Mike just posted this on Facebook, saying that he is very sad

Started by Aniland, October 29, 2010, 04:48:16 PM

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Aniland



I thought he was taking an internet break.

EDIT: Not saying that he is very sad, rather, making a sad face.

Rafael Guerra

Damn, you are fast lol, he literally posted less than a minute ago!
Yeah, I really wanna read that magazine.

emindead

He is taking a break from his website and from certain comments regarding DT.

He still updates his Twitter and his FB status -until now- commenting on his A7X tour. He's just promoting the new Classic Rock Magazine featuring all of what happened.

I, for one, :corn

And since I can't see that picture from your post, I'll re-post it from a better and friendlier server:



Quote from:  Mike Portnoy
This is one magazine cover I never thought I'd see... :(
This is the new issue of Classic Rock presents Prog (from the UK) - the only magazine with exclusive interviews from all of us....
(please keep this thread clean... and pick up the magazine to try and UNDERSTAND the situation a little bit more)

wolfking

"This is not rocket science, I think we can handle it." - JR


:lol  That's fucking gold.

We don't care anymore Mike.

TAC

This is what he actually tweeted/said:

This is one magazine cover I never thought I'd see... : (
This is the new issue of Classic Rock presents Prog (from the UK) - the only magazine with exclusive interviews from all of us....
(please keep this thread clean... and pick up the magazine to try and UNDERSTAND the situation a little bit more)
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

zxlkho

Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
"This is not rocket science, I think we can handle it." - JR


:lol  That's fucking gold.

We don't care anymore Mike.
That quote was completely taken out of context.

Adami

Quote from: zxlkho on October 29, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
"This is not rocket science, I think we can handle it." - JR


:lol  That's fucking gold.

We don't care anymore Mike.
That quote was completely taken out of context.

Was it less funny and amazing in the original context?
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Portrucci

Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
"This is not rocket science, I think we can handle it." - JR


:lol  That's fucking gold.

We don't care anymore Mike.
This, honestly.

emindead


rumborak

I have to admit, i really stopped caring by now about MP's antics. He had a choice, he made it, now shut up and move on.

rumborak

wolfking

Quote from: Adami on October 29, 2010, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: zxlkho on October 29, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
"This is not rocket science, I think we can handle it." - JR


:lol  That's fucking gold.

We don't care anymore Mike.
That quote was completely taken out of context.

Was it less funny and amazing in the original context?

Ice9ine

Quote from: rumborak on October 29, 2010, 05:10:34 PM
I have to admit, i really stopped caring by now about MP's antics. He had a choice, he made it, now shut up and move on.

rumborak

Agree. Looks like you backed the wrong horse Mike. You are no longer a member of Dream Theater. Accept it and move on. I for one are more excited and interested about their new member than dwelling on Mike Portnoys 'I am' sob stories.

bosk1

Um, why are so many people getting upitty about Mike having to move on just because a magazine interviewed him? 

TAC

Quote from: bösk1 on October 29, 2010, 05:28:05 PM
Um, why are so many people getting upitty about Mike having to move on just because a magazine interviewed him? 
Yeah, really!
Sounds like the magazine will be very balanced. If MP recommends it, those who are expecting any of the band to slam him, I think will be disappointed. And he still has a right to be sad..
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

IdoSC

I just don't like Portnoy's quote. It was your choice to leave. You asked them to completely stop working at their main job place for 1-2 years. How can you be so "devastated" about that.

Adami

Quote from: IdoSC on October 29, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
I just don't like Portnoy's quote. It was your choice to leave. You asked them to completely stop working at their main job place for 1-2 years. How can you be so "devastated" about that.

Quite easily. Emotions aren't the same as logic.

I dumped my ex-fiance and don't regret it. But I was still really upset when she moved on. Why? Because emotions aren't logical.
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TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Adami

Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
Why does it have to be mutually exlusive?

Obviously it has to be exclusive, or else what's the point?
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blackngold29

I have no problem with the article, obviously it's huge news in the prog world. Sure it seems a little odd that MP continues to promote this stuff, but if he doesn't who will? JR and JP tweet and stuff, but haven't said much about DT for a while. And Roadrunner always takes a week to post this stuff.

