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« Reply #700 on: May 16, 2010, 08:59:46 AM »
Still haven't seen this movie. But something called unobtanium is pretty lame.

As lame as it may sound, isn't it just a scientific term?

EDIT: Well, here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

It's not a scientific term, it's just a placeholder name whenever you're talking about some nonexistent element. I guess it kind of makes sense that when humans did discover it they'd call it that, as if I remember it correctly the unobtanium in Avatar is a room temperatute superconducter, which is basically be a holy grail in modern physics.

That's cool. I was wondering why the hell is was supposed to cost so much.

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« Reply #701 on: May 16, 2010, 09:06:03 AM »
https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium

They never really talked about it in the movie, which is unfortunate because the fact that it's so necessary for Earth's survival very much changes the light in which the human characters are cast.

And just saw this:
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the substance found on Pandora was a stable quasi-crystal with its atoms arranged in a never-repeating but orderly pattern with fivefold symmetry. This structure was not only structurally rugged...

Yep, just bomb the shit out the place from orbit and take it.
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« Reply #702 on: May 16, 2010, 09:59:22 PM »
Unobtanium can also go to the center of the earth and back without melting.

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« Reply #703 on: May 17, 2010, 02:25:20 PM »
https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium

They never really talked about it in the movie, which is unfortunate because the fact that it's so necessary for Earth's survival very much changes the light in which the human characters are cast.

And just saw this:
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the substance found on Pandora was a stable quasi-crystal with its atoms arranged in a never-repeating but orderly pattern with fivefold symmetry. This structure was not only structurally rugged...

Yep, just bomb the shit out the place from orbit and take it.

Cameron greatly hurt the quality of the film by taking away the motivation for RDA corp. In the scriptment, there's an early scene where the Colonel and CEO talk about how more people are dying and they're running out of ammunition. Also, there's a group of scenes cut out early showing how Earth has become one giant run-down super city. Not only do we understand slightly more why Jake falls in love with the forest, but why humanity so desperately wants (maybe needs) Unobtanium. Instead of "Evil CEO wants money," a couple more sentences could have explained that Unobtainium would solve the Earth's power problems.
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« Reply #704 on: May 17, 2010, 02:28:23 PM »
https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium

They never really talked about it in the movie, which is unfortunate because the fact that it's so necessary for Earth's survival very much changes the light in which the human characters are cast.

And just saw this:
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the substance found on Pandora was a stable quasi-crystal with its atoms arranged in a never-repeating but orderly pattern with fivefold symmetry. This structure was not only structurally rugged...

Yep, just bomb the shit out the place from orbit and take it.

Cameron greatly hurt the quality of the film by taking away the motivation for RDA corp. In the scriptment, there's an early scene where the Colonel and CEO talk about how more people are dying and they're running out of ammunition. Also, there's a group of scenes cut out early showing how Earth has become one giant run-down super city. Not only do we understand slightly more why Jake falls in love with the forest, but why humanity so desperately wants (maybe needs) Unobtanium.

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« Reply #705 on: May 17, 2010, 02:30:22 PM »
https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium

They never really talked about it in the movie, which is unfortunate because the fact that it's so necessary for Earth's survival very much changes the light in which the human characters are cast.

And just saw this:
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the substance found on Pandora was a stable quasi-crystal with its atoms arranged in a never-repeating but orderly pattern with fivefold symmetry. This structure was not only structurally rugged...

Yep, just bomb the shit out the place from orbit and take it.

Cameron greatly hurt the quality of the film by taking away the motivation for RDA corp. In the scriptment, there's an early scene where the Colonel and CEO talk about how more people are dying and they're running out of ammunition. Also, there's a group of scenes cut out early showing how Earth has become one giant run-down super city. Not only do we understand slightly more why Jake falls in love with the forest, but why humanity so desperately wants (maybe needs) Unobtanium.

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« Reply #706 on: May 17, 2010, 02:31:15 PM »
Yea....but flying lizards!

Heh. And in fairness to Cameron, apparently it was unnecessary to provide motivation for Jake wanting to live on Pandora. The entire audience wanted to go to there too because it looked pretty.
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« Reply #707 on: May 17, 2010, 02:54:31 PM »
Yea....but flying lizards!

Heh. And in fairness to Cameron, apparently it was unnecessary to provide motivation for Jake wanting to live on Pandora. The entire audience wanted to go to there too because it looked pretty.

The entire movie lacked motivation for any characters. It was basically a really pretty movie with a good amount of unmotivated action. Had the movie spent more time explaining WHY the characters were they were and had us sympathize with even the worst of them, instead of just showing us as many plants and animals as possible, it would have been a lot better.

Hell, maybe this would have worked better split into two movies, one being about the motivaton, the other being about the fight.
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« Reply #708 on: May 17, 2010, 03:06:56 PM »
Yea....but flying lizards!

Heh. And in fairness to Cameron, apparently it was unnecessary to provide motivation for Jake wanting to live on Pandora. The entire audience wanted to go to there too because it looked pretty.

The entire movie lacked motivation for any characters. It was basically a really pretty movie with a good amount of unmotivated action. Had the movie spent more time explaining WHY the characters were they were and had us sympathize with even the worst of them, instead of just showing us as many plants and animals as possible, it would have been a lot better.

Hell, maybe this would have worked better split into two movies, one being about the motivaton, the other being about the fight.
I haven't seen the movie, so I can't back any opinion, but I don't think it merits any "would have worked better" scenario, considering its box office performance.
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« Reply #709 on: May 17, 2010, 03:19:22 PM »
Still Adami is right, there was hardly any explanation at all. Even though it made all that money at the box office the lack of backstory made it a really high budget popcorn flick instead of what could've been a really interesting movie. The reason it made so much money was a) it was hyped to shit and b) "omg Cameron".

