Dream Theater's 11th Album v. Play Nice

[Bombardana]

I wonder if the next album is when we finally see Myung's name removed from the writing credits? 

They're still presenting always the music as
Music by: Dream Theater
Lyrics by: *insert lyricist here*

In very few spots, the "music by" tag changes, like in Wither for example, where the music is entirely attributed to JP, or Vacant where the music is attributed to JM and JR. They're still Dream Theater, not "The Rudess, Portnoy and Petrucci experience".

It's really hard to tell, unfortunately

Yeah, that's another thing. It's undeniable that Myung has had less imput in recent DT music than in their older albums.

However, just because someone might prefer the older albums does not mean more Myung influence makes the album better.

[orcus116]

I disagree. He had some killer bass lines back in the day. Over time they seem to have gotten simpler and lost in the mix.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

I disagree. He had some killer bass lines back in the day. Over time they seem to have gotten simpler and lost in the mix.

Yeah that's how I see it. I mean, BCSL was a phenomenal album, even with the JR/JP/MP triangle, but it can't touch albums like Awake and Images & Words in terms of songwriting

[MetropolisxPt1]

My idea is they do a heavy "Train of Thought heavy"  album, with more vocals from James when he used to sing like on Take The Time. When was the last album you heard that style from James.

[contest_sanity]

My idea is they do a heavy "Train of Thought heavy"  album, with more vocals from James when he used to sing like on Take The Time. When was the last album you heard that style from James.

Those who would like an album more like TOT are in the minority here, I think.  I would love that, but I doubt it would happen. 

[emindead]

Can we stop the whole "______would like a word with you" thing? Please?

Can we stop the whole "can we stop this thing, please?" Please?

[contest_sanity]

Can we stop the whole "______would like a word with you" thing? Please?

Can we stop the whole "can we stop this thing, please?" Please?

Stopping the whole "let's stop this '______ would like a word with you' " thing would like to have a word with you.

My brain *splode.

[Perpetual Change]

Can we stop the whole "______would like a word with you" thing? Please?

Can we stop the whole "can we stop this thing, please?" Please?

No. Just no.

[Jamesman42]

Kevin Moore would like a word with you stopping his thing with the Count of Tuscany, please.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

My idea is they do a heavy "Train of Thought heavy"  album, with more vocals from James when he used to sing like on Take The Time. When was the last album you heard that style from James.

Absolutely not

[Nic35]

They could write an album with a general musical theme that would go throughout the entire album, in the vein of Neal Morse's One.

That'd be very cool.

[darkshade]

bring back Jerry Goodman from the last album and do some jazzier stuff. might at well grab bruce fowler or some other jazz horn player 

lol not saying they should go fusion, but adding a little more color with some chords or something would be cool (the band HAS said they enjoy jazz-fusion)

otherwise, less metal more prog and rock. maybe more grooves (like ToT, but still less metal)

OPEN THE NEW ALBUM WITH A SERIOUS BAD-ASS BASSLINE!

[AcidLameLTE]

DT should totally add more jazz in.

INTRO TO SCARRED ANYONE?!

[Darkes7]

Please no.

[AcidLameLTE]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

[antigoon]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

More jazz would be awesome; I really miss that flair from JP's older playing.

[Darkes7]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

I'm starting to think the legend about Nick permanently failing was misinterpreted and was actually about you.

But sorry, no, I don't see the need for jazz. As for Scarred intro, I just found out I don't remember what it sounds like. I remember everything else about the song. This is not a good sign.

[AcidLameLTE]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

I'm starting to think the legend about Nick permanently failing was misinterpreted and was actually about you.

A fan of irony by any chance?

[Darkes7]

What

[hefdaddy42]

The intro to Scarred is one of the most creative pieces of music DT has ever written.  If they wanted to infuse a little more of that in the future, I would be all in.

[AcidLameLTE]

What

Oh, nothing.

[tri.ad]

The intro to Scarred is one of the most creative pieces of music DT has ever written.  If they wanted to infuse a little more of that in the future, I would be all in.

I definitely agree. Atmospheric and groovy. I'd love to see them doing stuff like that again.

[darkshade]

i didnt say they should bust out into walking basslines and free-blow soloing from a sax or something, im just saying, them being so eclectic, take some hints from jazz to spice up the music a little more (hell it probably wouldnt even sound like jazz anyway, do Planet X sound like jazz? (aside from when they occasionally have an actual jazz part))

[orcus116]

It'd be great if they found some jazz roots because I think all of Petrucci's best solos are jazz based in terms of his playing style.

[Jamesman42]

They could write an album with a general musical theme that would go throughout the entire album, in the vein of Neal Morse's One.

That'd be very cool.

Yeah, they could call it Octavarium.

[toro]

They need to do an album with more than 7 tracks and insted do a 10+ album with short songs and a couple of 10+ minutes songs ala Awake.

[Adami]

They need to do an album with more than 7 tracks and insted do a 10+ album with short songs and a couple of 10+ minutes songs ala Awake.

I would love this, but it probably won't happen. I have a feeling they'll continue the trend of 5-6 10+ minute songs and 1-2, 6-8 minute songs.

[TL]

They could make a double album, with one disc having shorter songs, and the other having a few epics. Or maybe several shorter tracks and one epic per disc.
Regardless of how many songs or the length of their songs, I hope they get really experimental on the next album.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

I'm starting to think the legend about Nick permanently failing was misinterpreted and was actually about you.

But sorry, no, I don't see the need for jazz. As for Scarred intro, I just found out I don't remember what it sounds like. I remember everything else about the song. This is not a good sign.

Agreed. That is not a good sign.

[darkshade]

It's preferable to your "make it suck even more than Systematic Chaos" suggestion.

I'm starting to think the legend about Nick permanently failing was misinterpreted and was actually about you.

But sorry, no, I don't see the need for jazz. As for Scarred intro, I just found out I don't remember what it sounds like. I remember everything else about the song. This is not a good sign.

you must have bad memory...

[ariich]

DT should totally add more jazz in.

INTRO TO SCARRED ANYONE?!

The intro is completely awesome. Shame it goes pretty downhill after that.

[AcidLameLTE]

JUST LIKE SEX WITH YOU.

[ariich]

I was going to phrase it "after the first minute", which would have made your retort even better.

[robwebster]

DT should totally add more jazz in.

INTRO TO SCARRED ANYONE?!

The intro is completely awesome. Shame it goes pretty downhill after that.

I was going to say something along those lines but decided to save myself the headache.

You're a brave man.

[BRGM]

DT should totally add more jazz in.

INTRO TO SCARRED ANYONE?!

The intro is completely awesome. Shame it goes pretty downhill after that.

I was going to say something along those lines but decided to save myself the headache.

You're a brave man.

But I agree with him, that intro is freaking wonderfull, especially on CiM, but then they just decided to bring it down by writing a song that is DTs longest 9 mins ever!!! it SUCKS! :O my bottom 98 or w/e the number of song they've writtN