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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1120 on: June 05, 2018, 08:26:35 PM »
I love Fish, seen him three times solo, but I just think he's a spent force creatively at this point).

I feel pretty confident in saying you haven't listened to Feast of Consequences or The Movable Feast (The live album) yet. I think he's at a creative peak myself.

Yeah, the High Wood Suite is one of his strongest pieces ever.
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1121 on: June 06, 2018, 09:32:11 AM »
I have FoC (despite what I said, I support Fish as an artist, and while I don't buy everything, I do try to buy his main releases just as a show of support), and it's okay.   I'd be more than willing to go back and re-listen to it.   13th Star was pretty good.  I liked it very much even if the surrounding drama seemed to overwhelm it a little bit.   

As for Afraid of Sunlight, I was with you on the "Cannibal Surf Babe"; it was for many years the "Whodunnit?" of the Marillion catalogue for me.  Then I dug into the song and what they were going for - a Beach Boys pastiche with a rather dissonant lyric about, well, I'm not 1000% sure, beyond the Brian Wilson references - and it made a lot more sense.   I actually like it now.   That whole album is WAYY deeper than it seems on the surface, what with the lyrical content (generally about the down- or dark-side of fame) and the sonic homages (one song, I think it's King, is in a mono "Wall of Sound" arrangement, ala Phil Spector)...  it's really grown on me.   

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1122 on: June 06, 2018, 01:50:08 PM »

As for Afraid of Sunlight, I was with you on the "Cannibal Surf Babe"; it was for many years the "Whodunnit?" of the Marillion catalogue for me.  Then I dug into the song and what they were going for - a Beach Boys pastiche with a rather dissonant lyric about, well, I'm not 1000% sure, beyond the Brian Wilson references - and it made a lot more sense.   I actually like it now.   That whole album is WAYY deeper than it seems on the surface, what with the lyrical content (generally about the down- or dark-side of fame) and the sonic homages (one song, I think it's King, is in a mono "Wall of Sound" arrangement, ala Phil Spector)...  it's really grown on me.

Beyond You is the one mixed in mono.  Dave Meegan really nailed the Phil Spector wall of sound vibe. 

I've loved AOS since my first listen on a bus in the Netherlands in the summer of 1995.  One of my favorite music listening experiences happened a few years later when I got to listen to it on headphones while driving from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon.  In the remaster liner notes Hogarth talks about how the album sort of drifted off in the general direction of Arizona.  Listening to it while driving through Northern Arizona, I had to agree.  I'd also like to listen to it while driving from Los Angeles to Vegas.  I think it would be the perfect soundtrack for that. 
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1123 on: June 12, 2018, 08:25:04 AM »
I picked up the Steven Wilson remix of Brave this past weekend, and I'm listening to it for the first time this morning.  It's interesting to hear this after being so familiar with the original album mix.  It's interesting to hear his take on things, and hear little bits and pieces he brought out that Dave Meegan either didn't use or kept in the background.  I watched the documentary on it last night as well, and man, if I could have been a fly on the wall during those sessions...

Brave is in my top 5 all time favorite albums.  I love the songs, I love the album, I love all the little bits of things they did to add to the vibe of the record.  I really think they made a masterpiece.
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1124 on: June 12, 2018, 02:30:13 PM »
I'm always so jealous of bands that were able to record in the 80's/90's. I know Brave was recorded in a castle in France somewhere and the band just stayed in the castle and utilized the vibe/ambience of the place to help influence the recording. Or Dream Theater living at Beartracks in beautiful upstate NY. I record in a goddamn bedroom.

I really want to hear the Brave remix but I just can't get myself to spend the money for something I already own.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1125 on: June 12, 2018, 05:48:16 PM »
I'm always so jealous of bands that were able to record in the 80's/90's. I know Brave was recorded in a castle in France somewhere and the band just stayed in the castle and utilized the vibe/ambience of the place to help influence the recording.

I can definitely hear that in the title track..

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1126 on: June 13, 2018, 07:38:35 PM »
I have FoC (despite what I said, I support Fish as an artist, and while I don't buy everything, I do try to buy his main releases just as a show of support), and it's okay.   I'd be more than willing to go back and re-listen to it.   13th Star was pretty good.  I liked it very much even if the surrounding drama seemed to overwhelm it a little bit.   

As for Afraid of Sunlight, I was with you on the "Cannibal Surf Babe"; it was for many years the "Whodunnit?" of the Marillion catalogue for me.  Then I dug into the song and what they were going for - a Beach Boys pastiche with a rather dissonant lyric about, well, I'm not 1000% sure, beyond the Brian Wilson references - and it made a lot more sense.   I actually like it now.   That whole album is WAYY deeper than it seems on the surface, what with the lyrical content (generally about the down- or dark-side of fame) and the sonic homages (one song, I think it's King, is in a mono "Wall of Sound" arrangement, ala Phil Spector)...  it's really grown on me.

Aside from the obvious. A lot of those songs are pretty amazing live after some repeated listens.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1127 on: June 13, 2018, 07:41:20 PM »
I picked up the Steven Wilson remix of Brave this past weekend, and I'm listening to it for the first time this morning.  It's interesting to hear this after being so familiar with the original album mix.  It's interesting to hear his take on things, and hear little bits and pieces he brought out that Dave Meegan either didn't use or kept in the background.  I watched the documentary on it last night as well, and man, if I could have been a fly on the wall during those sessions...

Brave is in my top 5 all time favorite albums.  I love the songs, I love the album, I love all the little bits of things they did to add to the vibe of the record.  I really think they made a masterpiece.



This is the only Marillion album I will not be reacquiring.


I should probably sell off my promo cassette now that I think of it.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1128 on: June 13, 2018, 07:43:11 PM »
I love Fish, seen him three times solo, but I just think he's a spent force creatively at this point).

I feel pretty confident in saying you haven't listened to Feast of Consequences or The Movable Feast (The live album) yet. I think he's at a creative peak myself.

Yeah, the High Wood Suite is one of his strongest pieces ever.

Sadly, I don't think I'll ever have the experience of soaking that in at a venue.