New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed

[wkiml]

Guys!


www.dreamtheater.net

What?  It looks the same to me.

same here

[Nic35]

You're right.

DRUM!: Any new songs that were especially difficult?
Mangini: The one where I put the most amount of psychotic, two-things-at-the-same-time type of drumming would be track six [still unnamed as of press time]. While multi time signature shifts were going on, I was playing in a time signature that was completely different from those with one limb on one side of my body. And I was really hitting the drums. I'm very proud of it, but they liked it musically. I wouldn't do it just to throw it in. I didn't do it for that reason. I did it because I had a mathematical joy out of it. Oh, my gosh, it would be amazing to play in 7/16 here, but yet it's changing time signatures 18 times or something.

[TheKillingHand]

They might have changed the track order since then though

[FretMuppet]

They might have changed the track order since then though

[FretMuppet]

I think Petrucci was spending a bit too much time on WoW... Its the first thing that came to mind when I read track 5

[Nic35]

They might have changed the track order since then though

That's what I think too. The Shaman's Trance has to be a crazy song. Nothing else can fit this title.

[Ben_Jamin]

Track 6 is the 6th song they tracked.

[Jaffa]

I dunno.  For some reason, when I think of The Shaman's Trance, I'm instantly reminded of a sound similar to Godsmack's Voodoo.  Except, you know, DTier.

[ML]

I really hope that they'd use a real artist this time, so no Photoshop pieces with cut and past of free pics. Everyone with at least some eye and extra time can make good things with that toy, but I'd prefer a real oil-painting.

[Elaitch]

"This is the Life"?

... what if they made an Amy Macdonald cover?

Anyway, the song titles didn't come off as very DT-y for me, but I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.

[jonny108]

I thought we were supposed to be getting more info this morning? 

[Global Laziness]

Anyway, the song titles didn't come off as very DT-y for me

This.

I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.

This makes absolutely zero sense. Portnoy's lyrics have almost always been personal whereas Petrucci's lyrics have been "fantasy-ish" in the past.

[Dream Team]

Track 6 is the 6th song they tracked.

Exactly, which has nothing to do with the order they appear in on the album.

[OsMosis2259]

What if it actually is TOMORROW (Thursday) and not this morning?

The album and song titles were announced at around 12 AM (Wednesday, today)

[jonny108]

Ahh well there ya go

[ZirconBlue]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'

Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.

What's "awful" about Erotomania?

Seriously?

Yes.  I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one.  It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.

It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.

Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.

[theusualmadness]

What if it actually is TOMORROW (Thursday) and not this morning?

The album and song titles were announced at around 12 AM (Wednesday, today)

Dreamtheater.net says it was added on 6-7-2011

[JPX]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'

Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.

What's "awful" about Erotomania?

Seriously?

Yes.  I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one.  It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.

It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.

Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.

I know what it means and I have a general dislike for the term/word as a DT song or not.

Remember here we're taking song names OUT OF CONTEXT because we're comparing them the new songs just released which are also OUT OF CONTEXT.

My opinion is that I don't like the song title "Erotomania" so deal with it.

[Elaitch]

I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.

This makes absolutely zero sense. Portnoy's lyrics have almost always been personal whereas Petrucci's lyrics have been "fantasy-ish" in the past.

That's true... then maybe it's because Petrucci decided to step away from the fantasy-like lyrics (i.e. in a "new direction"), along with the fact that Myung wrote some of them, or something.

[Global Laziness]

I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.

This makes absolutely zero sense. Portnoy's lyrics have almost always been personal whereas Petrucci's lyrics have been "fantasy-ish" in the past.

That's true... then maybe it's because Petrucci decided to step away from the fantasy-like lyrics (i.e. in a "new direction"), along with the fact that Myung wrote some of them, or something.

Who's to say he stepped away from fantasy lyrics? Based on the titles, I could see a lot of these songs being tied into fantasy in some way.

[ricky]

could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving? in reality, we don't know, but most like it's a reference to the entire process that his leaving entailed. moving on, the search for a new drummer, selecting mangini, finding the new chemistry, etc. - i honestly dont think the ADCOE is only "about portnoy leaving."

also, i would like to be one of the few that actually defend the new title of the album. a bit predictable, perhaps, but it's a direct allusion as to how much the guys have had to go through this past year. we all knew that obviously that will be reflected in their music, and i for one sort of appreciate the openness of the title, despite not really liking it aesthetically. 

[ZirconBlue]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'

Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.