Ben_Jamin

Cool. He's promoting a magazine that has all the answers to make you whiners be quiet

PetFish

I've stayed out of all of these kinds of threads, pretty proud of myself for that actually, but I'd like to say something here.

The more I think about it lately the more selfish I feel MP is being... not towards the fans but towards the other guys in DT.  Everyone has off nights or periods but it's the mark of a professional to fight through those times.  You don't skip a live gig cuz you're not feeling well or feeling like you can perform 100%... you suck it up and focus to go out there and do your job.  You have to be able to overcome adversity and deliver.

I compare MP's scenario like this:  what if Peyton Manning wanted to take a season off saying he doesn't feel like he can give 100%?  Even 50% is better than most other quarterbacks.  But, ok, so Peyton takes a year off and some other guy plays.  Would it be fair for him to be upset and hurt if the team played on?  Absolutely not.  Essentially what MP wanted would be if Peyton took the year off but also insisted that the entire Colts team not play at all until he's ready.

I'm sure MP and every other guy in DT, or any other band or sports team for that matter, has played through colds/flus/aches/pains/etc numerous times.  It's what you're supposed to do. It's your job.  If I call in sick to work they don't shut down the entire place until I'm healthy again.  Someone else takes my shift but I don't complain that they're carrying on without me, right?

Anyway, I hope what I'm trying to convey here makes sense.  Bottom line is that MP should have fought through it and overcome whatever it is he's going through at the very least to honour the other guys in the band and certainly not be upset that they wanted to continue w/o him as they keep getting bigger with every album and taking a break at this point would derail that train.

Ugh, lots of words.  :)

faizoff

I understand what you're trying to say Petfish but I think there are some glaring differences when you compare Peyton Manning and MP. Peyton didn't start the Colts franchise and ultimately is a hired gun for the team. MP on the other hand is a founding member and has certain privileges over someone who's a hired gun.

Whatever reasons MP left DT for will always be debatable from differing point of views. You suggesting MP man up and continue doing what he did to please you without knowing every single thing that went on is a big statement.

I'm not bickering here just stating things. I also am not happy that he left DT but I'm not in his shoes nor do I know EXACTLY what went on behind the scenes. I'm also not in agreement with how certain things are being handled on his site or by him, etc.. but ultimately it doesn't matter what I think. I've followed the man and the band he started for almost 20 yrs and am not going to stop now.

/end of soap.

Devour Feculence!

Stoneyman

The peculiar thing is that Mike avoids actually saying "I LEFT DT."  He totally deflects attention to HIS CHOICE by saying that they "Forced Me" or that "I Had No Choice."  THEY, THEY, THEY!!!!

He probably endorses this magazine article because it allows him once again to highlight how much he wanted a break AND THOSE MEAN OTHER GUYS wanted to keep going.  He will likely use more language focusing on the guys moving on without him than his CHOOSING (which is what HE did LOL!) to leave DT.

MP and JP have been my favorites prog artists period over the years, but MP keeps making this break worse.

I'll save my money on this mag.  MP left DT. 

blackngold29

I can understand the choice part, he seems to be working around that. If he's all "no regrets" than why the :(  ??

lithium112

Man, what the hell is wrong with all of you guys?

Quote from: rumborak on October 29, 2010, 05:10:34 PM
I have to admit, i really stopped caring by now about MP's antics. He had a choice, he made it, now shut up and move on.
What part does he need to shut up about? Posting a magazine article about himself? That out-of-context quote on the front cover? Saying that an album cover announcing the split of a band that he founded 25 years ago was something he never though he'd see? That sad face maybe???

Have you ever split up from your band that you founded in 1985 dude? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 'no'. So then I'm also accurate in saying that you have no idea what that feels like. So maybe you should go ahead and cut the guy some slack. It's been less than two months since the separation and clearly the topic is still fresh in his mind.

