Author Topic: Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness (Read 7149 times)

wolfking · « **on:** January 19, 2010, 04:52:49 AM »

Anyone familiar with this piece of music? What do DT fans think of this?

This is simply a 1 hour long song. I gotta say, I picked this up not knowing anything about the band or musicians but simply for the novelty of a 60min song. This is one of the greatest pieces of goth/prog/doom metal ever.

This is a piece of art. One would think one song spanning 60 minutes would fail, but they would be wrong. This is in fact 1 song, it's not a Six Degrees or Pleasant Shade of Grey gimmick with 7 or 8 different songs stuck together to make 1 long track. The whole thing to me is incredible, a beautiful piece of work, one of a kind. It's amazing how it never gets boring. The first half an hour flies by, with amazing riff's, recurring themes, great melodies and fantastic instrumental sections.

The female vocal/sax duo at about 32:00 is incredible. It gives me chills and the mood really scares the living crap out of me, it's that haunting. An emotive, touching section. The builup to the incredible guitar solo is immense. A 2 minute solo at the 42:00 mark is filled with such feeling, some odd note selections strangely seems perfectly in place. The return to the theme at the 55:00 or so minute mark rounds this amazing piece of music off perfectly.

I recommend every music lover to at least give this a go, you might be surprised.

Portrucci · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2010, 04:58:12 AM »

Yep it's great. A must have for any Progressive Metal fan

TimmyHiggy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2010, 05:10:02 AM »

agreed!

Volk9 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2010, 11:49:57 AM »

Yeah, I really like it. While most people hate the section, I love the saxophone/female singing part about halfway in.

Crow · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:02:55 PM »

Amazing amazing song.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:06:43 PM »

I thought the first fifteen minutes were pretty meh, so I didn't bother listening to the rest.

Quote from: wolfking on January 19, 2010, 04:52:49 AM

This is in fact 1 song, it's not a Six Degrees or Pleasant Shade of Grey gimmick with 7 or 8 different songs stuck together to make 1 long track.

You are aware that SDOIT is one song, right? It was composed as a single song, but they decided to split it up on the album into tracks.

Arcaeus · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:08:17 PM »

Heavy hail of fail comin' from up above me here.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:09:32 PM »

Same here.

SoundscapeMN · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:50:32 PM »

great record. Admittedly, I need to listen to it and Godspeed's Skinny Fists album more, I just need to remember to.

Portrucci · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:52:09 PM »

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on January 19, 2010, 06:50:32 PM

great record. Admittedly, I need to listen to it and Godspeed's Skinny Fists album more, I just need to remember to.

If you like Skinny Fists, You should definitely check out there other album F#A# infinity and their EP Slow Riot for Zero Kanada. Both just as amazing

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:11:35 PM »

This song is really good.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:21:42 PM »

It's awesome. Though, I don't think I've heard a bad albumsong.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:39:30 PM »

I didn't listen to that particular song, but i've heard other songs by them. I really like what I heard, it's like a missing link for me that is

Portrucci · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:44:19 PM »

Everytime I look at the topic "Genre Confusion" I think of Green Carnation. Same number of letters and same starting letters

veronica · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2010, 03:04:49 AM »

It's a great song and a great album! It's kind of weird listening to it on LP, having to change sides AND LPs in "the middle" of a song is strange. (We do have it on cd as well).

Sintheros · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2010, 03:08:24 AM »

Odd, I just had this song come up on my itunes random playlist of awesome today. I love this song, because unlike every other super super long song I know of, it doesn't change drastically into movements. It's got its own sound. The bit from 33:00 to 37:00 with the female wailing can jump off a cliff, but the rest of the song is incredible.

TO MY NEW WORLD
MY BRAVE NEW WORLD
WHERE RIGHT IS WRONG
WHERE JUSTICE IS GONE

Gorille85 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2010, 04:42:00 AM »

Awesome song! I really like the intro with the noise and stuff, and then the song never seems to drag.

wolfking · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:41:52 AM »

Quote from: sonatafanica on January 19, 2010, 06:06:43 PM

I thought the first fifteen minutes were pretty meh, so I didn't bother listening to the rest.

Quote from: wolfking on January 19, 2010, 04:52:49 AM
This is in fact 1 song, it's not a Six Degrees or Pleasant Shade of Grey gimmick with 7 or 8 different songs stuck together to make 1 long track.

You are aware that SDOIT is one song, right? It was composed as a single song, but they decided to split it up on the album into tracks.

Well, I do understand that it stated that it is one song, but really, the sections are too different for it to in fact be one long song IMO. The band also play certain sections live proving that each section can be it's own tune. Same goes with Fates Warning's Shade of Grey. The different sections have different flavours, tones and colours, IMO never giving the feeling that I'm listening to one long track. Maybe you should sit through the entire hour of Green Carnation and you might see what I mean. There are too many recurring themes and melodies for it to be split up.

wolfking · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:49:02 AM »

Quote from: Volk9 on January 19, 2010, 11:49:57 AM

Yeah, I really like it. While most people hate the section, I love the saxophone/female singing part about halfway in.

