Author Topic: Avatar (Read 177250 times)

7thHanyou · « **Reply #1190 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:45:44 PM »

Quote from: Chino on February 07, 2012, 06:37:52 PM

Quote from: 7thHanyou on February 07, 2012, 06:21:33 PM

But here's the worst part: everyone says it's a great-looking movie, and all I see is Lisa Frank CGI vomit. Like the Star Wars prequels, it has a repulsive visual style, so any technical wizardry falls flat. What are people seeing, exactly? The world just seems shallow, full of unrealistic and unbelievable colors. I guess to get sold on it, I'd have to believe it's natural, but I never do. The whole thing looks damn fake to me, and since it's going for realism (unlike, say, a Pixar film), that's a huge problem.

What exactly was not believable or unrealistic?

The colors. The way the creatures move. The Na'vi are still uncanny valley.

Does this bring down the movie? Of course not. I think the plot, script, pacing, etc. bring down the movie. It's just that it doesn't look any more revolutionary to me than the Star Wars prequels; it's certainly not any more believable. What does it do that hadn't already been done by that point?

TioJorge · « **Reply #1191 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »

I just wanted to say that Uncanny Valley is fucking gorgeous in the Fall. Anyone who hasn't been there during said season really should check it out.
Avatar was enjoyable.

Implode · « **Reply #1192 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:47:28 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on February 07, 2012, 06:30:41 PM

Quote from: Implode on February 07, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
All anyone ever says about Avatar is that it's unoriginal. Is that really enough to say it's a god awful movie? What if we compare it to real shit like The Phantom Menace and The Last Airbender? It can't be nearly as bad. I don't remember it failing at the movie basics.

The word "unobtainium" makes me cringe almost as much as Hayden's acting.

Unobtanium has been a science fiction thing for long before Avatar.

Chino · « **Reply #1193 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:55:03 PM »

Quote from: Implode on February 07, 2012, 07:47:28 PM

Quote from: Super Dude on February 07, 2012, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Implode on February 07, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
All anyone ever says about Avatar is that it's unoriginal. Is that really enough to say it's a god awful movie? What if we compare it to real shit like The Phantom Menace and The Last Airbender? It can't be nearly as bad. I don't remember it failing at the movie basics.

The word "unobtainium" makes me cringe almost as much as Hayden's acting.

Unobtanium has been a science fiction thing for long before Avatar.

From Wikipedia

Since the late 1950s,aerospace engineers have used the term "unobtainium" when referring to unusual or costly materials, or when theoretically considering a material perfect for their needs in all respects, except that it does not exist.

orcus116 · « **Reply #1194 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:58:42 PM »

Kind of a poor choice of words on Cameron's part even if it is somewhat used. For the many of us who didn't know that fact it came off incredibly goofy.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1195 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:12:57 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on February 07, 2012, 07:58:42 PM

Kind of a poor choice of words on Cameron's part even if it is somewhat used. For the many of us who didn't know that fact it came off incredibly goofy.

This. I'd imagine the vast majority of people who readily know that word today, apart from aerospace engineers, are Avatar apologists.

Sigz · « **Reply #1196 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:37:23 PM »

Yeah, I mean I knew where the word came from so I never had an issue with it, but it was definitely a poor choice.

Chino · « **Reply #1197 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:37:08 PM »

Quote from: 7thHanyou on February 07, 2012, 06:45:44 PM

Quote from: Chino on February 07, 2012, 06:37:52 PM
Quote from: 7thHanyou on February 07, 2012, 06:21:33 PM

But here's the worst part: everyone says it's a great-looking movie, and all I see is Lisa Frank CGI vomit. Like the Star Wars prequels, it has a repulsive visual style, so any technical wizardry falls flat. What are people seeing, exactly? The world just seems shallow, full of unrealistic and unbelievable colors. I guess to get sold on it, I'd have to believe it's natural, but I never do. The whole thing looks damn fake to me, and since it's going for realism (unlike, say, a Pixar film), that's a huge problem.

What exactly was not believable or unrealistic?

The colors. The way the creatures move.

Are you describing Pandora or the Great Barrier Reef?

Gadough · « **Reply #1198 on:** February 25, 2012, 12:43:32 PM »

Chino have you seen this review?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA&feature=g-vrec&context=G28f396fRVAAAAAAAABg

Chino · « **Reply #1199 on:** March 20, 2013, 07:18:15 PM »

https://www.totalfilm.com/news/james-cameron-gives-update-on-avatar-sequels

Quote

“I'm deep into it and I'm living in Pandora right now. There is that start up torque where you feel it's coming to you. Then you build up momentum. That's when it gets fun. The characters talk and it's writing itself. I'm almost there right now. It's building fast.”

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1200 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:01:19 PM »

Still takes 3 years to shoot though

Implode · « **Reply #1201 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:22:02 AM »

More like 3 years of post production. In a movie like Avatar, there isn't really much to shoot.

BlackInk · « **Reply #1202 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:37:53 AM »

Avatar - 8.8 (Great) - 26th best movie I've seen.

Not for the storyline used countless times before, but for being as immersive as it was. This time the tech enhanced the story instead of cluttering it. Pulling this movie off impressed me and that earnes it a 8.8.

snapple · « **Reply #1203 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:45:05 AM »

Man, this movie is awful.

Implode · « **Reply #1204 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:41:54 AM »

I can see how people don't think the movie is amazing or how people don't like it. But I can't see how people say it's completely awful. To me it's just kind of there in the middle. It does nothing new while not really failing at anything either. JC plays it off like it's going to revolutionize movie making like Star Wars, but I'm sure in 30 years, it'll be forgotten.