See, what you guys seem to be ignoring is that this is the kind of guy Mike is. Over the course of his career he's always opened himself up and shared and gave SO MUCH to all the DT fans. But now, all of a sudden when he's talking about stuff that you don't want to hear you're up in arms over it saying that he should just "move on"? The man is clearly in a lot of emotional distress and all of his past fans seem to have forgotten just how shitty he must be feeling right now. Yeah it was his choice to leave, but his FIRST choice was NOT to leave and to take a break for a while - which he believed he was doing for the sake of DT and maintaining the creativity and passion that he felt the band and the fans deserved to witness.

Quote from: PetFish on October 29, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
I compare MP's scenario like this:  what if Peyton Manning wanted to take a season off ...

What is this, I don't even...

DTF, I am disappoint.

Perpetual Change

I'm also a little baffled. MP's allowed to be sad. I only was mad in the past because he wasn't even taking responsibility for leaving.

skydivingninja

Quote from: Perpetual Change on October 29, 2010, 08:41:22 PM
MP's allowed to be sad. I only was mad in the past because he wasn't even taking responsibility for leaving.

This is kinda what I'm feeling.  What mostly bothers me about MP is the pity party he seems to be throwing for himself, while also talking about how much fun he's having with A7X.  I understand his reasons for leaving and I respect them (not the touring with A7X part, the taking a break part), but if he left, he needs to prepare for a new drummer and be ready to move on soon and not wallow in his own sadness to us.

lithium112

Quote from: skydivingninja on October 29, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
This is kinda what I'm feeling.  What mostly bothers me about MP is the pity party he seems to be throwing for himself, while also talking about how much fun he's having with A7X.  I understand his reasons for leaving and I respect them (not the touring with A7X part, the taking a break part), but if he left, he needs to prepare for a new drummer and be ready to move on soon and not wallow in his own sadness to us.
You keep talking as if MP owes you something. As if he owes it to your delicate sensibilities to not write about his feelings on twitter or facebook. Here's an idea though - why don't you just stop reading his tweets? You've clearly moved on from MP, so that should be no problem. It's win-win.

glaurung

Quote from: lithium112 on October 29, 2010, 09:01:15 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 29, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
This is kinda what I'm feeling.  What mostly bothers me about MP is the pity party he seems to be throwing for himself, while also talking about how much fun he's having with A7X.  I understand his reasons for leaving and I respect them (not the touring with A7X part, the taking a break part), but if he left, he needs to prepare for a new drummer and be ready to move on soon and not wallow in his own sadness to us.
You keep talking as if MP owes you something. As if he owes it to your delicate sensibilities to not write about his feelings on twitter or facebook. Here's an idea though - why don't you just stop reading his tweets? You've clearly moved on from MP, so that should be no problem. It's win-win.

What? I didn't get that from his post at all.

lithium112

Quote from: glaurung on October 29, 2010, 09:05:57 PM
What? I didn't get that from his post at all.
I'm talking about the "he needs to prepare for a new drummer and be ready to move on soon and not wallow in his own sadness to us." part. He doesn't need to do anything. And he certainly doesn't need to do anything for "us". When he makes posts talking about the split with DT he's obviously directing it to the people who still give a damn about the contributions he's made to all our happiness over the past 25 years.

Ħ

They've got that magazine at my school bookstore.  I'll check it out tomorrow and (possibly) post a transcription.

Vivace

This is why I'm pretty convinced more went down than we will ever know and I think it mostly hinges on A7X. Mere speculation though.

SnakeEyes

The thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that MP puts on the nice guy act and talks about how he loves the other guys, etc...... then he goes on to imply that this whole thing is somehow their fault, as if they caused the situation because, "they" didn't want to sit around and wait for two years while Portnoy went to play in a really famous band to further HIS career.  That really bothers me. 

Super Dude

Quote from: SnakeEyes on October 29, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
The thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that MP puts on the nice guy act and talks about how he loves the other guys, etc...... then he goes on to imply that this whole thing is somehow their fault, as if they caused the situation because, "they" didn't want to sit around and wait for two years while Portnoy went to play in a really famous band to further HIS career.  That really bothers me. 

Maybe a little harsh, but that last part is on the money.
:superdude:

chrisbDTM