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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1855 on: October 30, 2020, 11:24:01 AM »
Arriving Somewhere to me is a good first 5-6 minutes and then the metal part really drags it down and the song just goes on for too long. Mellotron Scratch is easily my favorite from Deadwing too.

I totally agree about Arriving Somewhere. A great song on the whole but the metal riffs are just kind of repetitive and unnecessary. That album felt a bit like they were trying to cater to the general metal audience (maybe to justify being on Roadrunner?)

The metal side of PT worked fairly well on FOABP imo but before that (and after) there were some hit and misses. For songs that worked quite well like Blackest Eyes you also had songs like Arriving Somewhere where, for me at least, the metal element felt really forced into the song and just didn't gel. On FOABP it feels like the blending of those elements worked better.

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« Reply #1856 on: October 30, 2020, 12:16:36 PM »
Arriving Somewhere to me is a good first 5-6 minutes and then the metal part really drags it down and the song just goes on for too long. Mellotron Scratch is easily my favorite from Deadwing too.

I totally agree about Arriving Somewhere. A great song on the whole but the metal riffs are just kind of repetitive and unnecessary. That album felt a bit like they were trying to cater to the general metal audience (maybe to justify being on Roadrunner?)

The metal side of PT worked fairly well on FOABP imo but before that (and after) there were some hit and misses. For songs that worked quite well like Blackest Eyes you also had songs like Arriving Somewhere where, for me at least, the metal element felt really forced into the song and just didn't gel. On FOABP it feels like the blending of those elements worked better.

Would agree with that as well. Fear of a Blank Planet felt like a better melding of prog and metal for whatever reason. I did think In Absentia was a case of more artfully employing heaviness in an album that wasnít really metal.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1857 on: October 30, 2020, 12:20:26 PM »
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« Reply #1858 on: October 30, 2020, 01:59:35 PM »
I'd nominate Russia on Ice.

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« Reply #1859 on: October 30, 2020, 02:03:01 PM »
I'd nominate Russia on Ice.
Yes. Russia on Ice (as well as Feel So Low) are Top 10 Porcupine Tree songs for sure.

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« Reply #1860 on: October 30, 2020, 02:09:19 PM »
My top three would probably be Trains, Hatesong and Russia On Ice. Lightbulb Sun is one of their more inconsistent albums but damn does it have some of their best material.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1861 on: October 30, 2020, 02:26:02 PM »
Trains and Dark Matter for me. Probably Hatesong as my final pick for the top3. Anesthetize would be high up too.

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« Reply #1862 on: October 30, 2020, 02:52:41 PM »
The best Porcupine Tree song is clearly the 40 minute uncut version of Moonloop.  :biggrin:

But in all seriousness I would personally give strong consideration to The Sky Moves Sideways Pt.1 as a favorite PT song.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1863 on: October 30, 2020, 03:10:16 PM »
The best Porcupine Tree song is clearly the 40 minute uncut version of Moonloop.  :biggrin:

But in all seriousness I would personally give strong consideration to The Sky Moves Sideways Pt.1 as a favorite PT song.

The Sky Moves Sideways is one of those songs (and albums) that seem to fly under the radar but I really like it. I consider TSMS-Signify-SD-LBS to be the peak of PT personally. UtD and IA are both good as well but those 4 albums in a row are really nice.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1864 on: October 30, 2020, 03:52:26 PM »
Dark Matter is #1, without any doubt.

other contenders for high up would be Gravity Eyelids, The Sky Moves Sideways 1, Buying New Soul & The Start of Something Beautiful

I've also always loved The Moon Touches Your Shoulder, Nine Cats and A Smart Kid for some reason.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1865 on: October 30, 2020, 05:06:45 PM »
I Drive the Hearse, Collapse the Light into Earth, Sentimental and Open Car are some of my favorites that rarely get mentioned

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« Reply #1866 on: October 30, 2020, 05:41:04 PM »
All the talk about "Arriving Somewhere" had me thinking how folks would rank the 10+ minute length PT songs, so here's a (mostly complete) list of them:
No Reason To Live, No Reason To Die
Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape
Radioactive Toy (just barely, at 10:00)
It Will Rain For A Million Years
Up The Downstair
Burning Sky
Voyage 34 Phase I
Voyage 34 Phase II
Voyage 34 Phase III
Voyage 34 Phase IV
The Sky Moves Sideways Phase 1
The Sky Moves Sideways Phase 2
Moonloop (Improvisation)
Waiting (Phases One & Two)
Mesmer III / Coma Divine
Metanoia I / Intermediate Jesus
Metanoia II
Even Less (Full Version)
Russia On Ice
Buying New Soul
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Anesthetize
Time Flies

Of these, some of my early favorites are "Burning Sky " and both parts of TSMS, but later on, "Russia On Ice" and "Anesthetize" are some of their best.

The best Porcupine Tree song is clearly the 40 minute uncut version of Moonloop.  :biggrin:

You know what... that is a completely valid opinion to have. I have a CD-r burned with the full version of "Moonloop" with the alternate version of "The Sky Moves Sideways", and it's 74:49 of great music.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1867 on: October 30, 2020, 09:23:44 PM »
The best Porcupine Tree song is clearly the 40 minute uncut version of Moonloop.  :biggrin:

You know what... that is a completely valid opinion to have. I have a CD-r burned with the full version of "Moonloop" with the alternate version of "The Sky Moves Sideways", and it's 74:49 of great music.

