Mike Mangini and Elements of Persuasion

gmillerdrake · March 30, 2011, 11:38:16 AM

Quote from: pain of occupation on March 30, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
i'm surprised how many people on this board aren't very familiar with his work. we all own the discs he's done with vai and have spun em 666+ times, haven't we?

between that AND his work with james...

Actually compared to alot of "you" guys I am pretty much a music 'lightweight'. I don't buy alot of music and pretty much just stick with my same old same old. Yes it is very boring but I have been trying as of late to broaden my horizons and actually have been getting better at 'trying' out different music/bands etc. with the advent of technologies like 'Pandora' and what not...but still am very much an outsider when it comes to knowing about some of these bands/musicians that most of you seem to know alot about.

Groundhog · March 30, 2011, 11:50:25 AM

I love Mangini on Vai, Extreme and on James' records. They'd be great with him. Though I'd prefer to have Minneman as the new drummer. I feel that Mangini would be the safe choice as far as his style goes, but I'd expect Minneman to bring something more different to the table. He would be more exciting choice. But if it ends up being Mangini I'll be happy.

Tomislav95 · March 30, 2011, 12:02:02 PM

Hope that is he a new drummer

pain of occupation · March 30, 2011, 02:38:53 PM

gmillerdrake, youre probly a young pup with lots of time to get into more artists. maybe i was forgetting how ancient i am.

anywayz, mangini's fine by me, but i still woulda preferred marco or lang.

gmillerdrake · March 30, 2011, 02:46:13 PM

Quote from: pain of occupation on March 30, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
gmillerdrake, youre probly a young pup with lots of time to get into more artists. maybe i was forgetting how ancient i am.

anywayz, mangini's fine by me, but i still woulda preferred marco or lang.

Ha! I'm not such a young pup anymore, 35, but I still feel young. The issue/problem I have actually affects my life in multiple avenues and scenarios. I get comfortable with things the way they are and just stick with it. Not that I'm a complete bore but it takes me a bit to warm up to change. The cool thing is the forum and over at MP's place A LOT of you guys throw out A LOT of bands to check out so that is helpful. I like a couple bands I've heard on Pandora and looked up on 'YouTube' but haven't sought out or bought their music yet.

pogoowner · March 30, 2011, 05:30:26 PM

Quote from: pain of occupation on March 30, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
i'm surprised how many people on this board aren't very familiar with his work. we all own the discs he's done with vai and have spun em 666+ times, haven't we?

Umm... no, actually.

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between that AND his work with james...

But I do have all his work with JLB.

pain of occupation · March 31, 2011, 12:15:27 AM

The cool thing is the forum and over at MP’s place A LOT of you guys throw out A LOT of bands to check out so that is helpful. I like a couple bands I’ve heard on Pandora and looked up on ‘YouTube’ but haven’t sought out or bought their music yet.
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DTforums are the best for learnin bout undiscovered music. 10 years back, the old .net forum helped expose me to all sorts of new music and kinda shaped where my interests went.

Vesper · March 31, 2011, 05:46:28 AM

Just remembered that Neil Peart is also very cold and technical in his drumming, and he is indeed a great drummer. If its Mangini, I'm perfectly fine with him.

MemoryScenes · March 31, 2011, 05:22:48 PM

I just wanted to chime in and say that EoP is not just a straight ahead metal album as some have suggested. Listening to the album, I really like the almost industrial, electronic feel of songs like Alone, In Too Deep. I think a great example of Mangini's drumming is the last track of Mullmuzzler 2, Tell Me.

Perpetual Change · March 31, 2011, 05:54:31 PM

Quote from: rumborak on March 30, 2011, 09:11:18 AM
It varies on the album, but there's definitely several songs where he plays so clinically on-time and with repeatable velocity that it sounds like a drum machine.

I'm personally just concerned that with Mangini they would have invited yet another person who has issues with playing natural. I mean, we get the idea, DT can play stuff to a level of perfection that not many other bands can play. I think DT would do well stepping back from that aspect a bit.

rumborak

Well, not sure if you missed it, but awhile back someone mentioned that for EoP he has literally 2 days to learn, write, and record all his parts. And, you know, for as important JLB's solo project is, I wouldn't be surprised if MM didn't feel super inclined to be the best drummer he could be on that record.

ReaPsTA · March 31, 2011, 06:41:21 PM

Quote from: Perpetual Change on March 31, 2011, 05:54:31 PM
Well, not sure if you missed it, but awhile back someone mentioned that for EoP he has literally 2 days to learn, write, and record all his parts. And, you know, for as important JLB's solo project is, I wouldn't be surprised if MM didn't feel super inclined to be the best drummer he could be on that record.

Wait, WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! He did all that in two days?!?!?!?!?!?!

Mangini is clearly the best drummer alive. Glad DT got him.

dongringo · March 31, 2011, 06:56:32 PM

If in fact that's true, it is simply astonishing. I've been watching lots of footage of him and imho he is clearly one of the best drummers alive. Awesome personality too. I can see why they (might have) picked him.

mittinagus · April 01, 2011, 02:05:07 PM

Quote from: rumborak on March 30, 2011, 08:51:54 AM
Quote from: Bertielee on March 30, 2011, 06:12:01 AM
Quote from: emtee on March 30, 2011, 05:59:17 AM
He sounds like a drum machine on EOP.

That is something he's been reproached for. He's really developed the technical side of his drumming and it can sound a little "clinical" at times.

B.Lee

I just started listening to EOP, and yeah, I really get the same impression. And frankly, that impression has somewhat surfaced in almost all recordings I've heard of him. He approaches drumming from a very mechanical angle.

rumborak

It is a drum machine, it's Mike "The Drum Machine" Mangini!...

Tin

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