP is being somewhat disingenuous when he says that he noticed it right off the bat.

Possibly, but given what we know of his personality and his situation, it's very possible and even possibly likely that he listened to the album with the intent of finding something wrong with it.

I think it's more likely that he didn't notice anything until reading that guy's article, and then he used that for artillery.

[alexofsweden]

i misread the whole text...i thought he was talking about DT in a positive way!! please delete this thread if it´s the opposite...don´t want it to be a MP bashing thread!! Mike is THE drummer...Whatever he said or done!! DT is right now on a "i just broke up with my girlfriend and can f"ck whoever i want" It feels great at first...´till they realised that what they had before was better...and then they go backr!! or not...whatever

[Jaq]

I think its funny that the guy most behind DT sounding like other bands and the supposed mastermind of the band's musical direction at the time when calling back to other albums became a habit would say anything about ADTOE's sounding like I&W. MP just needs to shut up about DT, he cant say anything without sounding either like a tool or hypocritical.