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I do actually like it. I used to put it on to fall asleep to years ago. I don't remember where I got my copy of the Extended version of Moonloop, but there are parts of it that sound........off???
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« Reply #1868 on: October 31, 2020, 01:46:10 AM »
I've been listening to Lightbulb Sun quite a bit lately. I think I'd rank the songs like this:

1. Russia On Ice
2. Feel So Low
3. Four Chords That Made A Million
4. Lightbulb Sun
5. Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled
6. Shesmovedon
7. The Rest Will Flow
8. Hatesong
9. How Is Your Life Today?
10. Where We Would Be

I think all these songs are really good, though WWWB is kind of forgettable to me.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1869 on: October 31, 2020, 01:59:17 AM »
I'd like to mention Buying New Soul and So-Called Friend as among my very favourites.

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« Reply #1870 on: October 31, 2020, 02:23:47 AM »
(1. Buying New Soul)
1. Shesmovedon
2. The Rest Will Flow
3. Lightbulb Sun
4. Russia On Ice
5. Feel So Low
6. Four Chords That Made A Million
7. Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled
8. Where We Would Be
9. How Is Your Life Today?
10. Hatesong

Bottom 5 I don't care for. I'm not a huge fan of this album. :dunno:

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1871 on: October 31, 2020, 09:06:40 AM »
Trains is PT best song.



Probably gets my vote too.

That seems to be the general consensus, but I've never understood why Trains is better than the other PT songs. I mean, I like it, but there are others that I would rank higher.

Trains is top tier PT but if I had to choose favorites it'd either be Chloroform or Fadeway (the version Gavin on drums).

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« Reply #1872 on: October 31, 2020, 10:26:38 AM »
S Tier
1: Hatesong
2: Russia On Ice

A Tier
3: Lightbulb Sun

B Tier
4: The Rest Will Flow

C Tier
5: Feel So Low
6: Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled
7: Where We Would Be
8: Shesmovedon

D Tier
9: How Was Your Life Today?
10: Four Chords That Made A Million


Buying New Soul would be right above Lightbulb Sun if it were included.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1873 on: October 31, 2020, 12:45:12 PM »
Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth should definitely be A-tier imo. In fact I'd bump that one and the title track up to S tier and I would agree fairly well with the rest.

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« Reply #1874 on: October 31, 2020, 04:51:25 PM »
Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth should definitely be A-tier imo.

It's grown on me a bit over the years. I think it's the Heaven's Gate sample that holds the song back for me. It just kinda gets in the way of the lush instrumentation underneath it and I don't feel like there's any good connection between it and the rest of the song.
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« Reply #1875 on: October 31, 2020, 05:00:19 PM »
I wanna highlight Half Light, the live version from Tilburg is mesmerizing.
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« Reply #1876 on: October 31, 2020, 05:10:41 PM »
Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth should definitely be A-tier imo.

It's grown on me a bit over the years. I think it's the Heaven's Gate sample that holds the song back for me. It just kinda gets in the way of the lush instrumentation underneath it and I don't feel like there's any good connection between it and the rest of the song.

I think the Heaven's Gate speech actually works well in context of the song. Well, if you believe this interpretation, I suppose. Basically, the first half is about two young people, possibly in love, spending their summer together, and it somewhat highlights the innocence of that time (it's similar to Trains in that way). Then the second half, where the Heaven's Gate speech happens, is supposed to represent the loss of that innocence, and perhaps it implies that these two young people eventually became a part of the Heaven's Gate cult. And maybe it's symbolic about how some people start their lives innocent and happy, but eventually lose their innocence and start doing insane things like that.

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« Reply #1877 on: October 31, 2020, 05:55:51 PM »
I wanna highlight Half Light, the live version from Tilburg is mesmerizing.
Half Light is an amazing song. :tup
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« Reply #1878 on: November 05, 2020, 11:54:10 AM »
The best Porcupine Tree song is clearly the 40 minute uncut version of Moonloop.  :biggrin:

Damn right. Perfect for a late night drive.  But my favorite is Blackest Eyes.
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« Reply #1879 on: November 20, 2020, 07:22:51 PM »
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« Reply #1880 on: November 21, 2020, 09:19:23 AM »
I donít think Iíve ever really ranked my favorite PT songs.  Iíve been a fan since The Sky Moves Sideways, but Iíve never really given much thought to it.  PT has always been an album band for me, so pulling out individual tracks is kind of tricky.  I guess it would look something like this (and in no particular order)

Way Out Of Here
Futile
So-Called Friend
Buying New Soul
The Start of Something Beautiful
The Sky Moves Sideways
Fadeaway
Sever
Half Light
Gravity Eyelids

But I could also easily include things like:

A Smart Kid
Lips of Ashes
Where We Would Be
Strip the Soul
Anesthetize
Time Flies
Waiting (I and II)
The Sound of No-One Listening
Donít Hate Me
Dark Matter
Sleep Together
Tinto Brass
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