Bucharest DVD

DarkLord_Lalinc · July 30, 2011, 09:55:41 AM

Probably the best setlist for any DT DVD out there. Appreciate this fantastic bootleg.

wasteland · July 30, 2011, 09:58:53 AM

Too bad James was going through one of the worst periods of his career.

DarkLord_Lalinc · July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM

James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Lynxo · July 30, 2011, 10:11:08 AM

Agreed, I think it's one of his better nights.

The encore is just unbelievable!

wasteland · July 30, 2011, 10:19:54 AM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Agree (this is why I watched CiM only once), but James could sing way better in the spring north american leg of the same tour. His condition dropped in the summer and did not significantly improve during the last two legs, leading the band to the famous "ultimatum" to James.

MetropolisxPt1 · July 30, 2011, 11:58:59 AM

JLB's performance on LTL might be the worst he has ever sung. love the DVD but the vocals bring it down a bit for me. However JLB was pretty conscious to how his voice was that night he didnt try things he knew he couldn't pull off.

Tomislav95 · July 30, 2011, 12:22:57 PM

Setlist is great but I agree JLB's performance is not the best. However he's better than on Budokan, Chile or CiM DVD.

Metabog · July 30, 2011, 01:10:21 PM

Heh. I could have caught it since I live in Romania, but I wasn't a fan back then unfortunately.

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 02:11:20 PM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

I've heard James on the videos online from the Chaos In Motion tour, and I also saw James live during the same tour... all I have to say is, the recordings DO NOT do his voice justice. He sounded absolutely amazing live when I saw him, I was literally blown away by how great he sounded. The recorded videos on the other hand, I can barely listen to him, he sounds atrocious in them for some reason.

Why the hell is this?

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 02:12:50 PM

Quote from: wasteland on July 30, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Agree (this is why I watched CiM only once), but James could sing way better in the spring north american leg of the same tour. His condition dropped in the summer and did not significantly improve during the last two legs, leading to the band to the famous "ultimatum" to James.

What do you mean? Was the band threatening to kick him out if he didn't improve?

DarkLord_Lalinc · July 30, 2011, 02:16:12 PM

Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: wasteland on July 30, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Agree (this is why I watched CiM only once), but James could sing way better in the spring north american leg of the same tour. His condition dropped in the summer and did not significantly improve during the last two legs, leading to the band to the famous "ultimatum" to James.
What do you mean? Was the band threatening to kick him out if he didn't improve?

Yup

DarkLord_Lalinc · July 30, 2011, 02:18:01 PM

Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.
I've heard James on the videos online from the Chaos In Motion tour, and I also saw James live during the same tour... all I have to say is, the recordings DO NOT do his voice justice. He sounded absolutely amazing live when I saw him, I was literally blown away by how great he sounded. The recorded videos on the other hand, I can barely listen to him, he sounds atrocious in them for some reason.

Why the hell is this?

I totally get what you mean. Somehow, it's not like LaBrie's voice and recording devices get along well. What I've noticed, is that several recordings posted on youtube during various concerts are a bit low on the low frequencies, causing LaBrie's voice to sound somewhat thin at times.

Sketchy · July 30, 2011, 02:20:55 PM

First official bootleg I got... And I love it (shame my DVD player destroyed it, I'm still not sure how).

The only problem with it I have is Petrucci plays guitar over the best bit of bass in Lines In The Sand.

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 02:45:50 PM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: wasteland on July 30, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Agree (this is why I watched CiM only once), but James could sing way better in the spring north american leg of the same tour. His condition dropped in the summer and did not significantly improve during the last two legs, leading to the band to the famous "ultimatum" to James.
What do you mean? Was the band threatening to kick him out if he didn't improve?

Yup

Jesus, that's harsh. Are there any articles/videos that support this? I've never heard of this till now. I'd love to hear the situation from one of the band member's words.

MetropolisxPt1 · July 30, 2011, 02:50:33 PM

Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: wasteland on July 30, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
James doesn't sound that bad to me. He sounds way worse in Chaos in Motion.

Agree (this is why I watched CiM only once), but James could sing way better in the spring north american leg of the same tour. His condition dropped in the summer and did not significantly improve during the last two legs, leading to the band to the famous "ultimatum" to James.
What do you mean? Was the band threatening to kick him out if he didn't improve?
I believe they told him he needed to take better care of his voice or he would be gone.
Yup
Jesus, that's harsh. Are there any articles/videos that support this? I've never heard of this till now. I'd love to hear the situation from one of the band member's words.

IIRC I believe they told him to take care of his voice or be kicked out
edit haha lol i didnt even know i posted

Infinite Cactus · July 30, 2011, 02:55:33 PM

It's in lifting shadows.

tjanuranus · July 30, 2011, 02:58:15 PM

Jps lines in the sand solo is epiiiiiiiiiiic omg.

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 03:00:40 PM

Quote from: Infinite Cactus on July 30, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
It's in lifting shadows.

Man, that book really has a lot of good stuff in it that I would have never known. Didn't the author of the book browse this forum at one point? Or maybe it was the MP forum...

wasteland · July 30, 2011, 03:08:57 PM

Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Infinite Cactus on July 30, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
It's in lifting shadows.
Man, that book really has a lot of good stuff in it that I would have never known. Didn't the author of the book browse this forum at one point? Or maybe it was the MP forum...

He comes here daily, he is Rich Wilson

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 04:14:29 PM

Quote from: wasteland on July 30, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Infinite Cactus on July 30, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
It's in lifting shadows.
Man, that book really has a lot of good stuff in it that I would have never known. Didn't the author of the book browse this forum at one point? Or maybe it was the MP forum...