What's "awful" about Erotomania?

Seriously?

Yes.  I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one.  It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.

It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.

Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.

I know what it means .

Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?

My opinion is that I don't like the song title "Erotomania" so deal with it.

I don't really care whether you like it or not, but if you're unable to articulate a basis for that dislike, then I think your initial "Seriously?" response to me would seem to have been inappropriate. 

[TL]

could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving?

No one has really been talking about that for a few pages now chief.

On another note, 'The Shaman's Trance' for some reason makes me think of a musical style somewhere between LTE and FII. Something very vibey.

[Super Dude]

I could care less about the theme in relation to the song title - which is what we are talking about here.

Two separate things dude.

what? the song title should reflect the theme...unless i'm on crack.

Let's be honest here, you totally are on crack.

(For the record I'm just joking, I don't mean any offense. )

[Jaffa]

Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?

https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/erotomania "abnormally strong or persistent sexual desire."

Not saying I associate the song with porn, but the definition of the word itself is pretty easily connected to porn.

[Elaitch]

could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving? in reality, we don't know, but most like it's a reference to the entire process that his leaving entailed. moving on, the search for a new drummer, selecting mangini, finding the new chemistry, etc. - i honestly dont think the ADCOE is only "about portnoy leaving."

You just implied that it is... albeit not explicitly. It is obvously, in part, a reference to Portnoy leaving, but not a direct one. Still, that doesn't make it less of a reference, does it?

[tgstk2]

Did anyone see this message on the MP board?

I thought it was funny...

A Dramatic Turn of Events  = DT Eleven

[Super Dude]

Did anyone see this message on the MP board?

I thought it was funny...

A Dramatic Turn of Events  = DT Eleven

Whoa.

[YtseJamittaja]

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29

Is this the news or something else?

What becomes the tracklisting (what I noticed not until now) I am VERY surpised, I thought they invent complex and long song names but what are these "This is The Life" and "Outcry"? I have no idea what to expect from this album  

Sounds little bit that DT returns to its roots...

[Aniland]

JPX, cool your jets. "Erotomania" is a terrific title. Let's move on.

A DRAMAAATICCCCCC... TURN OF EVENTS

[JPX]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'

Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.

What's "awful" about Erotomania?

Seriously?

Yes.  I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one.  It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.

It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.

Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.

I know what it means .

Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?

My opinion is that I don't like the song title "Erotomania" so deal with it.

I don't really care whether you like it or not, but if you're unable to articulate a basis for that dislike, then I think your initial "Seriously?" response to me would seem to have been inappropriate. 

- Regardless of what it means, it still sounds like the title of a cheap porno flick, does it not?

- And I'll give it to you on my seriously comment although I actually didn't mean it sarcastically. I guess I thought more people would think it's a dumb song name. But hey, I'm fine with being in the minority on that one.

[Zook]

I really hope that they'd use a real artist this time, so no Photoshop pieces with cut and past of free pics. Everyone with at least some eye and extra time can make good things with that toy, but I'd prefer a real oil-painting.

[Jaffa]

Zook, I love you.

[tgstk2]

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29

Is this the news or something else?

What becomes the tracklisting (what I noticed not until now) I am VERY surpised, I thought they invent complex and long song names but what are these "This is The Life" and "Outcry"? I have no idea what to expect from this album  

Sounds little bit that DT returns to its roots...

where wher you the last 11 pages ?? :-)
yes this is the news....
to it's roots well that does sound promising!! if it's the sounds and the song structure..than AMEN to that!! i love DT's old structure better than it has been for the lsat decade or so....

[ricky]

could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving? in reality, we don't know, but most like it's a reference to the entire process that his leaving entailed. moving on, the search for a new drummer, selecting mangini, finding the new chemistry, etc. - i honestly dont think the ADCOE is only "about portnoy leaving."

You just implied that it is... albeit not explicitly.

no i didn't. check it -

The thing that worries me the most about the title is the fact that it makes me fear that they are going to allude to Portnoy's departure in a very cheesy way.  In fact, many of the track titles suggest that as well.

I think for some it's because it has MP written all over it and it's definately not something you'd expect

If it weren't for the obvious reference to Portnoy leaving there'd probably be more "oh, ok" reactions.

Why don't people like the title?

2. I was personally hoping DT11 wouldn't be drenched in MP references, and it seems to me that the title indicates it will be.

This just seems to me to be milking the fact that Mike left more.

i can keep going if you want me to.