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« Reply #710 on: May 17, 2010, 03:25:53 PM »
well, and the realistic CGI.

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« Reply #711 on: May 17, 2010, 03:27:23 PM »
Yea....but flying lizards!

Heh. And in fairness to Cameron, apparently it was unnecessary to provide motivation for Jake wanting to live on Pandora. The entire audience wanted to go to there too because it looked pretty.

The entire movie lacked motivation for any characters. It was basically a really pretty movie with a good amount of unmotivated action. Had the movie spent more time explaining WHY the characters were they were and had us sympathize with even the worst of them, instead of just showing us as many plants and animals as possible, it would have been a lot better.

Hell, maybe this would have worked better split into two movies, one being about the motivaton, the other being about the fight.
I haven't seen the movie, so I can't back any opinion, but I don't think it merits any "would have worked better" scenario, considering its box office performance.

How much money it makes is from people who like seeing entertaining movies. It doesn't speak to the goodness of the movie at all. Bad movies often make tons of money.

EDIT: Also, if we're gonna base how a good a movie is on how popular it is, then Titanic is the best movie ever made.
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« Reply #712 on: May 17, 2010, 03:54:24 PM »
How much money it makes is from people who like seeing entertaining movies. It doesn't speak to the goodness of the movie at all. Bad movies often make tons of money.
Are you suggesting that correlation implies causation?

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« Reply #713 on: May 17, 2010, 03:59:00 PM »
How much money it makes is from people who like seeing entertaining movies. It doesn't speak to the goodness of the movie at all. Bad movies often make tons of money.
Are you suggesting that correlation implies causation?

When did I suggest that? Guitarded implied that because the movie made tons of money, there's no reason to think it could have been better. Or something, maybe I missed his point.
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« Reply #714 on: May 17, 2010, 04:09:12 PM »
How much money it makes is from people who like seeing entertaining movies. It doesn't speak to the goodness of the movie at all. Bad movies often make tons of money.
Are you suggesting that correlation implies causation?

When did I suggest that? Guitarded implied that because the movie made tons of money, there's no reason to think it could have been better. Or something, maybe I missed his point.
It just seemed like you contradicted yourself, saying financial success does not speak to a films quality, but films that endeavour to make a lot of money are normally of lower quality. My perspective it is impossible to say there is a correlation between film quality and finanical success, it depends on each film independently.

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« Reply #715 on: May 17, 2010, 04:33:53 PM »
Oh no, you got the first part right, but not the second. I didn't say that films that try make a lot of money are of low quality. I just simply meant that a films quality can not be measured by its success.
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« Reply #716 on: May 25, 2010, 09:20:34 PM »
I am in love....




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« Reply #717 on: May 25, 2010, 09:22:12 PM »
I'm guessing if you saw the original picture you wouldn't be aroused?

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« Reply #718 on: May 25, 2010, 09:23:09 PM »
I think it's time for you to seek help Chino.
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« Reply #719 on: May 25, 2010, 09:24:57 PM »
I am in love....





I dunno about love, but get rid of the lame costume crap and I'd bang it hard.
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« Reply #720 on: May 25, 2010, 09:30:54 PM »
Mine is a picture of Matt Smith.
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« Reply #721 on: May 25, 2010, 09:34:31 PM »
https://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8295/26708601221.jpg

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« Reply #722 on: May 25, 2010, 09:37:05 PM »
Those are ridiculously huge.

That said, her face is completely enchanting. Mesmerising. They'd be too big if she weren't really hot anyway. Heck, they still almost are too big. And I'm a boobs man.

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« Reply #723 on: May 25, 2010, 09:51:49 PM »
The entire movie lacked motivation for any characters. It was basically a really pretty movie with a good amount of unmotivated action. Had the movie spent more time explaining WHY the characters were they were and had us sympathize with even the worst of them, instead of just showing us as many plants and animals as possible, it would have been a lot better.
If they'd provided some proper motivation, which really wouldn't have been that difficult, I probably wouldn't have hated this movie nearly as much as I did. Hell, done properly, it possibly could have even bumped it up all the way to 'indifferent' for me.

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« Reply #724 on: May 26, 2010, 12:52:26 AM »
https://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8295/26708601221.jpg

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« Reply #725 on: May 26, 2010, 12:58:54 AM »
Too big.

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« Reply #726 on: May 26, 2010, 01:03:59 AM »
Too big.

Yep, or close to it. I think I'm with rob on this one.
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« Reply #727 on: May 26, 2010, 04:06:36 AM »
To be honest, I'm not fussed either way.

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« Reply #728 on: May 26, 2010, 04:16:11 AM »
This thread is mildly racist. lol

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« Reply #729 on: May 26, 2010, 10:39:30 AM »
Too big.

They're not ideal, but I'd still hit it harder than the humans hit pandora.
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« Reply #730 on: May 26, 2010, 11:14:38 AM »
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« Reply #731 on: May 26, 2010, 03:17:21 PM »
Too big.

They're not ideal, but I'd still hit it harder than the humans hit pandora.

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« Reply #732 on: May 26, 2010, 03:20:18 PM »
Too big.

They're not ideal, but I'd still hit it harder than the humans hit pandora.

So, really hard for a few seconds until she pulls out a strap on?
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« Reply #733 on: May 26, 2010, 03:25:33 PM »
https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium

They never really talked about it in the movie, which is unfortunate because the fact that it's so necessary for Earth's survival very much changes the light in which the human characters are cast.

That's true. I liked District 9 better than Avatar because you could at least sense why the humans wanted the aliens out of there. It wasn't just "get the aliens out of here arghghehghgh!" There was some sort of backdrop to the story to follow.

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« Reply #734 on: May 29, 2010, 10:46:14 AM »