There's a part similar to Caught in a Web in Erotomania

[erik16]

It's somewhere around 3:30 I believe, the keys and the drumming sound the same as in the chorus of Caught in a Web. Anyone else has noticed before?

[phentalmyst]

didnt notice this myself, but i'm not surprised. there's a ton of revisited themes by design throughout Awake

[2Timer]

Yeah, I noticed that quite a long time ago. The part right before echoes The Silent Man a bit. I love when they do that sort of stuff, like in Overture 1928 there's little bits of some of the other songs from the album mixed into it. I wish they would go back to doing stuff like that. I'm not saying the old cliche 'I want another Awake', but that was a cool thing they used to do that I wish they'd revisit.

[RoeDent]

Erotomania is the first part of 'A Mind Beside Itself' so it contains references to the other two songs, Voices and The Silent Man. Then there's the part that is very similar to Caught in a Web. And not forgetting the mid-section of 'The Mirror' returning at the end of 'Lie'.

I love all the references in SFAM. They also refer many times back to Metropolis Pt. 1 throughout the album.

[?]

I've noticed the CIAW reference too. It sounds like the chorus, although it's not exactly the same melody. It took me quite long to realize that the guitar solo around 3.30 has the same melody as TSM chorus. They should make reprises on the next album!

[MykeHavoc]

Although Awake isn't a concept record per say, musical foreshadows and throwbacks are weaved throughout the entirety of the album. I imagine those are the neo-classical elements at influence.

[Amoniz]

As mentioned by others, Awake songs share some elements & musical themes;
-The Silent Man & Erotomania (-> 3:43) share the same chord progression (right before JP's acoustic solo in SM: -> 1:53)
-The keyboard sound beneath "Pain inside coming outside" in 6:00 is somehow similar to the keyboard beneath the "you don't know me anymore" calm section in Scarred, only played faster/slowly.
-The choruses of CIAW & Voices somehow resemble eachother.
-Scarred & SDV both have outros in the same fashion. (Different chords though)
-Voices: from 4:50 you can hear the main riff of Erotomania played underneath the movie sample, played with synth sounds. (you need to turn up the volume a bit    )

[Mladen]

Yeah, I noticed that CIAW reference a long time ago, and I think it sounds awesome. 

[PetFish]

I think we're all so familiar with every piece of music DT has made we hear similarities even when there really aren't any.  Being a guitarist I know every lick JP has ever done and I'll often hear little snippets recycled over and over but it may only be a quick reference of a bigger solo but that tiny snapshot makes the entire solo sound familiar.  A casual DT fan probably won't be able to pick out similarities but cuz we've listened to them for so long it's bound to happen to us.

I don't know if I'm saying it properly but I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across.

[Ben_Jamin]

Awake is like 8vm. They're both thematic albums, in which certain themes get reprised in songs. CIAW has the spider reference, and Voices uses the spider.

[darkshade]

i agree that the next album should contain some reprises and themes throughout the album, though theyve technically been doing it the entire time with the Twelve Step Suite. an album filled with something of an overture would be cool, though i think the band should think outside the box with it, similar to how Octavarium wasnt a 'concept' album, per se, but there were many themes brought out (mostly Octavarium themes, all leading up to that massively epic track)

i feel like they could do this, since they have no more loose ends in their music (12Step, meta-album, etc...)

unless they keep on with the Octavarium full circle theme that I've sensed in SC and BC&SL - The number of songs decreasing one from 8 since 8V (SC- 7, BC&SL - 6), ITPOE book-ending the album, a part from Octavarium during The Count of Tuscany, etc... this is the only thing we can definitely count on for DT11 (unless they start completely fresh)

i wonder if the guys in DT will or have given a listen to their entire canon lately? being they have 10 albums, which is quite a landmark, the world of Dream Theater is immense at this point, i wonder if someone like JP (or JR) will take note of certain things and kind of sum up what theyve done and take the music forward (NOT regressive!), with new inspiration, influences, and a fresh start. I think thats all the band kinda needs right now, a fresh start.

[ZirconBlue]

The "Space Dye Vest" melody also appears in "The Mirror".  It's one of the things I really like about Awake, but it's difficult to do when you write and record simultaneously. 

[Sixtease]

a part from Octavarium during The Count of Tuscany

Wha... what??? Where? I want to know.

[MajorMatt]

Prehaps reffering to the tweeting birds at the end?

[Amoniz]

Prehaps reffering to the tweeting birds at the end?

Or the tweeting birds in the beginning & at the end of "Disappear" ?

[MykeHavoc]

Wanna hear something weird? Maybe it's just me, but four seconds in Erotomania (start at 4:32) reminds me of 1:28 mark of TTTSTA.

