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ytserush

Quote from: Stadler on December 04, 2018, 06:30:36 AM
I ordered from Fish too; I got the EP within about three days (Edinburgh to Hartford, CT; that's INSANE.)   But he posted a picture of his wife with a table full of Clutching sets, so I think they are coming soon!

They day after I saw that photo the copy I got from Marillion showed up. I wasn't getting antsy about it until I saw that photo. Fortunately I only had to wait a day.

That EP is a grower.  I really like it now.

ytserush

Quote from: ytserush on December 06, 2018, 03:56:00 PM
Quote from: Stadler on December 04, 2018, 06:30:36 AM
I ordered from Fish too; I got the EP within about three days (Edinburgh to Hartford, CT; that's INSANE.)   But he posted a picture of his wife with a table full of Clutching sets, so I think they are coming soon!

They day after I saw that photo the copy I got from Marillion showed up. I wasn't getting antsy about it until I saw that photo. Fortunately I only had to wait a day.

That EP is a grower.  I really like it now.

Fish's signed copy arrived yesterday.

hockeydude25

Bitter Suite from misplaced childhood is an incredible song.  So atmospheric.

ytserush

Quote from: hockeydude25 on March 13, 2019, 05:22:29 PM
Bitter Suite from misplaced childhood is an incredible song.  So atmospheric.

The whole album is a stone cold masterpiece.....especially live.

Stadler

Quote from: ytserush on March 19, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: hockeydude25 on March 13, 2019, 05:22:29 PM
Bitter Suite from misplaced childhood is an incredible song.  So atmospheric.

The whole album is a stone cold masterpiece.....especially live.

No doubt, and then the band goes and tops it with Clutching (As of yesterday, a Top Three Stadler album of all time).

KevShmev

I've come around to liking some of Marillion's music, after initially being bored to tears with it, and I would agree that Bitter Suite is very good. The back-to-back of that and Heart of Lothian is, for me, the highlight of Misplaced Childhood.  The rest of the album is solid, with some good moments like the end of Blind Curve, but I think I have a tough time connecting with Fish's vocals.  There are too many moments where I feel like the vocal melodies hold the song back, almost like a more emotional delivery could have really made a difference; Fish's style is too sterile for me, more often than not.

Stadler

Quote from: KevShmev on March 20, 2019, 07:03:06 AM
I've come around to liking some of Marillion's music, after initially being bored to tears with it, and I would agree that Bitter Suite is very good. The back-to-back of that and Heart of Lothian is, for me, the highlight of Misplaced Childhood.  The rest of the album is solid, with some good moments like the end of Blind Curve, but I think I have a tough time connecting with Fish's vocals.  There are too many moments where I feel like the vocal melodies hold the song back, almost like a more emotional delivery could have really made a difference; Fish's style is too sterile for me, more often than not.

If you replace "Fish" with "Hogarth", that's me, even if the moments where Hogarth shines eclipses those of Fish.  Fish couldn't sing "The Space" on his best day, but there's something about the passion and fire of "White Russian" or "Wide Boys" is really satisfying.

ytserush

Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2019, 05:35:26 AM
Quote from: ytserush on March 19, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: hockeydude25 on March 13, 2019, 05:22:29 PM
Bitter Suite from misplaced childhood is an incredible song.  So atmospheric.

The whole album is a stone cold masterpiece.....especially live.

No doubt, and then the band goes and tops it with Clutching (As of yesterday, a Top Three Stadler album of all time).

Not going to argue that having repeated listened to it and shows from that tour on many many many late night drives back home from somewhere.

ytserush

Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2019, 09:43:27 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on March 20, 2019, 07:03:06 AM
I've come around to liking some of Marillion's music, after initially being bored to tears with it, and I would agree that Bitter Suite is very good. The back-to-back of that and Heart of Lothian is, for me, the highlight of Misplaced Childhood.  The rest of the album is solid, with some good moments like the end of Blind Curve, but I think I have a tough time connecting with Fish's vocals.  There are too many moments where I feel like the vocal melodies hold the song back, almost like a more emotional delivery could have really made a difference; Fish's style is too sterile for me, more often than not.

