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Official "A Dramatic Turn Of Events" Review Thread

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wasteland

I am a little worried: If Outcry was the song supposed to "fuck our mind" or something like that, how can it be the "indifferent" moment of the release?

Jirpo


wasteland

Quote from: Jirpo on August 08, 2011, 03:31:49 AM
Different tastes :)

Well, tastes surely influence a great deal our judgement as well as the reviewer's, but I'm not convinced that's the case.

Take The Dance Of Eternity, for instance: it is probably the best example of a mind-fuck DT song. There are loads of people loving it, and many people who hate it wholeheartedly. Either way, an extreme song  like TDOE generates extreme reactions and opinions. This is why I am quite surprised...

tgstk2

#143
i will stop reading preview/reviews prior to hearing the album myself.

those review give me idears of the album/songs which might totally be the opposite of what I think of it.
And till now none of the reviews gave me that WOW factor

and it's only a month and a few dates till we have it...

i want my version on cassete deck!
But let's take it from the beginning ... The opening "On the Back of Angels" has a taste of "Falling Into Infinity". Since such configurations are numerous the Theater. The rest belongs to the more contemporary sound,
OTBA look likes FII?? wtf? i do no agree
"Build Me Up, Break Me Down ", with strong elements of the (underrated)" Octavarium ".ymeh...that's doesn't give me  :metal
Third song "Lost Not Forgotten ", with the known (successful) recipe refers to a potential single and will be sung by many.
so this is the readio friendly song of the album? hmmm note sure if i like this.
Somewhere here we reach the first ballad of the album, called "This is the Life ", which has at times the air of " old ", something that only positive I can perceive.i dont know what to make out of this


In "Bridges In the Sky ", however, I heard the best riff of the disc, while there was a " Scenes from a Memory " approach!best setence fo the review

"Outcry" is perhaps the most indifferent moment of the release. Then there is another ballad ("Far from Heaven "), more" naked ", music from the past, and the main role here are just as James Labrie and Jordan Rudess, in a truly beautiful moment that brings to mind " Wait for Sleep ".well another ballad...and even though it might have the best melody ever... it's well not my kind of pie. you know vacant is a great song, but also a great skipper

"Breaking All Illusions is full of emotion, while the melodic chorus that accompanies it proves that the band continues to " have it " in terms of melody and that can still inspire their listeners. also sounds promiissing

The fee brings in "Beneath the Surface", with a sweet melancholy which refers to "The Silent Man"please got no, TSM is so damn boring :omg:

Psy


wasteland

#145
Quote from: tgstk2 on August 08, 2011, 03:40:20 AM
*comments*


You are the metalhead guy, aren't you?  ;)

As far as I'm concerned, I am quite encouraged by this review (besides the Outcry thing). The Silent Man is lovely, especially live!

jonny108

Breaking All Illusions is easily my most anticipated song.  Sounds great.  :)

tgstk2

Quote from: wasteland on August 08, 2011, 03:53:05 AM
Quote from: tgstk2 on August 08, 2011, 03:40:20 AM
*comments*


You are the metalhead guy, aren't you?  ;)

As far as I'm concerned, I am quite encouraged by this review (besides the Outcry thing). The Silent Man is lovely, especially live!

QFT!! regarding the metal head part, although i totally love moody laidback stuff..like DTP.

Dream Team

I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

wasteland

Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

The same could be said about the ones who want DT to be more proggy. And I am for sure among them  :lol

BlobVanDam

Quote from: wasteland on August 08, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

The same could be said about the ones who want DT to be more proggy.

Yeah, I could take Dream Team's sentence and sub the word prog in, and it works just as well.

Dream Team

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2011, 06:52:19 AM
Quote from: wasteland on August 08, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

The same could be said about the ones who want DT to be more proggy.

Yeah, I could take Dream Team's sentence and sub the word prog in, and it works just as well.

The Metal Archives: 80,261 bands
Non-Prog Metal: 74,760
Prog Metal: 5,501
A 13.5-to-1 ratio

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2011, 06:52:19 AM
Quote from: wasteland on August 08, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

The same could be said about the ones who want DT to be more proggy.

Yeah, I could take Dream Team's sentence and sub the word prog in, and it works just as well.

The Metal Archives: 80,261 bands
Non-Prog Metal: 74,760
Prog Metal: 5,501
A 13.5-to-1 ratio

What's your point? My guess is you've got another 5000 or so prog bands out there to explore before complaining that one particular band is too heavy for your tastes.