He comes here daily, he is Rich Wilson

Is that his username?

DarkLord_Lalinc · July 30, 2011, 04:46:27 PM

And his name.

Vajra · July 30, 2011, 05:21:25 PM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 04:46:27 PM
And his name.

Is he related to Steve Wilson?

Is this a prog conspiracy?

Mechanix1911 · July 31, 2011, 02:57:01 AM

Quote from: Samara on July 30, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 04:46:27 PM
And his name.
Is he related to Steve Wilson?

wtf

Metropolis Pt. II · July 31, 2011, 05:52:49 AM

I've been wondering if I should get the Bucharest DVD for the longest time, but I haven't gotten it since JLB apparently sounds somewhat poor. I also heard that the footage isn't the greatest quality and the camera isn't on Petrucci during a few of his solos. (I heard in general that the cinematography is not that great.) However, like several have said, the setlist is awesome.

So for those of you who have the DVD, how would you compare it with the others in a list? Would it be below/above L@B, CiM, LSFNY? etc.

wasteland · July 31, 2011, 06:23:03 AM

Quote from: Metropolis Pt. II on July 31, 2011, 05:52:49 AM
I've been wondering if I should get the Bucharest DVD for the longest time, but I haven't gotten it since JLB apparently sounds somewhat poor. I also heard that the footage isn't the greatest quality and the camera isn't on Petrucci during a few of his solos. (I heard in general that the cinematography is not that great.) However, like several have said, the setlist is awesome.

So for those of you who have the DVD, how would you compare it with the others in a list? Would it be below/above L@B, CiM, LSFNY? etc.

I would get it, it's quite above CiM (almost everything is, actually). Bucharest's setlist is better than LAB, but nowhere as good as LSFNY. Plus, there's a lot of awesome bonus content in the second DVD!

Sketchy · August 03, 2011, 04:05:40 AM

Quote from: Metropolis Pt. II on July 31, 2011, 05:52:49 AM
I've been wondering if I should get the Bucharest DVD for the longest time, but I haven't gotten it since JLB apparently sounds somewhat poor. I also heard that the footage isn't the greatest quality and the camera isn't on Petrucci during a few of his solos. (I heard in general that the cinematography is not that great.) However, like several have said, the setlist is awesome.

So for those of you who have the DVD, how would you compare it with the others in a list? Would it be below/above L@B, CiM, LSFNY? etc.

I do love that bootleg, but I have to admit, there are points of Bucharest where there is a certain amount of "There are keyboards going on... There are really good keyboards going on... JUST SHOW THE DAMN KEYBOARDS... Oh, you missed the awesome bit." Or at least I seem to remember it doing that.

Progmetty · August 03, 2011, 04:09:55 AM

Quote from: Sketchy on August 03, 2011, 04:05:40 AM
I do love that bootleg, but I have to admit, there are points of Bucharest where there is a certain amount of "There are keyboards going on... There are really good keyboards going on... JUST SHOW THE DAMN KEYBOARDS... Oh, you missed the awesome bit." Or at least I seem to remember it doing that.

Defiantly that, it's because it was shot by Romanian TV station so they didn't really know what to show and when.
But I do appreciate this DVD for having the only other pro-shot of Fatal Tragedy than LSFNY and the only other pro-shot of Glass Prison than the Megadeth DVD.

Ben_Jamin · August 03, 2011, 12:25:31 PM

JR's keyboard solo is amazing. Shame he doesnt do them like this anymore. JLB is lol worthy on Take The Time, my god that was sad and awful.

SystematicThought · August 03, 2011, 12:27:27 PM

Is the Bucharest DVD the one where JLB falls down during The Killing Hand?

chrisbDTM · August 03, 2011, 12:28:03 PM

Quote from: SystematicThought on August 03, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
Is the Bucharest DVD the one where JLB falls down during The Killing Hand?

correct

El Barto · August 03, 2011, 09:45:17 PM

It's the DVD I watch most often, by far. JLB sounds about like normal, AFAICT. I can't stand TtT, so I never watch it anyway. LtL is problematic, but he knows what he can do and doesn't train-wreck all over it. The biggest issue is what Metty said. The Romanian director was just showing what looked interesting, rather than zooming in on every solo or break. Really, that doesn't bother me too much either. We've kind of gotten a bit spoiled with the slicker production, IMO. Plus, that actually means significantly more screen time for JMX. Beyond those things, awesome setlist. Good crowd. Good show. Excellent bonus content. I like it quite a bit better than any of the others.

FlyingBIZKIT · August 03, 2011, 09:47:21 PM

Quote from: chrisbDTM on August 03, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on August 03, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
Is the Bucharest DVD the one where JLB falls down during The Killing Hand?

correct

Lo!

m0hawk · August 03, 2011, 10:14:56 PM

Where can one access this bootleg? Was it one of those legal "for fans" thingos?

Banny · August 03, 2011, 10:59:21 PM

Quote from: m0hawk on August 03, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Where can one access this bootleg? Was it one of those legal "for fans" thingos?

https://ytsejamrecords.com/

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 30, 2011, 09:55:41 AM
Probably the best setlist for any DT DVD out there. Appreciate this fantastic bootleg.

QFT. Love this set from top to bottom. Plus Lines In The Sand 2002 is

This is one tour they made the mistake of not recording. Instead they wasted their time on the SC tour.

Victor Alexandrov · August 04, 2011, 03:42:28 AM

Quote from: wasteland on July 31, 2011, 06:23:03 AM
Plus, there's a lot of awesome bonus content in the second DVD!

The Bulgarian TV show in the bonus DVD features subtitles written by yours truly.

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