If you replace "Fish" with "Hogarth", that's me, even if the moments where Hogarth shines eclipses those of Fish.  Fish couldn't sing "The Space" on his best day, but there's something about the passion and fire of "White Russian" or "Wide Boys" is really satisfying.

Fish can't sing, but that really isn't the point is it......

Hogarth has gotten better with age even though he still shouldn't touch any Fish songs now just as Fish shouldn't touch any Marillion songs anymore either.

And with the track record since then, there's really no reason to bother.

SoundscapeMN

bump.

I've never seen this before.

Fish with Phil Collins and Paul Carrack at Nelson Mandela's 70th Birthday celebration at Wembley in 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzpC5cYXbI

ytserush

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on April 25, 2019, 02:52:21 PM
bump.

I've never seen this before.

Fish with Phil Collins and Paul Carrack at Nelson Mandela's 70th Birthday celebration at Wembley in 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzpC5cYXbI

Forgot about this one. Yet one more reminder about how big this band really was in Europe back then.

T-ski

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on April 25, 2019, 02:52:21 PM
bump.

I've never seen this before.

Fish with Phil Collins and Paul Carrack at Nelson Mandela's 70th Birthday celebration at Wembley in 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzpC5cYXbI

what, no love for Mark Brzezicki?

also, who wore it better, Fish or Bam Bam Bigelow?

ytserush

Quote from: T-ski on April 28, 2019, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: SoundscapeMN on April 25, 2019, 02:52:21 PM
bump.

I've never seen this before.

Fish with Phil Collins and Paul Carrack at Nelson Mandela's 70th Birthday celebration at Wembley in 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzpC5cYXbI

what, no love for Mark Brzezicki?

also, who wore it better, Fish or Bam Bam Bigelow?

Big Country is another great band.

ytserush

Listened to Somewhere Else again earlier today and realized I don't have too much from that tour.

Is there a complete tour date listing online somewhere?

SoundscapeMN

bump.

I always knew about the tour with Rush in 1986, but I am almost shocked to learn Marillion also opened for Rush for 4 of 5 nights in 1983 at Radio City Music Hall, lol.  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie95bwwZbfs&fbclid=IwAR1YtVtut6TRXnQ3p9HDinUfZv36p5rUAJzPsIJ_mPntADWQm7ljU73BWRE&app=desktop

ytserush

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on July 18, 2019, 09:49:48 AM
bump.

I always knew about the tour with Rush in 1986, but I am almost shocked to learn Marillion also opened for Rush for 4 of 5 nights in 1983 at Radio City Music Hall, lol.  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie95bwwZbfs&fbclid=IwAR1YtVtut6TRXnQ3p9HDinUfZv36p5rUAJzPsIJ_mPntADWQm7ljU73BWRE&app=desktop

Yes they did. If I'm not mistaken three of those five might have surfaced although the sound quality leaves a bit to be desired.  Did they just give up on the fifth night? (now I need to check my Marillion bios.) There is some audible negativity on the recordings but not as much as the legend seems to indicate (Though if there were visual incidents going on the audio would have captured that obviously.)

To this day I don't think Fish has talked much about it.

SoundscapeMN

bump.

WITH FRIENDS FROM THE ORCHESTRA can be ordered now.

"PLEASE NOTE, WE EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING THIS ITEM ON OR AROUND 9TH OCTOBER."

http://www.marillion.com/shop/albums/intactcd19.htm

lonestar


ytserush

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on September 30, 2019, 07:14:20 AM
bump.

WITH FRIENDS FROM THE ORCHESTRA can be ordered now.

"PLEASE NOTE, WE EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING THIS ITEM ON OR AROUND 9TH OCTOBER."

http://www.marillion.com/shop/albums/intactcd19.htm

Woke up  yesterday to my wife saying there was a "new" album and she already preordered it.

Had no idea this was even a concept.

I guess they need a placeholder while they think about what to do next. I'd love to see a tour with an orchestra but there's no way anything like this hits the US.

The Letter M

Quote from: ytserush on October 02, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: SoundscapeMN on September 30, 2019, 07:14:20 AM
bump.