[Bargey]

As mentioned by others, Awake songs share some elements & musical themes;
-The Silent Man & Erotomania (-> 3:43) share the same chord progression (right before JP's acoustic solo in SM: -> 1:53)
-The keyboard sound beneath "Pain inside coming outside" in 6:00 is somehow similar to the keyboard beneath the "you don't know me anymore" calm section in Scarred, only played faster/slowly.
-The choruses of CIAW & Voices somehow resemble eachother.
-Scarred & SDV both have outros in the same fashion. (Different chords though)
-Voices: from 4:50 you can hear the main riff of Erotomania played underneath the movie sample, played with synth sounds. (you need to turn up the volume a bit    )

Can't believe you listed all those and didn't say anything about the keyboard part in The Mirror (4:32 approx) that is straight outta Space-Dye Vest (or vice versa).

[Amoniz]

As mentioned by others, Awake songs share some elements & musical themes;
-The Silent Man & Erotomania (-> 3:43) share the same chord progression (right before JP's acoustic solo in SM: -> 1:53)
-The keyboard sound beneath "Pain inside coming outside" in 6:00 is somehow similar to the keyboard beneath the "you don't know me anymore" calm section in Scarred, only played faster/slowly.
-The choruses of CIAW & Voices somehow resemble eachother.
-Scarred & SDV both have outros in the same fashion. (Different chords though)
-Voices: from 4:50 you can hear the main riff of Erotomania played underneath the movie sample, played with synth sounds. (you need to turn up the volume a bit    )

Can't believe you listed all those and didn't say anything about the keyboard part in The Mirror (4:32 approx) that is straight outta Space-Dye Vest (or vice versa).

Probably because the one in Space-dye vest & The Mirror is pretty well known among the fans.

[John94]

Is it just me or are parts of Erotomania and A Change of Seasons similar?

[pmahoney1337]

Is it just me or are parts of Erotomania and A Change of Seasons similar?

No it is not just you. A similiar part to the intro of Erotomania is played at 2:47 in A Change of Seasons. They are a little bit different but I'm sure it was intended to sound like Erotomania.

[darkshade]

a part from Octavarium during The Count of Tuscany

Wha... what??? Where? I want to know.

TCOT - when the guitar solo comes in before the spacey section, it's essentially the same lines as the Razor's Edge solo, but on top of different sets of chords

check it out, i never noticed till a while ago

[?]

Is it just me or are parts of Erotomania and A Change of Seasons similar?

No it is not just you. A similiar part to the intro of Erotomania is played at 2:47 in A Change of Seasons. They are a little bit different but I'm sure it was intended to sound like Erotomania.

The riff before the organ solo in The Darkest of Winters sounds like Erotomania too. Also, I don't know if this has been said already, but the main riff in A Rite of Passage is quite reminiscent of the melody that's in Misunderstood after the chorus.

[Ħ]

Is it just me or are parts of Erotomania and A Change of Seasons similar?

No it is not just you. A similiar part to the intro of Erotomania is played at 2:47 in A Change of Seasons. They are a little bit different but I'm sure it was intended to sound like Erotomania.

The riff before the organ solo in The Darkest of Winters sounds like Erotomania too. Also, I don't know if this has been said already, but the main riff in A Rite of Passage is quite reminiscent of the melody that's in Misunderstood after the chorus.

Sounds cool...timestamp?

[Amoniz]

Is it just me or are parts of Erotomania and A Change of Seasons similar?

No it is not just you. A similiar part to the intro of Erotomania is played at 2:47 in A Change of Seasons. They are a little bit different but I'm sure it was intended to sound like Erotomania.

The riff before the organ solo in The Darkest of Winters sounds like Erotomania too. Also, I don't know if this has been said already, but the main riff in A Rite of Passage is quite reminiscent of the melody that's in Misunderstood after the chorus.

Sounds cool...timestamp?

That's right, similar chromatic harmony descent. (Erotomania & ACOS)

Yeah, nice find -> Misunderstood: 4:07 on -

[m0hawk]

I always thought that the guitar solo in The Count of Tuscany was based off the opening melody in ANtR. Which would make sense, seeing as JP gave lyrics to both and his episode with the Count could be seen as another nightmarish event.

[Amoniz]

I always thought that the guitar solo in The Count of Tuscany was based off the opening melody in ANtR. Which would make sense, seeing as JP gave lyrics to both and his episode with the Count could be seen as another nightmarish event.

The one at the beginning? On top of the clean guitars?

[Ben_Jamin]

Think he's talking bout the one before the atmospheric part, right?

[Amoniz]

Think he's talking bout the one before the atmospheric part, right?

Oh right,
that one before the atmospheric part follows the same pattern of the dual harmonies before it.
It could resemble the main piano motiff of ANTR...

To be specific:
ANTR -> from 00:35
TCOT -> from 10:16
makes sense, although the guitar solo in TCOT develops through diminished intervals.