PS Head

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2011, 06:52:19 AM
Quote from: wasteland on August 08, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand metal fans criticizing DT for not being metal enough. You do know there are 47,658 other metal bands to listen to if you need more heaviness?

The same could be said about the ones who want DT to be more proggy.

Yeah, I could take Dream Team's sentence and sub the word prog in, and it works just as well.

The Metal Archives: 80,261 bands
Non-Prog Metal: 74,760
Prog Metal: 5,501
A 13.5-to-1 ratio

What's your point? My guess is you've got another 5000 or so prog bands out there to explore before complaining that one particular band is too heavy for your tastes.

Who gives a shite about any of this comparison crap.Dream Theater have always covered both styles superbly well,which is why we all love them so much.Im sure ADToE will include both heavy,soft and prog...and most of us wouldnt have it any other way. ;)

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Dream Team on August 08, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
I'll never understand prog fans criticizing AM for not being prog enough. You do know there are 47,658 other prog-ish bands to listen to if you need more prog?

FTFY


OT: I don't mind reading reviews at all, It just gets me excited to know what other people think it sounds like, then get a general consensus until the time I can actually hear it with headphones on and let all my thoughts escape into the music until it ends.


Zydar

Quote from: nikatapi on August 09, 2011, 04:39:26 AM
Another review here, i don't know if google translate will again produce some funny sentences :P
https://www.rockhard.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=145:dream-theater-qa-dramatic-turn-of-eventsq-roadrunner&catid=37:2011-04-04-12-14-47&Itemid=233

Without the DREAM THEATER Mike Portnoy;, yes then! There is life after this leading drummer, founder and soul in shape. The DREAM THEATER, always after a major change in composition, had a very fresh face. We recall the "Images ..." after the singer changed or "Scenes ..." with the coming of Rudess. The "A dramatic turn of events", would describe as a drive that is "Scenes from a memory" of the 00's for the band. Not so much because they sound like (like that), but as a focal point of their career, the DREAM THEATER show once again, how great musicians and composers (above all) are. Sounds freed from some formulas that had been the undisputed leader (by Mike Portnoy), which means that we do not hear the agriofonara of doing brutal vocals, we have a song to be "tack» MUSE, TOOL, PANTERA and METALLICA, the second song of the album is Karga commercial (this psiloelenchetai to him "A dramatic ..." of course), the album does not begin and end with a huge in length "epic" piece and many others (including his compulsion be Portnoy writing songs for his alcoholism).

    WARNING! In no way detract from the terrible record as the "Black clouds and silver linings" or "Systematic chaos". Just to point out some things that mercy of excessively, dynamic presence Portnoy, nobody had the courage to rein. The production now that the deal only Petrucci, seems to have given room for the first time, perhaps in Myung highlight the incredible talent that has the "new», Mike Mangini, on drums, it sounds both front predecessor it. Speaking of Mangini, I must admit, that was probably the best replacement Portnoy and appears in "A dramatic ...", which although not involved in the composition of songs, shows how good a musician is in his own way. In verse and chorus of the songs do not encumbered by playing simple-mostly-rate and really xesalonei in solo and in other locations as required by the music of DREAM THEATER to play something (not just) above.

    More generally, to move finally to the presentation of the disc, the "A dramatic turn of events", possessed of a definite 90's atmosphere, leaving aside the most cruel forms of music of DREAM THEATER or even restricting them and revealing after long so-called DREAM THEATERismous (ie ypertachytata ypertechnika and solo guitar, keyboards and drums to give change) in many areas, but also many moments that bring to mind the LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT. The introductory "On the backs of angels", is a safe track to recommend the disc for fans. It has all the information introduced the DREAM THEATER. Generally, the disc does not have too many "risks", but his compositions are really great. The "Build me up, break me down" that follows, although it starts reminding LINKIN PARK, is by far the most "addictive" chorus of the album, showing that it is the first video of the album probably.

     The great strength of the disc are three ten-minute epics. The "Lost not forgotten", the "Outcry" and the amazing "Breaking all illusions". Especially the latter, will delight all fans of the old group, with inconceivably instrumental parts. The other ten-minute song, "Bridges in the sky", is very good, but perhaps a little less than the above. Beyond that, the "This is the life", is a imimpalanta, which differs from traditional ballads THEATER, with terrible tunes on guitar and atmosphere "The spirit carries on". The "Far from heaven" is very nice ballad with piano and close the album, is relatively indifferent to the ballad (also) "Beneath the surface".