WITH FRIENDS FROM THE ORCHESTRA can be ordered now.

"PLEASE NOTE, WE EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING THIS ITEM ON OR AROUND 9TH OCTOBER."

http://www.marillion.com/shop/albums/intactcd19.htm

Woke up  yesterday to my wife saying there was a "new" album and she already preordered it.

Had no idea this was even a concept.

I guess they need a placeholder while they think about what to do next. I'd love to see a tour with an orchestra but there's no way anything like this hits the US.

Honestly, this is a slightly better idea than the acoustic/stripped down album they released several years ago. Now that they've done both of those ideas, what's next on the checklist of non-new-material-studio-album cliches they can do? All covers album?

-Marc.

Fritzinger

Quote from: The Letter M on October 02, 2019, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: ytserush on October 02, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: SoundscapeMN on September 30, 2019, 07:14:20 AM
bump.

WITH FRIENDS FROM THE ORCHESTRA can be ordered now.

"PLEASE NOTE, WE EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING THIS ITEM ON OR AROUND 9TH OCTOBER."

http://www.marillion.com/shop/albums/intactcd19.htm

Woke up  yesterday to my wife saying there was a "new" album and she already preordered it.

Had no idea this was even a concept.

I guess they need a placeholder while they think about what to do next. I'd love to see a tour with an orchestra but there's no way anything like this hits the US.

Honestly, this is a slightly better idea than the acoustic/stripped down album they released several years ago. Now that they've done both of those ideas, what's next on the checklist of non-new-material-studio-album cliches they can do? All covers album?

-Marc.

I hope not. There are very few examples where I love stripped down/unplugged/re-arranged versions of own songs or cover albums.
Pain Of Salvation's Falling Home has some awesome songs (Holy Diver? Holy shit!), Scratch My Back by Gabriel is a masterpiece, Cover Version by Steven Wilson is pretty cool... But apart from that... I don't need that kind of stuff.


ytserush

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on October 03, 2019, 04:55:49 AM
interview with the Steve's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=nkrMJS-8ctQ

Thanks. Seems so strange to hear them acknowledge that the band may not be around forever, but that is the reality.  Can't wait for Steve's next solo album. It's going to be awesome!  Don't know how he'll top his last one but I'm sure he will.

ytserush

Quote from: The Letter M on October 02, 2019, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: ytserush on October 02, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: SoundscapeMN on September 30, 2019, 07:14:20 AM
bump.

WITH FRIENDS FROM THE ORCHESTRA can be ordered now.

"PLEASE NOTE, WE EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING THIS ITEM ON OR AROUND 9TH OCTOBER."

http://www.marillion.com/shop/albums/intactcd19.htm

Woke up  yesterday to my wife saying there was a "new" album and she already preordered it.

Had no idea this was even a concept.

I guess they need a placeholder while they think about what to do next. I'd love to see a tour with an orchestra but there's no way anything like this hits the US.

Honestly, this is a slightly better idea than the acoustic/stripped down album they released several years ago. Now that they've done both of those ideas, what's next on the checklist of non-new-material-studio-album cliches they can do? All covers album?

-Marc.

I really didn't like Less Is More much.  Right there with Brave at the bottom for me.

Although I should really pull it off of the shelf again to see if I still feel that way. It's been easily more than a year since I've heard it.

ytserush

Anyone get "With Friends From The Orchestra?"

I honestly didn't think it would be this good. It's kicking my ass.  Of course Europe and the UK get to witness this stuff live.

Hopefully we'll at least see a DVD out of it.

Have to admit I was a bit skeptical because Less Is More didn't do a lot for me, but this is pretty amazing.  Even The Hollow Man sounds halfway decent and I'm no fan of Brave.

gazinwales

Whoah, wait a sec, you don't like Brave?

lonestar

Quote from: ytserush on November 02, 2019, 10:31:47 AM
Anyone get "With Friends From The Orchestra?"

I honestly didn't think it would be this good. It's kicking my ass.  Of course Europe and the UK get to witness this stuff live.

Hopefully we'll at least see a DVD out of it.