Chino · « **Reply #1205 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:43:16 AM »

Quote from: snapple on March 21, 2013, 09:45:05 AM

Man, this movie is awful.

Your face is awful.

Quote from: Implode on March 21, 2013, 10:41:54 AM

JC plays it off like it's going to revolutionize movie making like Star Wars, but I'm sure in 30 years, it'll be forgotten.

I think you are mistaken on that one.

Implode · « **Reply #1206 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:49:18 AM »

I may very well be wrong, but in today's world where the blockbuster movie is pretty common, I just don't see it happening. What says it'll be remembered any more than Nolan's Batman series, the Avengers, Twilight, Harry Potter, etc. Sure, it might be remembered by those who were alive when it came out, but Hollywood is putting out so much right now, the market is so saturated, that no matter how good a movie is, there's no way it'll be remembered on a level akin to Star Wars years from now.

snapple · « **Reply #1207 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:57:49 AM »

Quote from: Implode on March 21, 2013, 10:41:54 AM

I can see how people don't think the movie is amazing or how people don't like it. But I can't see how people say it's completely awful. To me it's just kind of there in the middle. It does nothing new while not really failing at anything either. JC plays it off like it's going to revolutionize movie making like Star Wars, but I'm sure in 30 years, it'll be forgotten.

It felt like a "made-for-the-masses" movie. Sometimes I like those types, sometimes I don't. This time I didn't, and I had a little buyer's remorse.

Implode · « **Reply #1208 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:12:26 AM »

Fair enough. It was a made-for-the-masses movie. That's the kind of movie JC likes to make.

snapple · « **Reply #1209 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:14:48 AM »

Quote from: Implode on March 21, 2013, 11:12:26 AM

Fair enough. It was a made-for-the-masses movie. That's the kind of movie JC likes to make.

You ever see RedLetterMedia's Plinkett Review for Avatar? I have a few minor disagreements with it, but that review sums up how I felt when I walked out of the theater.

Chino · « **Reply #1210 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:20:10 AM »

I walked out of the theater ten times and felt the same every time.

snapple · « **Reply #1211 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:21:21 AM »

Quote from: Chino on March 21, 2013, 11:20:10 AM

I walked out of the theater ten times and felt the same every time.

You saw it TEN times?

Yo, let me find my doc's number for you...it's around here somewhere...

Implode · « **Reply #1212 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:22:05 AM »

Quote from: snapple on March 21, 2013, 11:14:48 AM

You ever see RedLetterMedia's Plinkett Review for Avatar? I have a few minor disagreements with it, but that review sums up how I felt when I walked out of the theater.

I'm a huge fan of RedLetterMedia. I watch all their shows! (Save for dubbed Plinkett animation nonsense lol)

Quote from: Chino on March 21, 2013, 11:20:10 AM

I walked out of the theater ten times and felt the same every time.

And that's good! I won't criticize you liking the movie. I just don't see it being remembered.

snapple · « **Reply #1213 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:23:40 AM »

Yeah, so you know how I feel about Avatar, then.

Chino · « **Reply #1214 on:** May 06, 2013, 05:57:55 PM »

Got a present in the mail today! 3D TV won't be here until Thursday or Friday though

#firstworldproblems

orcus116 · « **Reply #1215 on:** May 06, 2013, 05:59:02 PM »

Enjoy all 2 actual 3D scenes in that movie.

Chino · « **Reply #1216 on:** May 06, 2013, 05:59:54 PM »

Ummm what?

orcus116 · « **Reply #1217 on:** May 06, 2013, 06:07:55 PM »

When I saw it I could only remember very few scenes that actually had 3D depth in it. The only one that I really remember is the sleep pod chamber in the beginning.

Chino · « **Reply #1218 on:** May 06, 2013, 06:09:24 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on May 06, 2013, 06:07:55 PM

When I saw it I could only remember very few scenes that actually had 3D depth in it. The only one that I really remember is the sleep pod chamber in the beginning.

Your eyes must not work then because it's easily (with the exception of Life of Pi being on par with it) the best use of 3D to date.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1219 on:** May 06, 2013, 06:10:00 PM »

Chino would know, he's checked 300 times.

Fiery Winds · « **Reply #1220 on:** May 07, 2013, 02:45:42 AM »

Quote from: Super Dude on May 06, 2013, 06:10:00 PM

Chino would know, he's checked 300 times.

Only?

BlackInk · « **Reply #1221 on:** May 07, 2013, 04:36:54 AM »

Got the 6 disc (at least I think there's 6..) blu-ray set and loving it.

Chino · « **Reply #1222 on:** May 07, 2013, 06:19:58 AM »

Quote from: BlackInk on May 07, 2013, 04:36:54 AM

Got the 6 disc (at least I think there's 6..) blu-ray set and loving it.

I'm not aware of any 6 disc set ?!

BlackInk · « **Reply #1223 on:** May 07, 2013, 06:47:46 AM »

"Extended Collectors 6 Disc Edition"

Contains the theatrical version, an extended edition and an even more extended edition. Then there's like a ridiculous amount of bnus material and "making of" stuff. And like 40 minutes of deleted scenes (CGI notat allfinished though it's only half interesting.)

The whole thing is pretty f'ing sweet though.

Chino · « **Reply #1224 on:** May 07, 2013, 07:29:29 AM »

I have that too but it's only 3 discs....

I don't even see your edition on the official Avatar website.

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Author Topic: Avatar (Read 177250 times)