Yeah, I'm learning to love it myself. The atmosphere and tension it builds is immense. I can easily see why it would get disliked, but for me, it's quite a pleasure to listen to, especially the way it builds after that into the guitar solo.

InTheNameOfGod · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2010, 06:38:26 AM »

Brilliant album/song.

Such a shame they split. GoC were one of my favourite bands.

Volk9 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:58:07 PM »

Quote from: InTheNameOfGod on January 22, 2010, 06:38:26 AM

Brilliant album/song.

Such a shame they split. GoC were one of my favourite bands.

I didnt know that

sonatafanica · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:12:34 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2010, 04:41:52 AM

Quote from: sonatafanica on January 19, 2010, 06:06:43 PM
I thought the first fifteen minutes were pretty meh, so I didn't bother listening to the rest.

Quote from: wolfking on January 19, 2010, 04:52:49 AM
This is in fact 1 song, it's not a Six Degrees or Pleasant Shade of Grey gimmick with 7 or 8 different songs stuck together to make 1 long track.

You are aware that SDOIT is one song, right? It was composed as a single song, but they decided to split it up on the album into tracks.

Well, I do understand that it stated that it is one song, but really, the sections are too different for it to in fact be one long song IMO.

I'm not saying anything about how it sounds, just making sure you knew that it was written and composed as a single song. Any splitting that happened came along in post production.

SoundscapeMN · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2010, 06:15:48 PM »

Quote from: Portrucci on January 19, 2010, 06:52:09 PM

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on January 19, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
great record. Admittedly, I need to listen to it and Godspeed's Skinny Fists album more, I just need to remember to.
If you like Skinny Fists, You should definitely check out there other album F#A# infinity and their EP Slow Riot for Zero Kanada. Both just as amazing

I actually own F#A# and have played it once or twice. Godspeed are great, but I find them to be kind of a mood-band, even as great as they are.

Crow · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2010, 08:13:42 PM »

So I finally got my physical copy of this disc after over a year of waiting to find it for a reasonable price and a month after that waiting for it to come in the mail. SO HAPPY

(btw don't ask how i had it before just know that I legally own the disc atm)

sonatafanica · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2010, 08:22:26 PM »

YOU PROBABLY DOWNLOADED IT ILLEGALLY BEFORE YOU SON OF A BITCH

I KNEW IT

DUDE

Zook · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2010, 05:21:26 PM »

Quote from: Parama on January 22, 2010, 08:13:42 PM

So I finally got my physical copy of this disc after over a year of waiting to find it for a reasonable price and a month after that waiting for it to come in the mail. SO HAPPY
(btw don't ask how i had it before just know that I legally own the disc atm)

https://www.cmdistro.com/Item/Green_Carnation_-_Light_Of_Day-_Day_Of_Darkness_-DIGI_Reissue-/10091

Is this reasonable enough? I don't want to pay too much if I buy it.

Sintheros · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2010, 06:41:38 PM »

Wait. WHAT?! They reissued it? Like a week ago? IN A DIGIPAK? WHAT?!

Crow · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2010, 08:04:38 PM »

They also reissued the disc which is what I got <_<

wolfking · « **Reply #28 on:** January 26, 2010, 03:06:55 AM »

Wow, it's been reissued, my copy I bought only a few weeks ago is the original pressing.

Zook · « **Reply #29 on:** January 26, 2010, 11:31:49 AM »

I just made a nifty edit of this song without that Siren whaling in the desert. I sicked Kratos on that bitch.

wolfking · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2010, 04:37:22 AM »

Quote from: Zook on January 26, 2010, 11:31:49 AM

I just made a nifty edit of this song without that Siren whaling in the desert. I sicked Kratos on that bitch.

As much as I love the full song, I'm interested in making a bit of an edit myself, just for fun.

Zook · « **Reply #31 on:** January 27, 2010, 08:12:49 AM »

Without the female vox it's still 55:06 and it doesn't sound like something should be there. He stops singing and it gets quiet for a tad and the acoustic guitar chord stikes.

Sintheros · « **Reply #32 on:** January 27, 2010, 12:21:31 PM »

Just got the digipak re-release, having never had a physical copy. Quite nice, has the lyrics written in.

wolfking · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2010, 03:35:31 AM »

Quote from: Zook on January 27, 2010, 08:12:49 AM

Without the female vox it's still 55:06 and it doesn't sound like something should be there. He stops singing and it gets quiet for a tad and the acoustic guitar chord stikes.

Yeah, I thought it would work quite nicely like that, considering the segues between these sections. Still bloody long, but come to think of it, nothing else really deserves to be edited out.

wolfking · « **Reply #34 on:** June 24, 2010, 05:36:57 AM »

Been listening to this again lately, thought the thread deserves a bump, amazing song!!

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Author Topic: Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness (Read 7149 times)