Have to admit I was a bit skeptical because Less Is More didn't do a lot for me, but this is pretty amazing.  Even The Hollow Man sounds halfway decent and I'm no fan of Brave.
I was hoping it'd stream somewhere, but haven't seen it yet so I may have to buy it outright. Estonia brought me to tears, so I can see the rest of it being just as stunning.

ytserush

Quote from: lonestar on November 02, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: ytserush on November 02, 2019, 10:31:47 AM
Anyone get "With Friends From The Orchestra?"

I honestly didn't think it would be this good. It's kicking my ass.  Of course Europe and the UK get to witness this stuff live.

Hopefully we'll at least see a DVD out of it.

Have to admit I was a bit skeptical because Less Is More didn't do a lot for me, but this is pretty amazing.  Even The Hollow Man sounds halfway decent and I'm no fan of Brave.
I was hoping it'd stream somewhere, but haven't seen it yet so I may have to buy it outright. Estonia brought me to tears, so I can see the rest of it being just as stunning.

It's pretty stunning.  I haven't even bothered cracking open the Afraid Of Sunlight Deluxe Edition yet.  Hoping they record one of the live shows because that's about the only way I'm going to get to experience it. Rothery just scorches the earth on this record.

ytserush

Quote from: gazinwales on November 02, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
Whoah, wait a sec, you don't like Brave?

It's a snoozefest.

The only real blemish on their record other than maybe Less Is More.  Warmed to like about half of Afraid Of Sunlight which is why I sprung for the deluxe edition (for the unreleased material mainly.)

The Curious Orange

Quote from: ytserush on November 06, 2019, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on November 02, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
Whoah, wait a sec, you don't like Brave?

It's a snoozefest.

Wow. I mean, wow. I get that we all have different tastes, and that we all hear music differently and everything, but you are just... wrong. So very wrong.

SoundscapeMN

Quote from: The Curious Orange on November 07, 2019, 02:31:16 AM
Quote from: ytserush on November 06, 2019, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on November 02, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
Whoah, wait a sec, you don't like Brave?

It's a snoozefest.

Wow. I mean, wow. I get that we all have different tastes, and that we all hear music differently and everything, but you are just... wrong. So very wrong.

no use arguing personal taste, but it's my favorite album ever made.

But then again, I can't stand Radiohead and OK Computer, and find Fear of a Blank Planet to be incredibly overrated and boring.

So I can kind of see where ysterush is coming from.

SoundscapeMN

new interview with Mark Kelly.

'Script/early days documentary included with the Remaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Ly2h2lnqE

Evermind

Not quite pertinent to the conversation happening in the thread now, but I was listening to Marbles this morning and once again was completely blindsided by how good this album is. So much that I actually decided to make this post here just to acknowledge this. Man, what an album.
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ytserush

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on November 07, 2019, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: The Curious Orange on November 07, 2019, 02:31:16 AM
Quote from: ytserush on November 06, 2019, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on November 02, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
Whoah, wait a sec, you don't like Brave?

It's a snoozefest.

Wow. I mean, wow. I get that we all have different tastes, and that we all hear music differently and everything, but you are just... wrong. So very wrong.

no use arguing personal taste, but it's my favorite album ever made.

But then again, I can't stand Radiohead and OK Computer, and find Fear of a Blank Planet to be incredibly overrated and boring.

So I can kind of see where ysterush is coming from.

For what it's worth, I'd take Fear Of A Blank Planet over Brave any day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's the only Porcupine Tree CD I own.

As far a Brave goes, I respect the attempt, but it does nothing for me.  I stopped my annual listen to it (to see if anything changed) more than 5 years ago.  I'd much rather listen to something I enjoy.

The only total clunker they've recorded. (if you don't count Less Is More.)

King Puppies and the Acid Guppies

Quote from: Evermind on November 16, 2019, 11:53:49 PM
Not quite pertinent to the conversation happening in the thread now, but I was listening to Marbles this morning and once again was completely blindsided by how good this album is. So much that I actually decided to make this post here just to acknowledge this. Man, what an album.
Well, it is the greatest album ever made.... :metal
aka Puppies_On_Acid
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