    In conclusion, AMAZINGLY liked the fact that after several disks, the Petrucci decided to fill the solos with nice melodic parts, not only ypergrigora and technical. Liked that the Rudess leave aside the gimmicks type Charleston, playing sometimes and sometimes just leaving us with an open mouth in "duels" with the Petrucci. Who liked the LaBrie, singing up there who really can, without trying to do things that expose it to live. Liked to finally hear the driving force of the group, the John Myung, who sets the pace in stunning compositions. Liked that the Mangini does not sound like Portnoy (they tried to do it, would fail miserably).

    Yes, love to see you again in the Portnoy group, but I like very much this season. I like the freshness and balance earn so much themselves touting. I like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia. Real fans point to the wrong, but follow their favorite band. Why anyone turn around and say it drives like "Octavarium", the "Systematic ..." and "Black clouds ..." discs are not good, just not a fan of DREAM THEATER. Just not a fan of music.

Sakis Fragos

wasteland

QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.

This is easily the most hilarioush thing I've read this year  :lol

ACID_FOX


Zydar


BlackInk

Sounds good, except did he say This Is the Life was terrible or did I miss something? Can someone from Greece translate that section more accurately?

nikatapi

Quote from: BlackInk on August 09, 2011, 05:25:30 AM
Sounds good, except did he say This Is the Life was terrible or did I miss something? Can someone from Greece translate that section more accurately?

Its exactly the opposite, he says that the melodies of the guitar are terrific and that it has an atmosphere that is similar to "The spirit carries on", but at the same time it is different than the usual DT ballads.

Dublagent66

I was watching Bill O'Reilly last night and in his talking points memo he mentioned "a dramatic turn of events".   :lol

LCArenas

QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.
Damn gliftronia!

BlackInk

QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.
I xanascholithoun every Dream Theater album anyways.

nikatapi

Quote from: LCArenas on August 09, 2011, 08:50:24 AM
QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.
Damn gliftronia!

Quote from: BlackInk on August 09, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.
I xanascholithoun every Dream Theater album anyways.

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

ACID_FOX

Quote from: BlackInk on August 09, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
QuoteI like tragoudares who have written and I think that "A dramatic turn of events", will make some people who had written off over several disks to xanascholithoun them. But they are cheap gliftronia.
I xanascholithoun every Dream Theater album anyways.

:hefdaddy

tgstk2

I really wanted this thread to be on the first page again as we are getting closer to the release, so more reviews/previews...since nobody is making this a sticky...this is the reason why i enter this great reply.. :metal


atmyne

well its good to know there is more melody and less "ypergrigora" in JPs solos  :huh: :lol

nikatapi

Quote from: atmyne on August 25, 2011, 05:55:54 AM
well its good to know there is more melody and less "ypergrigora" in JPs solos  :huh: :lol

it means super-fast ;)

wasteland

Quote from: nikatapi on August 25, 2011, 06:59:59 AM
Quote from: atmyne on August 25, 2011, 05:55:54 AM
well its good to know there is more melody and less "ypergrigora" in JPs solos  :huh: :lol

it means super-fast ;)

And what about xanascholithoun and gliftronia?

nikatapi

xanascholithoun means in the context of the sentence that people who stopped listening to DT will start listening to their music again.
Gliftronia means people who say good things or pretend to like something but they do it just to get some approval.

I guess i should start a thread with Greek lessons, as most of the interviews and reviews come from my country these days... :lol
Actually there is an interview with JLB coming soon, so get ready to see if there will be any funny stuff from google translate again...

wasteland

Quote from: nikatapi on August 25, 2011, 07:16:31 AM
xanascholithoun means in the context of the sentence that people who stopped listening to DT will start listening to their music again.
Gliftronia means people who say good things or pretend to like something but they do it just to get some approval.

I guess i should start a thread with Greek lessons, as most of the interviews and reviews come from my country these days... :lol
Actually there is an interview with JLB coming soon, so get ready to see if there will be any funny stuff from google translate again...

Next time I see a poser I will shout: "You're just a fucking gliftronia!", then.  :lol

nikatapi

Quote from: wasteland on August 25, 2011, 07:20:45 AM
Quote from: nikatapi on August 25, 2011, 07:16:31 AM
xanascholithoun means in the context of the sentence that people who stopped listening to DT will start listening to their music again.
Gliftronia means people who say good things or pretend to like something but they do it just to get some approval.

I guess i should start a thread with Greek lessons, as most of the interviews and reviews come from my country these days... :lol
Actually there is an interview with JLB coming soon, so get ready to see if there will be any funny stuff from google translate again...

Next time I see a poser I will shout: "You're just a fucking gliftronia!", then.  :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin