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Re: Marillion
« Reply #770 on: June 08, 2016, 05:40:06 AM »
I'd rank the epics Ocean Cloud, Neverland, The Invisible Man, but I'd intersperse them with the shorter songs. I'm not even sure if Ocean Cloud is #1. I absolutely love Genie and Fantastic Place.

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« Reply #771 on: June 08, 2016, 06:35:18 AM »
Of course he's human. He has the ability to reason and his reasoning is that Brave bores him.

Good, then I'm human even if TA really bores me. ;)
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« Reply #772 on: June 08, 2016, 06:38:34 AM »
First time, ever, listening to this band today. Half way through listening to Misplaced Childhood and got to say it's a VERY impressive first listen. Sure to be giving this plenty more listens  :tup

Misplaced childhood is a great album from start to finish.  That's almost perfect. Marillion was one of the very few prog band of the 80's at a time when that style was at its lowest popularity probably.
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #773 on: June 08, 2016, 12:30:28 PM »
Of course he's human. He has the ability to reason and his reasoning is that Brave bores him.

Good, then I'm human even if TA really bores me. ;)

Well now you're just being silly.   :lol  ;)

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #774 on: June 08, 2016, 12:45:41 PM »
I actually like the vocal stuttering/repeating/echoing effect on Neverland. It is something different, and unique, and it conveys a type of emotion you don't hear all that often from H or for that matter, many other singers. I actually think if it wasn't there, Neverland wouldn't be as good.

That MAKES it for me.  I love that part. 

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #775 on: June 28, 2016, 04:55:06 AM »
per the Pledgemusic campaign page, this is apparently the Track Listing.

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We promised to keep you updated on the album progress. So, with that in mind, we are pleased to share our final and confirmed track listing. More news coming soon:)

1. El Dorado (i) Long-Shadowed Sun
2. El Dorado (ii) The Gold
3. El Dorado (iii) Demolished Lives
4. El Dorado (iv) F E A R
5. El Dorado (v) The Grandchildren of Apes
6. Living in F E A R
7. The Leavers (i) Wake Up in Music
8. The Leavers (ii) The Remainers
9. The Leavers (iii) Vapour Trails in the Sky
10. The Leavers (iv) The Jumble of Days
11.   The Leavers (v) One Tonight
12.   White Paper
13.   The New Kings (i) Fuck Everyone and Run
14.   The New Kings (ii) Russia’s Locked Doors
15.   The New Kings (iii) A Scary Sky
16.   The New Kings (iv) Why Is Nothing Ever True?
17.   The Leavers (vi) Tomorrow’s New Country

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #776 on: June 28, 2016, 07:06:56 AM »
Wow, only 5 songs?! A CD full of Marillion epics?! Cool...
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #777 on: June 28, 2016, 07:18:03 AM »
Interesting that the final part of "The Leavers" is separate from the rest of it. Wonder if it acts as a hidden track?

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« Reply #778 on: July 06, 2016, 02:28:34 PM »
Wow, only 5 songs?! A CD full of Marillion epics?! Cool...

Seriously, this looks more like a Transatlantic tracklisting than a Marillion one. Looks impressive, though I have to wonder how long those multi-part songs will end up being. For all we know, they could only be 15 minutes long...or they could be close to 30!

Interesting that the final part of "The Leavers" is separate from the rest of it. Wonder if it acts as a hidden track?

I've been wondering that, too, but I think it might just be more of a small reprise for the suite, or perhaps, that part of "The Leavers" sounded best to close the album, but they wanted the rest of the suite in the middle of the album? Who knows...

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #779 on: July 06, 2016, 06:15:17 PM »
I also wouldn't put it past them to have sequenced it by keys that flow together. Perhaps that part of "The Leavers" perfectly leads into "White Paper" which perfectly leads into the last epic, but there was still the last part of "The Leavers" to go.

Either way I'm sure Marc is correct in saying they thought that last part of "The Leavers" was the right ending for the record. Bit like the "Shine On..." and "In the Presence of Enemies" situations.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #780 on: July 07, 2016, 06:53:28 AM »
Apparently,  "The New Kings" has been released and runs at 16:36 long.

I think we're definitely looking at a lengthy album here, folks!  :tup

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #781 on: July 07, 2016, 08:28:03 AM »
To anyone who pre-ordered through Pledgemusic, check your emails, they sent out The New Kings mp3.

Listening now...pretty classic stuff....

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #782 on: July 07, 2016, 08:38:46 AM »
I'm excited for this.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #783 on: July 07, 2016, 08:45:13 AM »
And sixteen minutes later, killer fucking tune. I'm sure it's up on YT by now.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #784 on: July 07, 2016, 10:00:43 AM »
Awww man, fucking Rothery's guitars at  the end........right in the feels bro...

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #785 on: July 07, 2016, 10:22:27 AM »
Okay, now I have to find this song.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #786 on: July 07, 2016, 12:25:44 PM »
NEW KINGS!

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #788 on: July 08, 2016, 05:25:26 AM »
I forgot to mention this. The other day my Facebook status was a Marillion song quote and the official Marillion Facebook page liked it.  :metal

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #789 on: July 08, 2016, 06:19:18 AM »
From Google Play pre-order:

1
El Dorado (i) Long-Shadowed Sun
1:26
Album only
2
El Dorado (ii) the Gold
6:12
Album only
3
El Dorado (iii) Demolished Lives
2:23
Album only
4
El Dorado (iv) F E A R
4:07
Album only
5
El Dorado (v) the Grandchildren of Apes
2:35
Album only
6
Living in F E A R
6:25
Album only
7
The Leavers (i) Wake up in Music
4:27
Album only
8
The Leavers (ii) the Remainers
1:34
Album only
9
The Leavers (iii) Vapour Trails in the Sky
4:49
Album only
10
The Leavers (iv) the Jumble of Days
4:20
Album only
11
The Leavers (v) One Tonight
3:56
Album only
12
White Paper
7:18
Album only
13
The New Kings (i) Fuck Everyone and Run
4:22
Album only
14
The New Kings (ii) Russia's Locked Doors
6:24
Album only
15
The New Kings (iii) a Scary Sky
2:33
Album only
16
The New Kings (iv) Why Is Nothing Ever True?
3:24
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Tomorrow's New Country
1:47
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #790 on: July 08, 2016, 07:10:43 AM »
El Dorado 16:43
Living In FEAR 6:25
The Leavers (I-V) 19:06
White Paper 7:18
The New Kings 16:43
Tomorrow's New Country 1:47
Total- 68:02

Some quick math...and wow. An album of epics and 2 shorter songs. This might be pretty impressive. Their long form pieces do tend to be some of my favorites (as evidenced by their stellar performances of them on their Marillion Weekend release Size Matters).

I wonder if part VI of "The Leavers" will be performed with the rest of it when done live?

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #791 on: July 08, 2016, 08:19:02 AM »
I forgot to mention this. The other day my Facebook status was a Marillion song quote and the official Marillion Facebook page liked it.  :metal
I can apparently top that now  :lol
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #792 on: July 08, 2016, 09:59:26 AM »
The New Kings is actually 16:43, not 17:03. So with El Dorado and The New Kings we have two epics of exactly the same length.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #793 on: July 08, 2016, 11:03:37 AM »
The New Kings is actually 16:43, not 17:03. So with El Dorado and The New Kings we have two epics of exactly the same length.


You're right. I can't do math right when I wake up lol

And I'm sure the similar track lengths were planned.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #794 on: July 08, 2016, 11:27:24 AM »
I forgot to mention this. The other day my Facebook status was a Marillion song quote and the official Marillion Facebook page liked it.  :metal
I can apparently top that now  :lol

Seriously. Keep trying, Jeremy.  :lol

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #795 on: July 08, 2016, 11:36:57 AM »
 :lol
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« Reply #796 on: July 08, 2016, 11:43:20 AM »
That was amazing.
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« Reply #797 on: July 08, 2016, 11:44:14 AM »
 :lol


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« Reply #798 on: July 08, 2016, 11:49:23 AM »
Now I'm kind of excited to check out their new music lol
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #799 on: July 08, 2016, 12:02:59 PM »
When I first started listening to them, a friend of mine, who is a huge Marillion fan, told me I'd probably like Season's End. Coincidentally, that album has Easter on it. I still consider it one of my favorite Marillion albums.

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« Reply #800 on: July 08, 2016, 04:25:51 PM »
I think we need a screenshot for those not involved. I posted that I was excited to be listening to new Marillion on FB, and Hef came in and we harmlessly bantered back and forth as we usually do. Then Marillion decided to give Hef a bit of life direction....


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Re: Marillion
« Reply #801 on: July 08, 2016, 05:36:01 PM »
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Whoa, indeed.

Back when I discovered Transatlantic (after Dream Theater), I decided to check out the other 3 parent-bands Transatlantic's members came from. Spock's Beard came to me easily, as did nearly all of Neal's music up to that time (around 2005 when I discovered them). The Flower Kings came next, not long after, and I quickly lapped up all they had available, anxiously awaiting their next outing (which was Paradox Hotel, an album I didn't quite get into at release, but is now a top 3 TFK album for me). And then there was Marillion.

After SB and TFK, I wasn't really getting into Marillion myself, neither Fish or H era stuff, and I tried. Hard. A lot. Several times. I bought a few of their albums, spun others online, and nothing clicked with me. It wasn't until after Happiness Is The Road that I started to really get into them. Marbles clicked, then so did Season's End and Brave, and slowly but surely, the other albums started sounding good to me. I was getting into them, even Fish era stuff, while dated, started sounding good too.

I think Marillion is a fairly dense band, by that, I mean they've got a sound that is hard to get into, unless you're already opened up to it, or something like it. It's hard to pin down what they sound LIKE, other than themselves, but for whatever reason, their unique sound kind of makes a barrier for a lot of new fans.

I went through a phase of buying up a TON of Marillion stuff, from studio albums, to going on eBay to buy out-of-print Racket Record exclusives (like older Marillion Weekend shows on DVD and CD, or making-of albums, or other random live shows). I spent more money than I care to account on getting a lot of Marillion albums, and I was totally in love with the band and their sound. I missed out on the crowd-funding for HITR, but when Sounds That Can't Be Made came up, I pledged and eagerly awaited the album. I got the gorgeous book-cased CD with a wonderful chipboard slipcover. It's an amazing addition to my collection.

Unfortunately, I missed out on the pre-order campaign for FEAR, and will have to resort to the retail edition. I have to say, though, in the years since STCBM, I've died down on my love for Marillion. Still a great band, yes, but I'm not AS obsessed as I was before. I haven't scoured their Racket Records shop for new Marillion Weekend shows or live albums, and I haven't really listened to them all that much in the last couple of years (I blame Haken and Big Big Train for being the "newer" bands in my life that I have obsessed over).

TL;DR - I can completely resonate with the feel that Marillion is just too hard to get into, so don't feel bad and don't feel pressured to get into them. If you try again in a few years, you may find yourself liking them as I did.

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« Reply #802 on: July 08, 2016, 07:13:07 PM »
I've listened to pretty much every Marillion album and still can hardly get into their stuff. I mean, I love the hell out of Ocean Cloud, and there's three songs on Sounds That Can't Be Made I like, but a lot of it just does not click for me at all.
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #803 on: July 09, 2016, 04:22:22 AM »
I like all Marillion eras, but I definitely prefer the more guitar-driven pre-Marbles albums. That said, I'm really enjoying The New Kings - that solo by Rothery and part IV = :hefdaddy

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« Reply #804 on: July 09, 2016, 08:20:50 AM »
I've listened to pretty much every Marillion album and still can hardly get into their stuff. I mean, I love the hell out of Ocean Cloud, and there's three songs on Sounds That Can't Be Made I like, but a lot of it just does not click for me at all.

This was my exact situation. However, once "Gaza" and "Montreal" made an impression on me, I started listening to STCBM in full and I find the whole thing very consistently impressive now. Then I went back to the full Marbles double disc, and I find that whole thing fairly consistent too. I can't say the same for marillion.com beyond the last two tracks yet, but otherwise this has simply been an exercise in patience more than it was for other prog bands. Now the patience is paying off.